(No) Allelopathic interaction between Gigantea and Magnifica

[OrionN]

I know for a long while now that Gigantea and Haddoni can touch each other with out problem. Now I know for sure that Gigantea and Magnifica can live side by side without problem either.
My Africa Magnifica and my Gigantea have been growing touching without problem. My clown pair use all three anemones above as home and as happy as they can be. In addition tow the two anemones, there is a third Magnifica from IndoPacific just adjacent to the Africa Magnifica

 

[D-Nak]

Nice photo! Thanks for sharing. I've been thinking about combining a couple of gigantea with a magnifica. Nice to know that they can touch without and problems.

I wonder if there is a close similarity in chemical cues which allows the clowns to travel from one nem species to the next without having to establish each nem's chemical signature.

 

[Breadman03]

Beautiful!

 

[OrionN]

Two clown pairs in my tank. One on one side of the huge T. gigas (26 inches shell) One pair, black snowflakes, use Gigantea and Haddoni as hosts. The other pair, Picasso percula, use Magnifica and Gigantea as hosts.
Thanks guys

 

[ThRoewer]

How do gigs go along with malus?
I found my malu to be a very nice and hardy anemone. It has attached itself to a rock and never moved ever since, despite several drastic changes in flow. I also found it to be very easy in its light demand - it seems to thrive under a Philips Daylight LED bulb (5000K, 75W equivalent) from Home Depot.
Also it seems my Solomon onyx percula are not loosing their black I it.

 

[OrionN]

I do not know. I don't purposely put these anemones together. Just when they come together and I don't see problem, then I just leave them be.
If you have them touching without problem, please let us know. Also let us know if there is problem with them.

 

[ThRoewer]

I don't intend to have them touching. I actually want to use some H. malu and H. aurora for my anemone crab and shrimp pairs. Since both of these anemone species are not natural hosts for A. percula I hope they will leave them for the crabs and shrimp when provided with a gigantea.

But since they are relatively easy to keep I may also give my other percula pairs malus.

 

[CoralsAddiction]

Nice anemones. How long have they been next to each other?

 

[CoralsAddiction]

I suppose one could definitively make the same argument with Gigs and BTAs touching each other. Here's a video I shot yesterday at Waikiki Aquarium of the largest gig I've ever seen surrounded by huge BTAs.
http://youtu.be/KG9GM27x3fk
And a pic

 

[OrionN]

Nice anemones. How long have they been next to each other?

At least several months. I got the magnifica from Petco. I put it right there after QT him. With feeding he got larger. The gigantea also got larger and moved a little and they touch. I have to pull out my record but I think 3 months. Growing a lot since they have been together

 

[enchelycore808]

Nice gig! Is that a rainbow?

 

[enchelycore808]

Nice gig! Is that a rainbow?

 

[OrionN]

He is mostly light green, but there are other colors. I have had nicer rainbow Gigantea

 

[elegance coral]

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This was my gig and mag a loooong time ago. However, I do believe that bad things can happen between these two anemones. I don't believe their nematocysts are triggered to fire when the anemones come into contact with each other, but the venom is deadly. At least the magnifica venom is deadly to gigantea. I had my gigantea for almost five and a half years. Here's a link to when I first got it. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1781941&highlight=help Here's a video after it recovered form shipping stress.
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Recently, I tried to do a favor for a friend. He had tried multiple H. mag's and failed, so I brought one home to nurse it through all the shipping stress for him. It was late and I was tired, so I placed the mag on one end of my 8' tank. My gig and power heads are on the other end. When I woke up, most of my ~30 fish were dead or dying, and the mag was in a power head. The gig seemed fine, but with erratically swimming fish everywhere, he had a feast. Within 24 hours he started going down hill. I removed all the dead fish right away, and started large water changes, added new carbon, and clean filters. Nothing seemed to help. Within a week, he was dead. The only thing that makes sense to me is that he was poisoned by all the toxic fish he ate. The fish that were loaded with H. magnifica venom.

 

[OrionN]

Neat picture EC. How long have been in your care and how long have they touch each other?

I find that a lot of information's on reefkeeping that we "know" often colored with subjective and often wrong interpretation of what reefers sees in his/her aquariums. A lot of time reefers inject their own human emotions and thoughts into the behavior of the animals in their aquariums.
It is really difficult for a novice reefer to decipher facts from fictions when he is bombarded with information.

 

[elegance coral]

The gig, almost five and a half years. The mag, for probably ~ two years. I've changed my systems and livestock quite a bit in the past few years. I didn't leave the gig and mag next to each other like that for long. I didn't notice any adverse effects but didn't want to take any chances.

 

[elegance coral]

I suppose one could definitively make the same argument with Gigs and BTAs touching each other. Here's a video I shot yesterday at Waikiki Aquarium of the largest gig I've ever seen surrounded by huge BTAs.
http://youtu.be/KG9GM27x3fk
And a pic

I'm not so sure about that. In the pic and video there seems to be a "no mans land' right between the anemones. It doesn't appear that the anemones actually come into contact with each other very often.

Here's a video that Gig'em posted in another thread. Note that there are several spots that would be prime H. magnifica habitat, but they're occupied by Acropora. The mag's live right beside these Acropora, but give them their space. Seems to be the same thing the anemones in your video are doing. Not actually commingling, but giving each other their space. Which is common between many species on a coral reef.
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[OrionN]

Of the three anemones in my picture above, the Gigantea and the outer Magnifica have upper hands. They are not jammed in place like the Magnifica in the middle. I did not remove them, but I do feed the middle Magnifica with food. My thinking is that he does not have enough room to expand out like the other two, so does not have enough (or as much) calorie intake as the other two anemones. Feeding him will give that boost to keep him doing as well or a little better than the other two.
My tank is huge, moving anemones around is rarely easy. I often let them be and try to compensate for decrease light available for some anemone by increase feeding, and/or provide space in term of addition of some rock to the appropriate area so that they can move out to the open.

 

[CoralsAddiction]

I might try this gig/mag combo in limited space tank

 

[pfan151]

At least several months. I got the magnifica from Petco. I put it right there after QT him. With feeding he got larger. The gigantea also got larger and moved a little and they touch. I have to pull out my record but I think 3 months. Growing a lot since they have been together

Wow, you have a much better petco than me