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Your GF does NOT matter in this situation..leave her far and away out of it.
I managed to win custody of a child that was not mine biologically because both the parents were acting like fools,it's fortunate for one of the parents that we were close.Get your stuff together,before your son resents you.Time really is of the essence in these situations.I know these times are tough and I really do wish you the best but you son must come FIRST(close second to GF doesn't count)
 
Salt E...

You have a lot on your plate. The people here have given great advices and here is my advice to you. Get your priorities straight. You need to decide what is more important. (Your child, your car, your hobby, your GF, your finances.) Of course your child should be the first thing on top of your list. I know it’s tough to deal with an Ex, but you two have to work things out with the finance on the baby and visitation before you should start anything with your current GF. If you have been dealing with this issue the whole time you’ve been with her, it is not healthy for a relationship.

Your ex should be blessed that you would want to be in your son’s life. However the case is that you want to spend a little more time with him and she is not willing to let you see him if she is not willing to compromise then of course take it to court.
 
Boy this brings back memories from the early 80's and I'm glad it's over for me.
This X vs the GF can ruin your life. You can't keep both happy so remember that before you take another plunge.

I still love my second wife of 24 years but if I had it to do all over again I would have stayed single until my kid was at least 18. This coming from somebody that had full custody and my ex was at my mercy for visitation. But then if I'd done that I'd not have 2 more kids that think of ME as their Dad.

Good luck, it's gonna be tougher than you ever though possible.

SteveU
 
ok...lets get something straight....out of 1+years together my CURRENT GF has only met my son ONCE....one time...UNO.... and that was the day she went with me to drop my son off... my X does not have an issue with my son being Around my GF... she has an issue that i brought my current gf to her pad. thats it... my GF has only spend 4 hours with my son out of 1 year of being with his father... that may seem hard to swollow, but its true...

the MAIN ISSUE IS THIS... now that i am back in a position to give the evil #$%^& money in order to spend time with my son.... SHE WILL NOT ACCEPT IT.... so now that money obviously isn't going to help me see my son..what will? understand....this girl hasn't worked 1 DAY IN HER LIFE and drives a top of the line 2006 Benz truck. every year she has a new Benz or Beamer.... she wants the money cause she knows that if i cant come up with it... she has leverage against me to make my life terribly hard when it comes to my son... she does not need MY money...she only wants what i cant give.... and the moment i can "PAY UP" she finds a reason to not accept...


so now please give advice based on what you know...

1) My GF has only been around the child ONCE (4hours total) withen 1 year.

2) I offer the dragon $300 and she turns it down cause she prefers human sacrifice over cash.
 
Ok,
I'd say save the $300 to go towards a less than 5% down payment on a good attorney. Mine cost $5,000 in 1982 after the $600 version failed me.

I'd really be interested in hearing the rest of the story from another viewpoint.


SteveU
 
Please see comments, below:

i haven't finished reading all of the comments as of yet but let me get started in replying... my CURRENT gf and i have been together STRONGLY for a little over a year now and talk about marrige OFTEN...

Which is good.

while my sons mother on the other hand seems to be heavy in the dating sceen, Myspace temp dating apparently...but that is her choice...

Which is IRRELEVANT. Keep your focus, don't diverty energies into tangents where there can be no return. As you said, her choice. If it's not harming your son, leave it be.

all the money i could give her is spent on rent-a-cars and gas and she knows this...

Still doesn't change the fact that she's not getting the money she thinks she needs (more on this, below).

i will not move back close to her cause she is CRAZY and has made attempts to have my car stolen and has damaged my vehicle on many occasions (yes i have police reports)...

OK, so she's a bit psychotic. I'll refrain from gender bashing here...

She gets money when i have enough to spare, but she does get money, just NOT AS MUCH AS SHE MAY WANT

Uh, SPARE? This is a responsibility just like rent or your electric bill. Whether you agree with it or not, you need to make that an extremely high priority.

THIS GIRL IS SPOILED ROTTON AND NEEDS NO CASH....

Uh, again, it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to pay some form of support for your son. Whether you think she needs it or not is irrelevant. As tough as that is to swallow, that's the truth. And it's also important to note that you need to be able to provide an example that you've acted in good faith. Excuses and good faith rarely go hand in hand.

her brother is the TOP Account Executive for Country Wide Home Loans IN THE NATION and makes $2+ MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND GIVES THEM EVERYTHING THEY WANT and NEED...

Your point being? Look - she is not his responsibility. Neither is your son. It doesn't matter if her last name is Buffet or Gates - you're the father. As unfair as you think that might be, that's the reality of it and you need to quit fighting it, accept it, and deal with it.

i understand that it is no one elses job to take care of my son...

Agreed

but you know what...im not asking for coustody..im asking to be a father.... also...dont get it twisted...she is a Great Mom.... but she is a PSYCO ^%$*&^

Not sure what to say there. As long as the child is being cared for, I'm not sure how relevant that is.

as well on the same token. when i say that i cant provide much...i mean she gets what i have... buying fish and everything else are gifts from my GF...i dont spend a $ on it... seriously not a penny... she pays for everything... dont believe me...ask ANYONE who saw me at RAP... she is in Dentristy and can afford my expensive hobbies...which luckly in this case have turned into HER HOBBY as well...

Seems to me you have some very good reasons to be happy... Why not funnel some of that energy into dealing with this situation?

