New H. Magnifica

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On month update: So far it has only deflated once and that was probably because the piece of scallop that I fed was probably to big. Has not deflated since.

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Surprising to me that they are doing so well literally on top of one another... :D Do you know if they are clones?
 
Randy its only one anemone, I'm not sure what the person had it in before but I think it was weakened because it is just starting to lift itself up more now. The left side is pretty much up all the time but the right is not and it folds a little bit like you see above. I have been feeding it every 3 days either a piece of krill or scallop.
 
82ndengineer said:
Jpmagyar I had my mag under a radion for a year with no issues as well as my bta's. It can be done.
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Do you have photographic evidence? Honestly, I think it can be done, but like corals I believe color is an indicator of health and I do not believe colors of any coral or anemone under LEDs look good. They are struggling to survive because LED spectral output is too narrow.

Look at my anemone and compare it to pictures of anemones under LEDs. Which is healthier, and why would you not want the healthiest? I have had this anemone for over a decade and it has created more than 7 clones; I'm afraid I just don't believe that will happen under LEDs. I'm not even sure why LED lovers are so adamant about loving LEDs. You save a few dollars on electricity, but what else do you get. I guess it's a matter of opinion because I genuinely dislike the washed out look of LED lit tanks.

At the end of the day this is just a hobby, and we should all pursue the ideals we most enjoy as individuals, but I'm genuinely concerned that the latest generation of aquarists may be swept up in the LED fad without considering the trade offs.


Joe :beer:

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Don't have any pics as I'm not much of a picture taker. Sorry. But I will agree that it may not have been living to it's full potential as now that it is under halides is when it split, not during its year long adventure under the radion. I ultimately sold my radion and wen't back to halides for much the same reasons you dislike led's. But the radion with T5 combo I ran at the end worked very well. T5 and led would be the only way I would run led's again. Beautiful mag bye the way.
 
JPMagyar said:
I will apologize online in six months if I am wrong, but you can not keep an anemone alive under LEDs. H. Mags are incredibly hardy when healthy, but my experience so far is that it will lose color slowly and ultimately die under LEDs.

Any LED.

Again if I am wrong and you keep him alive for 6 months I promise I will apologize and admit I was wrong over and over.

In fact, in an attempt to negate my hypothesis I will recommend feeding large chunks of salmon with the skin on as often as the anemone will take it.


Joe in NY
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I'm sorry but I have to tell you that you're wrong. My 10 year old gigantea has been under AI Sols for over 2 years and is bigger than ever. You can get a good look at it in this vid.
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfr4jAxrzgE
 
I have switched most of my anemone holding systems to LEDS.

I have kept mags,mertens,gigantea, haddoni bta LTA and malu and crispa under LEDS very happily.

I have mertens now that went from 6 inches to 15 inches under a single Radion pendent.
 
reefkeeper2 said:
I'm sorry but I have to tell you that you're wrong. My 10 year old gigantea has been under AI Sols for over 2 years and is bigger than ever. You can get a good look at it in this vid.
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfr4jAxrzgE
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Hey Paul,

Congrats on the write up in AA. I spent a long time mulling over all your videos and pictures. Obviously you are a dedicated aquarist for sure, and the spectacular beauty of your tank shows it!!


BUT,


I'm gonna disagree slightly with your analysis of LEDs and point out that your tank is in a sunroom where it gets tons of indirect, ambient light and that is HUGE. I'm not saying AI LEDs can't get the job done, I'm just saying I haven't seen hard evidence yet that SPS and anemones actually "thrive" under pure LEDs especially with regards to coloration. I think I mentioned above that my buddy Jason is working on a customers tank that has 13 AIs and a large H. Mag, but it's color is nothing like the color of Jason's huge H.Mag (which started as a clone of mine) or my mag, and that customer's anemone actually came out of Jason's tank originally so we know for sure what it CAN look like. Like I said, time may prove me wrong, but so far I'm not seeing any convincing evidence regarding LEDs.

BUT,

I want to say again, I know this is a hobby, and we should all be doing what makes us enjoy our own reefs best and if that's LEDs then that's awesome, I just want to put a second opinion out there for folks just starting out with a new anemone . . . and that's all it is "just one guy's opinion" :D





Joe :beer:
 
WOW Paul, that tank is unreal. It makes me realize how little I know about this hobby. However I do know I have had a green bta under led's for over 2 years that has split twice and now I have three. All have trippled in size after splitting. They aren't the most beautiful green ever, but I would say they are thriving. :)
 
JPMagyar said:
Hey Paul,

Congrats on the write up in AA. I spent a long time mulling over all your videos and pictures. Obviously you are a dedicated aquarist for sure, and the spectacular beauty of your tank shows it!!


BUT,


I'm gonna disagree slightly with your analysis of LEDs and point out that your tank is in a sunroom where it gets tons of indirect, ambient light and that is HUGE. I'm not saying AI LEDs can't get the job done, I'm just saying I haven't seen hard evidence yet that SPS and anemones actually "thrive" under pure LEDs especially with regards to coloration. I think I mentioned above that my buddy Jason is working on a customers tank that has 13 AIs and a large H. Mag, but it's color is nothing like the color of Jason's huge H.Mag (which started as a clone of mine) or my mag, and that customer's anemone actually came out of Jason's tank originally so we know for sure what it CAN look like. Like I said, time may prove me wrong, but so far I'm not seeing any convincing evidence regarding LEDs.

BUT,

I want to say again, I know this is a hobby, and we should all be doing what makes us enjoy our own reefs best and if that's LEDs then that's awesome, I just want to put a second opinion out there for folks just starting out with a new anemone . . . and that's all it is "just one guy's opinion" :D





Joe :beer:
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My gigantea gets no direct sun at all. All the light is from LED. The entire front of the tank never gets any direct sunlight because of the direction it faces. Many people think the sucess of my tank is due to the sunlight. Remember, I had halides for 6 years. Go look at the TOTM pics from Dec 08. NO comparison. Believe it or not the light from the sun is miniscule. I wish I got more sunlight, but at my latitude and with the tinting on the sunroom glass IMHO it just isn't a major factor. Just this past week I lost power during the blizzard for 3 days. If you could see the tank with just the ambient light, you would see what I'm saying.
I don't doubt that the color of the mag could be different under the LEDs though. The mag I have is looking great. It looks the same in color as it did at the shop where I bought it. I hope it colors up a bit.
I am looking into upgrading my Sols to Vegas. If I do it will be interesting to see what happens color-wise.
 
Sorry its been hectic, working 13 hours and then dealing with a 23mth old having pnemonia in the hospital for 4 days. I just took this picture this morning, only the blues were on so I used a flash for the picture. A few things have changed since my last update. I sold my rainbow BTA, in order to get it out I split the rock, that rock was one that was below where the Mag was. So I moved the rock to the left side of the tank and procedeed to remove the BTA. I noticed that the Mag was standing taller than I have seen it so I left the rock there for now, its been in that spot for a week now and have had no issues with it. My only concern is that its closer to a powerhead than I would like. Waiting to hear back on some quotes for a 36"Lx30"Wx18"H tanks to give it more space and not having to worry about it touching the walls of the tank or powerhead.

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