Newbie Corner Feedback Thread

Hi Kjac
[welcome]

Yes indeed, it is all part of Reef Central's exciting Economic Stimulus Package that went into effect on April Fool's Day. :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14751938#post14751938 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by WaterKeeper
Hi Kjac
<img src="/images/welcome.gif" width="500" height="62"><br><b><i><big><big>To Reef Central</b></i></big></big>

Yes indeed, it is all part of Reef Central's exciting Economic Stimulus Package that went into effect on April Fool's Day. :D

I figure. Why shut down the newb forum? Traffic for RC willl fall to the ground. Now you dont want something like that happen, now do ya? Nice April Fool's joke :D
 
Is RC really going to have a test like you discribed??? Sounds alittle harsh. I feel many of your aritcles and this site are what made me the reefkeeper i have become. And still every day learn something new. Its made to sound that only marine biologist/chemist or light smart person...(? Da??) will be allowed to join RC?

Im sorry but i have know idea What is the scientific name of the Giant Squid, What is the molecular weight of fulvic acid and Who is Abu Muhammad Jabir ibn Aflah and why is he important in calculating lux output in a sphere.

And i suppose the RC mission statement will change?

Our Mission
Reef Central is an online community where quality information about the marine and reef aquarium hobby can be exchanged among all levels of hobbyist from {{{{beginner to advanced}}}. Our goal is to help educate people about the saltwater aquarium hobby and enhance awareness of the fragility of coral reefs around the world. We hope you will join us and that you find this site useful.

I understand the stupid Questions, but what if they can't ask as much and just act. Concerned RC member.

And RIP TOTM. 90% of time only thing i read on RK mag.
 
Yes, it is a sad. sad day but economic constraints force us to take unprecedented actions. However, only a fool would expect us to actually end the TOTM feature. :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14756425#post14756425 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by WaterKeeper
Anyone seen this month's <b><a href="http://reefkeeping.com" target="_blank">Reefkeeping Magazine</a></b>?

yes--finally you are putting a novice tank on the front page. A tank most of us could attempt with some level of success.
Month after month of viewing outstanding sps coral tanks that are simply out of the range of affordablility of most of us.:rolleyes:
:lol: :rollface: :lol:
 
I actually put this on another thread but I think I should have put it here. Or maybe no where :D

There is one more thing I would like to add, well maybe two.
Everything you learn here or anywhere else about this hobby is not necessarilly true. It may be true today, but tomorrow it may change. People have been keeping fish for 4,000 years, even the Romans kept fish. They kept them to eat but they still had to keep them alive. They had refrigerators but electricity was not invented,(or actually discovered) for 3,900 more years.

But salt water aquarium keeping is in it's infancy. It is only 40 years old. Thats half of Waterkeeper's life.
SCUBA diving is only just over 60 years old.
We have gone through UG filters, wet drys, roataing spray bars, Berlin systems, Jaubert systems, natural systems, semi natural systems, un natural systems, solar systems,
rotating wet dry drums, canisters, diatoms, (cough, cough) DSBs, SSBs starboard and bare bottoms, incandescent, flourescent, power compact, metal halide and now we are getting into LEDs.
We have dosed, iodine, calcium, magnesium and iron.
All of these things had and have a place in the hobby and they all have problems. It just depends on what problems you can avoid by using these systems for the purpose we intend to use them for.
Wet dry systems for example are fantastic to eliminate ammonia so in a fish only where there is large carnivores, it is (IMO) the best system. There is the problem of nitrates and we can incorporate another system for that. Of course that system may be a maintenance nightmare so something has to be added to counteract that problem.
There is not one system that will do everything and maintain itself.
There are also vast amounts of conjecture, un truths, ignorance and just plain guessing.
Don't ask a question about hair algae and expect a simple "cure" like add a sea hare. There is no cure because it is not a disease.
We are trying to "cure" a natural healthy (albeit) annoyance.
It grows on every healthy coral reef in the world and it will also grow in our tanks for reasons that are not entirely clear.
No, it is not because there is nitrate, phosphate, DOC or the Tooth Fairy in our tanks. These things (except for that Fairy) will make it grow greener and faster but if you have a tank with fish in it that you feed, there will be plenty of nutrients to grow algae. It grows inside the corals also and without it our corals would croak.
It can be "controlled" other ways.

