Need some help with yellow A. Echinata

[ormet]

So i received a stunning yellow echinata yesterday. Shipped overnight from Germany.

I totally forgot how sensitive they are to basting so i dipped it in FM Ultra Pest Control for 7 minutes and basted it pretty hard ... i have had AEFW twice and i am terrified to get them agin.

Anyway... it has started to RTN on random places. I have it placed shaded on the bottom. 18" tank with ATI led hybrid 2x39w over the tank. Not lots of flow where it sits, but no dead spot.

Id say 70% is healthy tissue with flourescens and some PE. 30% has RTN'd in 30 hours.

So. Drastic measures or play it cool? Stress it more by moving and try to frag some healthy bits and remove dead skeleton? Or just let it try to recover on its own ... its the million dollar question i guess.

Any advice is highly appreciated.

Pic from seller:
http://orm.nu/upload/aqua/WC/yellow_dragon.jpg

:headwallblue:

 

[chessmanmark]

Have you considered super glue over the dead skeleton?

Deep waters are more delicate to dips. Beautiful piece, I hope you can salvage it.

 

[ormet]

Nope, i have not. I would consider it in a stag or a colony where the tissue losl were more confined to one area. Like STN from the base. Not on this piece considering its shape and how patchy it RTN's

Protocoll for dipping Echinata's? or is it unnecesary .. AEFW might not attack them?

Thanks

 

[biggles]

I'd have done what you have mate, dropped it into low light and low but good flow. If the tissue at the margins of die off isn't coming away in 2-3mm long areas of tissue flapping in the current but is slower and much less 'free tissue' sloughing i'd be inclined to watch it for another 24 hours.
I hope you know what i was trying to describe Ormet, if you do decide to snip die off to stop it i would do it by holding it upside down just under the water surface and snip the bits off without removing it from the water. The less stress at the moment the better imo. I really hope it settles down for you mate

 

[ormet]

Thanks for your input biggles, if nothing else i think i know i have made the right decision to just let it sit and rest.

 

[Bello]

FWIW, my favourite caroliniana/suharsonoi (still don't know exact ID ), exhibited the same behaviour after dipping. I placed it in lowish light, and while it's been a month, and some parts are still dead, I'd say the coral has and will recover.

You've already taken the correct steps IMO :thumbsup:, but if you want, I'd gladly take it off your hands

 

[Ridgeway Swiss]

Echinata are very AEFW prone from my experience so dipping certainly was required.

Personally I'd put this in medium light and strong flow as I has always understood that increased flow can assist a stressed coral as long as it's not crazy amounts of flow that is.

With such colors it has very recently come from the reef so has been shipped at least twice on long journeys before it ended up with you, more stress for a super sensitive coral and one that tends not to ship well.

I'd be tempted to get a dremel on it if there's a decent amount of good tissue ?

 

[Moser]

I agree with Nigel,

If the stripped ares are multiple separate areas, with no hanging bits, it's likely from the basting and you might get away with it.

If there are hanging bits, it's likely from the dip and I would frag it.

These green/ yellow deep waters don't like dips. I dip for a min or two max and still you lose colour. If you dip and they go brown, they can recover colour in about a month!.

Mo

 

[bogg]

Pics please thanks

 

[ormet]

Thanks for the input everyone. It really sounds like basting related. It has lost a small amount of more tissue, mainly on the main branch near the top but seems to have stabilised.

I will try to take a pic, but the contrast between living tissue and naked skeleton is very small on this colony.

Thanks again!

 

[ormet]

a few quick pics (home with both kids today, no time for finesse)

 

[ormet]

Thanks to everyone that chimed in. It seems to be ok and is getting healthy:

 

[Piper27]

Wow! Beautiful, love how the base is orangish and the tips are yellow. Is it mari or wild? Good job, i hopeyou get her to stay that exact color!

 

[ormet]

Tanks!

It's Bali maricultured.

Tbh, I did not properly white balance this pic. The reds are somewhat exaggerated. It's somewhere between old pics and new pic

Still a nice piece and I will add a better representation in my tank thread later.

 

[jroovers]

That is a nice piece and glad to see it is doing well!

I'm no expert, but that looks like A. Caroliniana to me though?

 

[ormet]

Its purchased named as Echinata. I like the way Echinata grows better then caroliniana .. but its still a nice coral whatever species

thanks for the heads up.

 

[jroovers]

Its purchased named as Echinata. I like the way Echinata grows better then caroliniana .. but its still a nice coral whatever species

thanks for the heads up.

Yes, I agree it is a nice coral either way. I have a yellow caroliniana, nice coral, slow grower though.

I'm not even sure what a true echinata looks like... I have a Hawkins echinata, but of course it is not actually an echinata.

 

[ormet]

I have the hawkins "echinata" (Turaki) as well. I did score a true Echinata the other week and got it identified by dvanacker so here you can see what a true echinata looks like:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2401472

And yes, they don't really look alike growth wise ... also the true aussie one has great PE all day and night. My yellow and hawkins only have PE during lights out.

Got a pic of your yellow caroliniana?

 

[trueblackpercula]

any updates on this stunning piece?

 

[ZON]

for me is a caroliniana absolutely not a echinata..