my ritteri has arrived

[M Woodhill]

alrite, got everythin ready to put the poor nemos in quarantine

if the conditions continue, i'll trap'em out tomorrow evenin

but i guess there's def still somethin wrong inside the nem

after expellin out lots of waste---now the chunks r with less purple zoos but more white mucus, fairly like the sick smokin gig---it now recovered a little bit

i guess the nem is def releasin somethin into the water when deflated and gapin. the skimmer becomes very bubbled whenever it starts to gape and then returns normal when the nem returns

 

[D-Nak]

If it's white and smoky like your gig, it's probably sperm. Usually happens because it's stressed out.

 

[M Woodhill]

If it's white and smoky like your gig, it's probably sperm. Usually happens because it's stressed out.

nono, neither of the two expelled sperm

it was mucus--easy to tell, appearin just like a sick man's sneezin nosal mucus

that gig was like a chimney, expellin those mucus out

and the nemos just digged at the mouth and took those waste away

yet this mag was even worse, mucus with purple waste in

 

[M Woodhill]

after almost 7 hours decreasin--10 am to 5 pm it recovered somewhat

i presume it takes 24 hours to stay normal and then abnormal for 6/7 hours

the circle runs every 30 hours

 

[Ostara]

Dude! Your killing me. Just leave it alone and continue with your regular maintenance. Water changes and so on. It needs to acclimate! There isn't anything in this hobby that reacts quickly to anything. The one thing I've learned from this hobby is PATIENCE!

Just leave the freaking thing alone.

This +10000.

I am not trying to be mean here, but let me reiterate what everyone else has told you: your H. magnifica looks fine. Do not move it again. Do not do anything to it. If it stresses you out this much, don't even look at the tank except to check on it twice a day until it acclimates.

Now excuse me for being blunt, but I think this also needs to be said:
Your H. magnifica was healthy when you got it and just needs to acclimate; if you do not stop harassing it, you will kill it.

There is a reason that everyone is telling you that it looks good and to leave it alone. I don't understand why you don't seem to want to listen, unless you are just panicking and can't keep your hands off of it.

Maybe pictures will help. Take a look at my H. magnifica when I received it; I made the pictures large so that you can see details.

In the bucket:

As you can see, those are its insides hanging out through its mouth and it is completely deflated. This is not unusual after they have been shipped. Experiencing some degree of gaping and deflation is normal even if you pick it up from a store because they simply do not like being uprooted and moved. Note also the chunks of waste and mucous that it was expelling in the bag. Also normal.

Now in the tank: (Keep in mind that this is the best that it looked at first, as I did not take pictures when it fully deflated and gaped open just like yours.)

Gaping mouth and all tentacles on the upper right are deflated.

Mouth still gaping. Right side tentacles re-inflated but you can see that the bottom tentacles are starting to deflate.

Mouth continues to gape. Patch of tentacles in the bottom are deflated, as well as some on the top. Most of the tentacles on the left side deflated.

Mouth gaping more. Upper right tentacles deflated again.

Mouth closing again slightly, but still gaping. Patches of tentacles on bottom and top deflated again.

Throughout the entire process it would spew chunks of waste and mucous every time the mouth gaped open like that. This is not unusual or a sign of ill-health. My only interference was to very gently suction up any waste and mucous that got stuck on it with a turkey baster.

This anemone is still acclimating and, at this very moment, just went from fully inflated to being deflated on the right side again. I expect it to be at least a week before it stops and settles in more.

I hope I didn't come across as too harsh here, but really we are just trying to help you and your magnifica. Your intentions are good, but you didn't research this species and its acclimation before buying and now are hovering over the anemone too much. Let it be, and give it a chance to acclimate. I hope seeing the pictures was helpful, and good luck. (Just don't do anything more to it. )

 

[M Woodhill]

This +10000.

I am not trying to be mean here, but let me reiterate what everyone else has told you: your H. magnifica looks fine. Do not move it again. Do not do anything to it. If it stresses you out this much, don't even look at the tank except to check on it twice a day until it acclimates.