You will read an awful lot about ich. The lifecycle has been studied to death. Something in the study of it's lifecycle is totally wrong. I don't care what professor you learned about ich from, there is something missing. (you can tell them I said so, just spell my name correctly, it's W A T E R K E E P E R
It certainly does not attack every fish it comes in to contact with and no one knows why. There are guesses about immune systems and the paracites interbreeding too many times, or the fishes health in relation to stress etc.

There are diseases like HLLE which attacks the majority of tangs and angels if you keep them long enough. That is caused by
stray electricity, stress, vitamin A deficiency, a bacteria, a virus, or all of those things. No one knows.


So, while you are trying to learn all you can, inject some common sence and realize that this stuff is not cut and dry. There are very few hard answers. That does not mean to stop reading, quite the contrary, read all you can, because that is the one and only way to sort out the truths from the almost truths, or todays truths.
I really hate to say this, but listen to Waterkeeper. He has been doing this almost as long as me. Don't listen too much to me because I am much more radical that he is which is why I almost never give advice to Noobs.

Have a great day. Or for those that are Christian, a great Palm Sunday
 
Paul was the Emperor Nero' tank maintenance man so he knows. He is also good with diseases as he lived through the black death and once gave Typhoid Mary a ride in his horsedrawn carriage. :D

Good post Paul.
 
Actually, while I was the maintenance guy to Nero, the Sumarians were the first to keep fish a while before the Romans.
How do they know that?
They found one of those tiny sunken chests and a copy of "Reefs Magazine" in with some artifacts.
 
Yes there was, It worked then, and it works now.
Thats why the Hittites were considered the best reef keepers in ancient civilization. You never heard of one of their tanks crashing, have you?

Now they are the Northern Hittite aquarium society.
They have meetings on the third full moon of every month :dance:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14764572#post14764572 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by WaterKeeper
Probably an article in it about the Hittites developing the UGF. :D

if Paul was there then don't you think it would have been a RUGF:rolleyes: :lol:
 
ya reading the article about closing the newbie forum and the column, I thought it was the dumbest thing you could do. Now you leave all the power to the 90% of lps owners who are morons and will do anything for a buck. Now there will be even more death of fish and corals. People will keep listening to the idiots at pet stores and will keep failing. If having people fail and kill animals just so they will "expire" from the hobby and we can make the hobby only for the "experienced" then those people who think that way are not experienced at all, don't give a **** about the animals rather just their own tanks.
 
excuse my tone but I feel strongly, because I was once those neive newbies who believed my aqua clear 110 would be good enough filtration on my 90 gallon with only 20 lbs of rock. Fish kept on dieing and I hard headed like I am kept buying more and trying again. I killed god knows how many until I finally found a good place to learn what I needed to do. Its called Reef Central.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14779042#post14779042 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chago09
ya reading the article about closing the newbie forum and the column, I thought it was the dumbest thing you could do. Now you leave all the power to the 90% of lps owners who are morons and will do anything for a buck. Now there will be even more death of fish and corals. People will keep listening to the idiots at pet stores and will keep failing. If having people fail and kill animals just so they will "expire" from the hobby and we can make the hobby only for the "experienced" then those people who think that way are not experienced at all, don't give a **** about the animals rather just their own tanks.

I would hope you meant LFS owners and not LPS owners;) :lol:
Most of them don't consider themselves morons:lol:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14779042#post14779042 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chago09
ya reading the article about closing the newbie forum and the column, I thought it was the dumbest thing you could do.
Sorry but we just don't need anymore Newbies. They keep coming and coming and there is just no end to it. :rolleyes:

If you believe what Waterkeeper says on April 1st then you are really a NEWBIE!!!

Don't worry Chargo I will be around for quite some time to make every Newbies life miserable. :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14780902#post14780902 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by WaterKeeper
Sorry but we just don't need anymore Newbies. They keep coming and coming and there is just no end to it. :rolleyes:

If you believe what Waterkeeper says on April 1st then you are really a NEWBIE!!!

Don't worry Chargo I will be around for quite some time to make every Newbies life miserable. :D

Do you think he gets it now Tom:rolleyes: :D
 
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