Need help with Trachyphyllia Problems

d2mini said:
I've moved both of them to opposite sides of the tank, both of them at the very ends near the glass, under my mp60's. So little flow and the least amount of light without actually being in the shade under a rock overhang which I don't really have. Didn't make an ounce of difference, they still look exactly the same.

I just don't get what made the drastic difference in appearance and apparent health to go from the first pic in post #1 to the pic i posted in post #7.
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I don't see any reason from your pictures to think there is anything wrong health wise in your trachy. The second picture in post 1, which you say isn't your trachy anyway, would be a little bit of worry since the skeleton seems to be showing, but your follow up pics don't show that.

The difference can be from some sort of small change that happened in your tank over time that its just not as happy with as it was before. Maybe a change in salt mix even, who knows... But since it puffed up at night that is a good sign, just keep doing what your doing.
 
Reefvet said:
Again, you're just posting anecdotal experience. No research means you can't state it's fact.

I've worked in several wholesalers and in aquaculture. I never saw high calcium levels affect LPS.

So you have your experience and I have mine. I think that means it's a draw.

There's no factual evidence to support the claim.
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And so were you then, my experience is my opinion and that's what I gave. I said 'sometimes dont...' in my post, and you came outright and said here's 'not an ounce of truth in that statement'. So rather than coming out ready to flame next time watch how you say it, you sounded like a horses rear.

As for factual evidence, no there's really not a way to scientifically back it up, except that natural ocean water isn't as high as what we tend to keep or reefs anyway. So maybe some species of corals (trachys in this case) don't acclimate as well to higher-than-natural levels? I have literally seen corals come in freshly imported, be placed in a system and not liked it, but when moved to a different system the same day, they opened right up. The difference was usually Ca and Alk between the systems, and also sometimes it would be the amount of nutrients in the water, sometimes it was lighting. Can you also say nutrients and light don't have an ounce to do with it? These are living animals, we can only try our best to make em happy, there is no right or wrong.
 
Stay..your trachy looks bleached to me, what is your lighting? One of my brain corals was a rescue that had bleached out almost white due to his lighting.

My lights are 4 x96W Power compacts and I put it in relative shade. Brought it back with regular feedings.
 
Shaummy said:
Stay..your trachy looks bleached to me, what is your lighting? One of my brain corals was a rescue that had bleached out almost white due to his lighting.

My lights are 4 x96W Power compacts and I put it in relative shade. Brought it back with regular feedings.
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Hmm this might be considerably less light than what I'm giving mine but you tell me


SaltyWalter said:
Yeah chat guy looks very bleached. Post your lighting specs.
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So in the Nov 2012 pic, I was using the marineland reef capable fixture, ecoxotic stunner strips, and a couple of no name 1 watt led strips from my LFS. I learned the marineland fixture was basically a big P.O.S. so that's why I had so many extra supplemental strips (I think I about 3 strips that were 36 in. and one that was 12 in....I think only one of them was a white strip, the others were blue)

Edit: I found a picture of my old lighting setup

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/0dw0jwgw6lsmwdk/AAAgL5alaj8kAVIoThYG7gEda

Then in summer of 2013, I bought the maxspect razor. I did what I thought was a proper acclimation process(started at about 40% whites, 70% blue) and then worked my way up to near 100% on both channels for 8 hours a day. After running this setup for several months, the only thing that was really showing any growth were my euphillyias which were at the bottom of my 92 gallon corner (tank is 24 inches deep, razor is on legs about 7 inches above water line). Since I wasn't seeing results, I decided to cut back to 80% whites, 100% blue and shortly after that 73% whites, 100% blue. Around this time I also switched to 120 degree optics. All photoperiods peaked for about 8 hours with an hour or two ramp up/down.

Last week, I looked at my tank and looked at a rock of blue shrooms which has literally not sprouted one new shroom since i got it 2 years ago. So I thought what the hell, I'm gonna lower the lights even more. So currently this is my photoperiod:

2 hours ramp up from 40%/60% to 70%/100%
4 hours of 70%/100%
2 hours ramp down from 70%/100% to 40%/70%

and then both channels decrease to 0%/0% an hour later.
 
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When did the coral start loosing its color? I'm gonna guess when you had the lights running full power for 8 hours a day?

Have you noticed any regaining of color since dimming the lights? I would say your current light settings are more practical, just gonna have to do some good feeding to the trachy and get that color back.
 
SaltyWalter said:
When did the coral start loosing its color? I'm gonna guess when you had the lights running full power for 8 hours a day?

Have you noticed any regaining of color since dimming the lights? I would say your current light settings are more practical, just gonna have to do some good feeding to the trachy and get that color back.
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Ok so I wont change the lighting schedule in then.

I would say I started noticing color loss about 4 months after I first got him, so definitely before I started running the maxspect. Is it possible that I didn't have enough lighting at first and then it was too much lighting with the maxspect?

I haven't noticed much of a difference in the trachy since I dimmed the lights, but then again its only been about a week. I did notice that my hammer colonies are fully expanded now whereas before there were a couple of heads on each that seemed to always be ****ed off. Also, today I saw probably the bluest shroom I had ever seen on my mushroom rock-I had actually forgotten that they were that color when i got them. That spot in the bleached trachy pic is on the sand bed but directly under the fixture where the most PAR would be. should I try moving him off to one side? As far as feeding him, he still has extends tentacles nearly every night and I started feeding mysis every 2 or 3 days.
 
StaySalty said:
Ok so I wont change the lighting schedule in then.

I would say I started noticing color loss about 4 months after I first got him, so definitely before I started running the maxspect. Is it possible that I didn't have enough lighting at first and then it was too much lighting with the maxspect?

I haven't noticed much of a difference in the trachy since I dimmed the lights, but then again its only been about a week. I did notice that my hammer colonies are fully expanded now whereas before there were a couple of heads on each that seemed to always be ****ed off. Also, today I saw probably the bluest shroom I had ever seen on my mushroom rock-I had actually forgotten that they were that color when i got them. That spot in the bleached trachy pic is on the sand bed but directly under the fixture where the most PAR would be. should I try moving him off to one side? As far as feeding him, he still has extends tentacles nearly every night and I started feeding mysis every 2 or 3 days.
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Sounds like everything is happier currently, keep it going and do some spot feeding when you can. Use vitamins and amino acids in your food soaks, the tissues and zooanthelle algae a will appreciate it and come back nice and healthy for ya. If you feel the spot he is in is getting too much light then yeah, I would move him out to the side.
 
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