OK! Enough chat...Starting a 1000g+ Reef
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jnarowe
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Just got back my results from AquariumWaterTesting.com:
Tank Water:
Water Test Summary
Ammonia (NH3-4) ........................Good ......................................... 0.008
Nitrite (NO2)................................Good ......................................... 0.003
Nitrate (NO3)...............................Good .............................................0.2
Phosphate (PO4) ..........................Good ........................................... 0.03
Silica (SiO2-3) .............................Good .............................................0.5
Potassium (K) ...............................Low............................................. 278
Calcium (Ca)................................Good ............................................ 380
Boron (B) ....................................Good .............................................3.9
Molybdenum (Mo)......................... High..............................................0.2
Strontium (Sr) .............................Good ........................................... 10.2
Magnesium (Mg) ..........................Good .......................................... 1294
Iodine (I¯)...................................Good ........................................... 0.03
Copper (Cu++) ............................Good ........................................... 0.01
Alkalinity (meq/L)..........................Low............................................ 2.04
I knew the alk would be low because my probe re-calibration threw everything off and then my LiterMeter had stopped dosing. Same for the Ca. I keep it at 425 ppm. I was surprised to see the PO4 as high as it is.
Both Mg and Ca are noted quite a bit lower than my test results show. Copper was one of my major concerns and that seems to be OK.
Couple notes from their analysis:
Potassium (K)
Natural Seawater Value: 390 mg/L
Acceptable Range: 350 to 450 mg/L
Tested: 278 mg/L
(LOW) Your potassium level is too low. We recommend performing a partial water change,
and possibly adding a commercial additive containing potassium. Potassium is rapidly
depleted from aquarium water by several plant and animal metabolic processes.
Maintenance of appropriate levels is critical for cellular respiration, as well as being an
important nutrient for coral zooxanthellae and macro algae.
Molybdenum (Mo)
Natural Seawater Value: 0.01 mg/L
Acceptable Range: 0.0 to 0.12 mg/L
Tested: 0.2 mg/L
(HIGH) Your molybdenum level is too high. Molybdenum is found in many common
additives and at highly elevated levels in most salt mixes and so a vast majority of reef
tanks demonstrate a level 10 to 50 times higher than natural levels. 0.12 mg/L is the upper
toxicity limit for Molybdenum, the point at which negative effects can begin to manifest
themselves. You should suspend the use of any additives containing molybdenum. If your
level is significantly higher than acceptable you may benefit from a partial water change to
reduce this level, though your salt mix may be a contributor to the elevated level itself.
Molybdenum is important for the biological processes of bacteria, and may be of some
benefit to corals as well. High levels of molybdenum are known to encourage blooms of
slime algae or cyanobacteria.
Hmmmmm....Since I don't use any additives, this could be a bit of a problem.
Tank Water:
Water Test Summary
Ammonia (NH3-4) ........................Good ......................................... 0.008
Nitrite (NO2)................................Good ......................................... 0.003
Nitrate (NO3)...............................Good .............................................0.2
Phosphate (PO4) ..........................Good ........................................... 0.03
Silica (SiO2-3) .............................Good .............................................0.5
Potassium (K) ...............................Low............................................. 278
Calcium (Ca)................................Good ............................................ 380
Boron (B) ....................................Good .............................................3.9
Molybdenum (Mo)......................... High..............................................0.2
Strontium (Sr) .............................Good ........................................... 10.2
Magnesium (Mg) ..........................Good .......................................... 1294
Iodine (I¯)...................................Good ........................................... 0.03
Copper (Cu++) ............................Good ........................................... 0.01
Alkalinity (meq/L)..........................Low............................................ 2.04
I knew the alk would be low because my probe re-calibration threw everything off and then my LiterMeter had stopped dosing. Same for the Ca. I keep it at 425 ppm. I was surprised to see the PO4 as high as it is.
Both Mg and Ca are noted quite a bit lower than my test results show. Copper was one of my major concerns and that seems to be OK.
Couple notes from their analysis:
Potassium (K)
Natural Seawater Value: 390 mg/L
Acceptable Range: 350 to 450 mg/L
Tested: 278 mg/L
(LOW) Your potassium level is too low. We recommend performing a partial water change,
and possibly adding a commercial additive containing potassium. Potassium is rapidly
depleted from aquarium water by several plant and animal metabolic processes.
Maintenance of appropriate levels is critical for cellular respiration, as well as being an
important nutrient for coral zooxanthellae and macro algae.
Molybdenum (Mo)
Natural Seawater Value: 0.01 mg/L
Acceptable Range: 0.0 to 0.12 mg/L
Tested: 0.2 mg/L
(HIGH) Your molybdenum level is too high. Molybdenum is found in many common
additives and at highly elevated levels in most salt mixes and so a vast majority of reef
tanks demonstrate a level 10 to 50 times higher than natural levels. 0.12 mg/L is the upper
toxicity limit for Molybdenum, the point at which negative effects can begin to manifest
themselves. You should suspend the use of any additives containing molybdenum. If your
level is significantly higher than acceptable you may benefit from a partial water change to
reduce this level, though your salt mix may be a contributor to the elevated level itself.