Now excuse me for being blunt, but I think this also needs to be said:
Your H. magnifica was healthy when you got it and just needs to acclimate; if you do not stop harassing it, you will kill it.

There is a reason that everyone is telling you that it looks good and to leave it alone. I don't understand why you don't seem to want to listen, unless you are just panicking and can't keep your hands off of it.

Maybe pictures will help. Take a look at my H. magnifica when I received it; I made the pictures large so that you can see details.

In the bucket:

As you can see, those are its insides hanging out through its mouth and it is completely deflated. This is not unusual after they have been shipped. Experiencing some degree of gaping and deflation is normal even if you pick it up from a store because they simply do not like being uprooted and moved. Note also the chunks of waste and mucous that it was expelling in the bag. Also normal.

Now in the tank: (Keep in mind that this is the best that it looked at first, as I did not take pictures when it fully deflated and gaped open just like yours.)

Gaping mouth and all tentacles on the upper right are deflated.

Mouth still gaping. Right side tentacles re-inflated but you can see that the bottom tentacles are starting to deflate.

Mouth continues to gape. Patch of tentacles in the bottom are deflated, as well as some on the top. Most of the tentacles on the left side deflated.

Mouth gaping more. Upper right tentacles deflated again.

Mouth closing again slightly, but still gaping. Patches of tentacles on bottom and top deflated again.

Throughout the entire process it would spew chunks of waste and mucous every time the mouth gaped open like that. This is not unusual or a sign of ill-health. My only interference was to very gently suction up any waste and mucous that got stuck on it with a turkey baster.

This anemone is still acclimating and, at this very moment, just went from fully inflated to being deflated on the right side again. I expect it to be at least a week before it stops and settles in more.

I hope I didn't come across as too harsh here, but really we are just trying to help you and your magnifica. Your intentions are good, but you didn't research this species and its acclimation before buying and now are hovering over the anemone too much. Let it be, and give it a chance to acclimate. I hope seeing the pictures was helpful, and good luck. (Just don't do anything more to it. )

i am really not panickin

the mouth of urs is def not hurt

mine got a cut and when it closes, it looks as if it had two mouths:headwalls:

well, i'd adjusted a pump's direction so less strong waves now directs at it

seemingly it like less strong waves as well as clowns

probably there's even something as too strong wave even for a mag. tunze 6055 was kinda strong even the clowns can't swim against it

so far as now, its mouth closes the tightest ive ever seen

 

[Dukester]

i wouldnt move any more pumps, fish, rocks, lights, anything.. this nem needs to adjust to its new enviroment.. if you constantly change it.. its never going to adjust, just feed your fish and do nothing else for a few days.. i wouldnt even do a water change.

 

[OrionN]

The way I see it, a Magnifica inflates and deflates on the daily basis is a dead anemone unless the reefkeeper do something about it. M Woodhill's anemone is a dead anemone unless it stop the cycle of inflates and deflates. In M Woodhill's shoe, after 3-4 days, if the anemone continue to deflates and if it look a little worst each day instead of better, I would try to do something instead of "let it be" until it dies.

In treating the anemone, I would have the anemone in essentially ideal condition with treatment with adequate but low light, with heater and good but lowish circulation. I would not have set it up in a make shift plastic container. I would have treated the anemone in the treatment tank until it stop deflating without medication and will not move it back to the DT until it is well (or died in the treatment tank). IMO M Woodhill move the anemone back to the DT too soon in this case. Good luck

 

[M Woodhill]

The way I see it, a Magnifica inflates and deflates on the daily basis is a dead anemone unless the reefkeeper do something about it. M Woodhill's anemone is a dead anemone unless it stop the cycle of inflates and deflates. In M Woodhill's shoe, after 3-4 days, if the anemone continue to deflates and if it look a little worst each day instead of better, I would try to do something instead of "let it be" until it dies.

