Aquarist007
New member
glad you posted we are both asking the same question here:smokin:
Mysterious fish deaths are more common now (Flukes)
- Thread starter cthetoy
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glad you posted we are both asking the same question here:smokin:
discotu
Discotu
I suspect that I too may be a victim of flukes and may still have them in my tank. Couples more questions...
Is there a systemic treatment for flukes? I noticed someone earlier in the thread tried soaking food with no success. anyone try this?
does anyone know for sure by what mechanism flukes are treated? I appears that FW dips and PP in the water column are the prefered method which leads me to believe that the treatment needs to directly contact the fluke.
thanks!
Is there a systemic treatment for flukes? I noticed someone earlier in the thread tried soaking food with no success. anyone try this?
does anyone know for sure by what mechanism flukes are treated? I appears that FW dips and PP in the water column are the prefered method which leads me to believe that the treatment needs to directly contact the fluke.
thanks!
cthetoy
Active member
Well here is my latest update:
I did not treat my tank with Prazipro and thought FW dipping all my fish would solve the fluke infestation. A few months ago I dipped them again and more flukes fell off. Classic symptoms were the obvious: breathing was more rapid (not super fast breathing), bacterial like infections, frayed fins, cloudy eyes and loss of appetite. Some fish had all the symptoms and some fish had few.
I lost a few more fish few weeks ago and decided my fluke infestation came back even though I did not add any more new fish. My Asfur Angel barely ate, had one cloudy eye, and frayed fins all over. This 3" Asfur had about 75 flukes when I FW dipped it!!! I decided I had to treat my entire tank with Prazipro to kill all flukes and eggs. My Asfur went to a quarantine tank with Maracyn II and a week later his cloudy eye healed, breathing was normal and eating again.
Prazipro treatment.
As instructed I performed a water change (30%) and dosed the Prazipro. The only change I made was I dosed only half of it that night and the next day dosed the other half since I did not want to shock the fish. At half dosage Im pretty sure I saw flukes fall off the fish within 15 minutes. Amazing stuff. I did not bother to confirm if they were flukes because my powerheads were on full blast since my skimmer had to be turned off. Warning: Prazipro will make you skimmer go nuts and overflow throughout the treatment.
Im on Day 4 now and the fish looks healthier and eating more. Only drawback is my tank is a little cloudy because my skimmer, ozone and carbon is off. Im going to perform a 50% water change tommorow, turn on my skimmer and run carbon and hopefully that will be the last fluke treatment I ever need.
People wonder if they could use Prazipro in their main tank. My RBTA, leather, hammer, frogspawn looked fine. Tons of PODS are still alive in my refigium. I dont have SPS my friend said he had no problems using Prazipro with his SPS tank. It might affect Xenias though from what I heard. I had to treat my main tank if eggs were on the substrate, live rocks, etc. I can not take out all the fish and leave my tank fishless for 3 weeks if I did not want to treat the main tank for flukes so I had no choice but to treat the entire tank.
I only have Angels, tangs, clowns, a Longnose, and Henichous. Almost all the Angels, butterflies were infected but the tangs were not. It is certain these fish are prone to flukes.
My bro-in-law and cousin recently purchased a Majestic Angel and a Juvi Imperator Angel from different LFS and even though they looked healthy and eating at the LFS both had flukes when they FW dipped them so flukes are still out there
I did not treat my tank with Prazipro and thought FW dipping all my fish would solve the fluke infestation. A few months ago I dipped them again and more flukes fell off. Classic symptoms were the obvious: breathing was more rapid (not super fast breathing), bacterial like infections, frayed fins, cloudy eyes and loss of appetite. Some fish had all the symptoms and some fish had few.
I lost a few more fish few weeks ago and decided my fluke infestation came back even though I did not add any more new fish. My Asfur Angel barely ate, had one cloudy eye, and frayed fins all over. This 3" Asfur had about 75 flukes when I FW dipped it!!! I decided I had to treat my entire tank with Prazipro to kill all flukes and eggs. My Asfur went to a quarantine tank with Maracyn II and a week later his cloudy eye healed, breathing was normal and eating again.
Prazipro treatment.
As instructed I performed a water change (30%) and dosed the Prazipro. The only change I made was I dosed only half of it that night and the next day dosed the other half since I did not want to shock the fish. At half dosage Im pretty sure I saw flukes fall off the fish within 15 minutes. Amazing stuff. I did not bother to confirm if they were flukes because my powerheads were on full blast since my skimmer had to be turned off. Warning: Prazipro will make you skimmer go nuts and overflow throughout the treatment.
Im on Day 4 now and the fish looks healthier and eating more. Only drawback is my tank is a little cloudy because my skimmer, ozone and carbon is off. Im going to perform a 50% water change tommorow, turn on my skimmer and run carbon and hopefully that will be the last fluke treatment I ever need.
People wonder if they could use Prazipro in their main tank. My RBTA, leather, hammer, frogspawn looked fine. Tons of PODS are still alive in my refigium. I dont have SPS my friend said he had no problems using Prazipro with his SPS tank. It might affect Xenias though from what I heard. I had to treat my main tank if eggs were on the substrate, live rocks, etc. I can not take out all the fish and leave my tank fishless for 3 weeks if I did not want to treat the main tank for flukes so I had no choice but to treat the entire tank.