Molybdenum is important for the biological processes of bacteria, and may be of some
benefit to corals as well. High levels of molybdenum are known to encourage blooms of
slime algae or cyanobacteria.
Hmmmmm....Since I don't use any additives, this could be a bit of a problem.
jnarowe
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RO/DI Water:
Water Test Summary
Ammonia (NH3-4) ........................Good ......................................... 0.004
Nitrite (NO2)................................Good ......................................... 0.002
Nitrate (NO3)...............................Good .............................................0.3
Phosphate (PO4) ..........................Good ........................................... 0.03
Silica (SiO2-3) .............................Good .............................................0.5
Potassium (K) ...............................Low.................................................0
Calcium (Ca).................................Low.................................................0
Boron (B) .....................................Low..............................................1.6
Molybdenum (Mo).........................Good .............................................0.0
Strontium (Sr) ..............................Low..............................................0.0
Magnesium (Mg) ...........................Low............................................. 139
Iodine (I¯)....................................Low............................................ 0.02
Copper (Cu++) ............................Good ........................................... 0.00
Alkalinity (meq/L)..........................Low............................................ 0.41
OK...so this is interesting eh? Even though I run my RO/DI through dual resins AFTER I get a zero TDS reading, it still has a lot of crap in it. Is it possible to have .03 PO4 in the tank and the RO/DI? Seems like the tank should be higher if I have that much in the purified water.
And how does that much magnesium get through? I am interested in comments!
Water Test Summary
Ammonia (NH3-4) ........................Good ......................................... 0.004
Nitrite (NO2)................................Good ......................................... 0.002
Nitrate (NO3)...............................Good .............................................0.3
Phosphate (PO4) ..........................Good ........................................... 0.03
Silica (SiO2-3) .............................Good .............................................0.5
Potassium (K) ...............................Low.................................................0
Calcium (Ca).................................Low.................................................0
Boron (B) .....................................Low..............................................1.6
Molybdenum (Mo).........................Good .............................................0.0
Strontium (Sr) ..............................Low..............................................0.0
Magnesium (Mg) ...........................Low............................................. 139
Iodine (I¯)....................................Low............................................ 0.02
Copper (Cu++) ............................Good ........................................... 0.00
Alkalinity (meq/L)..........................Low............................................ 0.41
OK...so this is interesting eh? Even though I run my RO/DI through dual resins AFTER I get a zero TDS reading, it still has a lot of crap in it. Is it possible to have .03 PO4 in the tank and the RO/DI? Seems like the tank should be higher if I have that much in the purified water.
And how does that much magnesium get through? I am interested in comments!
chris wright
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From what i've read, TDS to measure water quality is about as usefull as using DKH to measure alk. Both measurements are NOT accurate . Your alk is a little low as you know, but I know reefers who have beautiful tanks at that level. Any lower would cause great concern though.
Nice FTS
And I agree with Hop, get a mattress. You canhave a nap when you give your corals a nap :lol:
Should have known better!
kmacartney
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I enjoyed a few good brews from Magic Hat brewing over the weekend. I recommend Circus Boy.
jnarowe
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so unless soething goes wrong equipment-wise, tomorrow is the day we will be draining most of the water out of the tank and drilling out the damaged area.
I decided to do this because no deal has finalized with Eco-Tech and I do not want to wait any longer. It would be foolish to just let this thing bust open, especially since I have put so much into it.
And I keep seeing posts like this:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=11688766#post11688766
So we'll see what happens. Hopefully it won't broadcast across the acrylic!
I decided to do this because no deal has finalized with Eco-Tech and I do not want to wait any longer. It would be foolish to just let this thing bust open, especially since I have put so much into it.
And I keep seeing posts like this:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=11688766#post11688766
So we'll see what happens. Hopefully it won't broadcast across the acrylic!
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chris wright
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Good luck with the repairs.
Are you going to continue to use the vortech's in the meantime?
Are you going to continue to use the vortech's in the meantime?
sherm71tank
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I'm glad you brought that up. I have serious concerns with the proposed repair procedure. Drilling into an already seriously crazed area just seems like a disaster waiting to happen. What you say? :eek1:
Any acrylic experts please (!PLEASE!) feel free to chime in!
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jnarowe
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I have to use the Vortechs until I swap out my tank. In the meantime I may bring in some Tunze but maybe just for testing the wave tank design.
And Sherman...don't get me all freaked out. The method we are going to use is exactly what James at Envision recommended. I know it's going to look like hell, but wouldn't that be better than worrying about a blow-out?
And Sherman...don't get me all freaked out. The method we are going to use is exactly what James at Envision recommended. I know it's going to look like hell, but wouldn't that be better than worrying about a blow-out?
sherm71tank
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Jonathan, I don't know James from Osama. Regardless of what country he is from. I have worked with acrylic from time to time (mostly skimmers 1/2" wall thickness or less) and IME if you start out with a problem (crazing in your case) it almost NEVER gets better with the proposed cure (drilling yadayada). I think it wise to get some input before we start the project.
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