In treating the anemone, I would have the anemone in essentially ideal condition with treatment with adequate but low light, with heater and good but lowish circulation. I would not have set it up in a make shift plastic container. I would have treated the anemone in the treatment tank until it stop deflating without medication and will not move it back to the DT until it is well (or died in the treatment tank). IMO M Woodhill move the anemone back to the DT too soon in this case. Good luck

i agree

but this time, i'll be tryin to quarantine both the nem and nemos together. it can't be excluded that inter-infection happens between'em

however, i adjusted the pump and will be gettin the new phos reactor runnin today. since it was mentioned nem like big water movement with slow velocity, i add a nano wavebox

so i'd like to see how it responded to it. probably the previous wave was too strong and direct to it

i'm also tryin to add a salinity meter to the controler and make auto-off system pertinent to it. thus the salinity will be more stable

if there's still no improvement, i have no choice but to quarantine it again

if the mouth stays ok, i guess i'd presume it's acclimatin. but check the wounds, the mouth and some rotten tentacles, i don't guess the case is so simple. i'll be tryin to take some pictures of the rotten tentacles--i don't guess a nem reacts so badly to new environment

it's my first mag but not my first nem. i at least have two references here---independent ownership and one more gig and three more rbta co-owned by my sis and me

once i did let it be------but very unfortunately, that one becomes the only death

i don't wanna retell the entire story or make criticism but actually when i heard let it be again, i feel a little bit irritated

 

[M Woodhill]

well, i checked the record

the let-it-be rbta died in early october

while so many contributed to the immaturity of tank

less than a month, just in the middle of october, i introduced into it a healthy gig

there's no problem at all

however, i guess probably nemos digs the mouth of a nem out of good willings but meanwhile brings harm

so i'd quarantine both of'em individually to exclude inter-infection and put nemos back later

 

[Pinkskunk]

i dont want to say this but i need to say it. you are killing yourself and the anemone. you i have no pitty but the nem i do as it did not have a choice.

 

[M Woodhill]

i dont want to say this but i need to say it. you are killing yourself and the anemone. you i have no pitty but the nem i do as it did not have a choice.

so did u have any pity for the let it be rbta?

i didnt mean to be mean

 

[M Woodhill]

so did u have any pity for the let it be rbta?

i didnt mean to be mean

sendin pictures to a guy at yale veterinary school

waitin 4 the last judge

 

[BonsaiNut]

sendin pictures to a guy at yale veterinary school

waitin 4 the last judge

??? What do you expect a vet to tell you ???

 

[M Woodhill]

??? What do you expect a vet to tell you ???

what on earth happened to the mag

never guess an acclimatin mag shakes off its rotten tentacles

 

[BonsaiNut]

what on earth happened to the mag

never guess an acclimatin mag shakes off its rotten tentacles

??? sorry I think I am misunderstanding you. Were you responding to my question? Do you think a vet will know ANYTHING about sea anemones?

 

[M Woodhill]

holy crap

don't know wasup with the rock work

it fell down, sigh, the nem's destiny def dooms now

rushin home to rescue it from rocks

 

[M Woodhill]

??? sorry I think I am misunderstanding you. Were you responding to my question? Do you think a vet will know ANYTHING about sea anemones?

i presume some guys study invertebrates in the sea def know somethin about anemones

 

[M Woodhill]

holy crap, got it outa beneath the rock and sand

rearranged the rocks to make it more stable

 

[M Woodhill]

it now enters a probable state of last breath before death

usually docs use it to describe a person all of a sudden returns normal from badly sick before his ultimately passin away

the new rockwork looks much duller than the previous

but it is very stable

happily received some guys' response

accordin to some vets, i changed the pumps' direction and will be buyin one or two more

lots of *** bucks

one more lesson has been learned

when a nem fell ill, don't move it but move things around it. medication is supposed to be dosed to the entire tank

poor sps's and live rocks

yet i'm also told certain fish antibiotics depress or stress biologic filterin system but will not devastate it. correct dosage and procedure will keep those live rocks live

yet there's PITTA so far NO researchin on anemone infections--so if u wanna dose, try to dose accordin to similar fish treatment

good side effect is

certain antibiotics can also work on elimination of disgustin cyano. so when an entire dt is dosed, cyano will probably disappear after treatment

well, presumin the entire dt is in good condition with lots of expensive and exotic sps's, i'd better leave the nem there now

god bless me good luck