nassarius snail killed blood shrimp

kingraham

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has anyone ever had this problem i put a blood shrimp in my 120 gallon tank and an hour later there is a nassarius snail on my blood shrimp, i thought the shrimp was eating it and i tried to pull it off and it wouldnt come off, oi waited a couple more seconds then took the shrimp out and pulled the snail off and the shrimp was dead. i am really disappointed and will be taking all my nassarius snails out of the tank. let me know what you think.
 
The snail is a scavenger. It did not kill your shrimp, but was doing its clean-up job. How did you acclimate the shrimp? There are several possibilities that could have killed it, including having recently arrived at the LFS and then being put in another system soon after. Sorry to say, there just is a mortality rate for these creatures.
 
"The snail is a scavenger. It did not kill your shrimp, but was doing its clean-up job." Bingo! Yesterday I was watching a youtube video of an aquarium with an octopus. The only livestock left in the tank that hadn't yet been eaten by the creature was a shrimp and that was only because it was unable to catch the shrimp. Sounds to me like acclimation or stress or a combination therof.
 
The shrimp may have died and the snail was eating it or eating the molt. Shrimp need careful acclamation and nsw sg. Lower salinity will kill them among other things but a nasarrous snail is not one of them.
 
The shrimp may have died and the snail was eating it or eating the molt. Shrimp need careful acclamation and nsw sg. Lower salinity will kill them among other things but a nasarrous snail is not one of them.

+1

Snail just doin its job :)
 
i am really disappointed and will be taking all my nassarius snails out of the tank. let me know what you think.
I think the others are right :)

I also think it's a good idea to remove Nassarius because there should be no need for them in a properly run reef aquarium.
 
Inverts cant drink water like fish can. If salinity is off, a fish can correct itself by " drinking " more fresh water. Shrimp , snails, hermits etc can't. That's why they usually have instructions to acclimate slowly. They can't adjust to rapid change. I like nassarius snails, they stir the sand bed. Totally not necessary, but if you have ever cleaned a tank before, u have smelled the funk that rots in a sand bed. Plus they add an affordable cool factor. 2dollar snails or hermits are pleasers
 
"Every time my hermits molt I think they died lol. " Hmmm...Hermits when they outgrow their home (shell) simply leave it for a larger one.
 
I keep a few of the larger ones where I have sand. I like to watch them pop up out of the sand. I don't think they are necessary but just a few don't disrupt very much and are fun to watch. They also scavenge some bits of food here and there.


To be clear invertebrates( shrimp, mollusks, corals, crabs ,etc) can not osmoregulate. They can not control their internal specific like a fish can or you or I can by drinking or urinating or otherwise gaining or expelling fluids.
Invetebrates have some chemical internal processes which let them manage internal sg . how much of this they can do varies by organism but ovrall they can't manage much. They are generally subject to an internal sg very close to that of the water around them. If it's too high fluid diffuses out and they dehydrate. If it's too low fluid diffuses into them and they over hydrate. Either condition will kill organisms by disrupting homeostsis( chemical balances in the body) ;it's worse if the change in external salinity is sudden; hence careful acclimation helps. But it's still bad to keep them in sg other than one natural to them or close to it even if a long acclimation period is used.

Fish have an internal specific gravity of about 1.008. Fresh water fish would bloat with fluids except they urinate a lot and drink very little . Marine fish are the opposite and their kidneys have evolved to process highly concentrated urine and they drink copious amounts of water. Brackish fish are somewhere in the middle.Personally, I think it's good practice to keep fish in sgclose to their natural environs which for natural seaswater on average is about 1.026.

So all of the fish keep their internal sg at 1.008 but their internal orgnas andprocesses vary based on the environs they have evovled to thrive in.

If internal sg goes off kilter in fish inverts, humans etc homeostasis is lost ,ie, all the internal chemistry goes out of balance , internal organs malfunction and the organism dies.
 
I kinda use my mine like blood hounds..when something dies I follow the snails..they are my early warning system lol
 
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