I only have Angels, tangs, clowns, a Longnose, and Henichous. Almost all the Angels, butterflies were infected but the tangs were not. It is certain these fish are prone to flukes.
My bro-in-law and cousin recently purchased a Majestic Angel and a Juvi Imperator Angel from different LFS and even though they looked healthy and eating at the LFS both had flukes when they FW dipped them so flukes are still out there
LargeAngels
Premium Member
Problem is that major wholesalers get flukes and don't treat for them regularly. Thus it spreads to all they supply.
FW dips do not kill the eggs. Prazipro kills the flukes and eggs. Many times a second treatment is necessary.
FW dips do not kill the eggs. Prazipro kills the flukes and eggs. Many times a second treatment is necessary.
OceanSpray
Member
Great thread! I will never add another fish to my system
without quarantining and treating with pzp. I've been
lucky so far, relying on Live Aquaria etc. Now I know its
just been luck! Very good info here!
without quarantining and treating with pzp. I've been
lucky so far, relying on Live Aquaria etc. Now I know its
just been luck! Very good info here!
Great post. Very informative. I believe my clown fish has it. I've notice that his eye was cloudy one day and thought for sure he was a goner but it went away the next day so I thought nothing of it. I think I'm going to fresh water dip him to make sure he has flukes before I threat my whole tank.
E.J. Coral
New member
Thanks for the great post.
Flukes are still out there BTW. I bought a CBB fro my LFS. As a result of this thread, I decided to FW dip it before adding to my QT. The fish had literally hundreds of flukes.... probably the most disgusting think that i have seen in my tank. Unfortunately it passed within hours of the dip. It probably bled out.
Flukes are still out there BTW. I bought a CBB fro my LFS. As a result of this thread, I decided to FW dip it before adding to my QT. The fish had literally hundreds of flukes.... probably the most disgusting think that i have seen in my tank. Unfortunately it passed within hours of the dip. It probably bled out.
FOSELONE
THINK BLUE
question for cthetoy...i picked up a baby black tang about a week ago...he went directly into my main tank...i do have quick cure from a previous run in with ich & am just finding out about flukes & prazipro...anyway, i dont know if my black tang has ich or flukes...its a small "sore" looking thing on the side of its belly & its rubbing itself against the rocks...what do you suggest?
cthetoy
Active member
When it comes with flukes and tangs I could be very wrong but I have yet to see my tangs ever get infected with flukes when I FW dipped them. I have a blue, yellow, Powder Blue, and Naso tangs and none of them were ever infected with flukes. Maybe someone can charm in and confirm what I said is true or not.
You can try FW dip your Black Tang for 5 minutes to see if it does has flukes. If it is not flukes then the scratching could be the early stages of ich which you could treat with hypo or copper (not in your main tank). If it does have flukes then treat with Prazipro.
jnc914
Active member
Did we ever get a definitive answer as to how safe Prazi is for use when your tank is already in Hypo. I have had my tank in hypo for 3.5 weeks and the ich has cleared up nicely. However my goldflake has what appears to be a light film over a portion of its eye. It doesn't exhibit any of the other symptoms. I am wondering if it is just a secondary eye infection from the ich, but i want to dose with Prazi as a precaution. I plan on running hypo for a full 6 week period. I know TMZ previously posted a warning about dosing meds while in hypo, but I did not think it pertained to Prazi since it can be used in fresh and brackish water also......
LargeAngels
Premium Member
My assumptions is that it is safe to dose Prazipro in Hypo as it is meant for freshwater or saltwater. Only way to know for sure is testing or contacting the manufacturer.
Do a FW dip on the goldflake. That will tell you for sure if it is flukes or a possible baterial infection on the eye.
Do a FW dip on the goldflake. That will tell you for sure if it is flukes or a possible baterial infection on the eye.
Re-dosing Prazipro
Re-dosing Prazipro
After going through this entire thread I concluded that I had a fluke issue in my 75 gallon FOWLR. I dosed the recommended amount on saturday evening (1tsp per 20 gallons). The fish have stopped scratching and all other symptoms of flukes except for my angel which still has the cloudy eye (albeit much improved). How would one suggest I re-dose the Parzipro? Bottle says I can retreat if necessary but no more than every 3 to 5 days. Would I do a water change prior to re-dosing? Would I run carbon prior to re-dosing? I am concerned that there may be drug left in the tank and I would be overdosing them if I added more.
Thanks,
brian
Re-dosing Prazipro
After going through this entire thread I concluded that I had a fluke issue in my 75 gallon FOWLR. I dosed the recommended amount on saturday evening (1tsp per 20 gallons). The fish have stopped scratching and all other symptoms of flukes except for my angel which still has the cloudy eye (albeit much improved). How would one suggest I re-dose the Parzipro? Bottle says I can retreat if necessary but no more than every 3 to 5 days. Would I do a water change prior to re-dosing? Would I run carbon prior to re-dosing? I am concerned that there may be drug left in the tank and I would be overdosing them if I added more.
Thanks,
brian