BUT i will not allow her to support my son, he is not her responcibility in any case even though she does provide sometimes AGAINST MY WILL if his mother is being that stupid. if it wasnt for my GF now, i would be in such a bind...she helps with EVERYTHING including with rent and my car AND my son on top of that....

If you ever get tired of her, send her my way.

In all seriousness, I'm about that way with my wife. I've given her the world on a silver platter, but it ain't enough. My self esteem has taken a beating over the years, however even through all that, I still think I'm a good husband, provider and father, and believe that my wife is lucky to have me. What she seems to show you is more than just financial, it appears to be a general kindness and compassion - something sorely missing in todays world IMO.

also let me say that when my car IS working and not being damaged by the Psyco...

Make sure to bring up those police reports during your divorce proceedings. Not sure how much it will help, however it is something worth mentioning.

i am a Sr. Loan Officer in the Mortgage business and work down in San Diego, in the process of transfering up here... I cant live in PALMDALE and do the work i do cause the split is $#!T and i make NO CASH...so i travel a long way for a shiny quarter, and when i am getting paid...SHE GETS BANK. wage garnishment is out of the question...i am SELF EMPLOYED and file 1099.... i make what i want when i want... if i wanted to downsize while im in the office during the court proceedings and make it look like i make $600 a month...that can be done...

"Hello. I'm your wife's attorney. Thank you for providing me with such valuable information. I appreciate that you did it in a PUBLIC FORUM for all to see. I also appreciate you posting what appears to be a physical threat to her. These days, that might even add up to a terrorist threat..."

You need to KNOCK THAT OFF!

Venting is one thing. Not thinking and sticking your foot in your mouth PUBLICLY is another.

Seriously. Knock it off. I know this is a hard situation, but it would appear your actions are totally based on emotion and without thought.


since my car has been acting up, i have been @ a horrible disadvantage here...WHEN I WORK...she gets HER CUT and she makes sure of it...

You need an attorney. Plain and simple.

what i think that some of you are thinking that i have an issue, like i dont want to pay, but i just want to see my son...WRONG... i WANT to go to court...i WANT to have a set ammount to pay each month... and i ALSO WANT TO SEE MY SON WITHOUT HAVING TO JUMP THROUGH HER LOOP HOLES WHEN EVER SHE IS ON HER RAG*!...

Although I can appreciate your feelings, frankly I was a bit offended by your "rag" remark. Why don't YOU try going through a menstrual cycle sometime? I hear it's a real hoot.

At any rate, you need an attorney, at least at first. Negotiate support payment amounts as well as visitation. Then you have a legal leg to stand on. Warning, though: if she has access to as many funds as you say she does, I'm pretty confident that she would have no issues at all breaking you - in every way - through litigation. Your best approach is to not be aggressive and give in a bit here and there. Don't be so stubborn. If you basically try to let things go, perhaps she will be a bit less vindictive and lose interest in making things difficult for you. After all, if she's not pressing your buttons, what fun is that?


the reason i consider myself to not always been the best father is mostly cause early in his life i felt trapped into having him and wanted nothing to do with him... the whole first year of his life i didnt help much at all...so i stay hard on myself. but alot has changed.OBVIOUSLY*!

Unfortunately, I would imagine being trapped like that is NOT uncommon. However, as you've discovered, your son had nothing to do with it. As you have no doubt learned, kids are like sponges when it comes to love. And they give it just as freely... There may have been many bad things about your marriage, however you at least have your son. Count your blessings. It was not all for naught.

I also forgot to mention one very important thing.. 2 days ago i called her to speak to my son and to find out when i can come and pick the baby up again... i also told her i have $300 cash to give her... she told me "You can keep your fu*#!N cash... i hope you enjoyed the time you spent with your son cause that is the last time you will see him!"...

Three words: GET AN ATTORNEY.

as well as telling me that she is back dating her High School sweet heart...like i care... i told her i dont care about her personal life...my only concern is my son... then she said...,"dont worry about him, a real man is taking care of him..." LMAO...like i care... i honestly dont give a $#!T. she is obviously still not over the fact that her and I are still not together, which she has made COUNTLESS attempts to split up my GF and I including threating her over the phone, in person, and on voice mails..., talks trash about my GF and gets mad that my GF has no responce to her childish ways....

Huh. You say she tries to push your girlfriends buttons and gets mad when she can't? Hmm... Sounds... Vaguely... Familiar...

i just want to spend time with my son... and the moment i offer to pay her and i can show that i am trying, she just trys to make it more difficult by not giving me a way out :mad2: i am not going to get rid of my GF / soon to be Fiancee' to make this _____ happy....

Again, she's a keeper.

Life DOES go on after a divorce, I'm sure. But you need to approach this LOGICALLY and leave your emotions out of it. I know, it's an emotional subject, but step back, take a breath, and look at the facts.

None of us (that I'm aware of, at least) are attorneys, so obviously, YMMV. However, again, you need to find an attorney. Make your points short and sweet. Don't get into how there's a ton of name calling and head games. Talk about things of relevance. Attorneys hate it when you waste their time. Although they get paid by the hour, they always have something better to do.

I've considered divorce myself recently, and have an appointment with an attorney just to see where I'm at. So I'm no stranger to some of the ins and outs of it. However, I'm not just gonna say "lets get a divorce!" without having an idea of the ramifications. My situation is also a bit different than yours in that I'm the one with "all the money" (that's LEFT).

This is only my point of view of your situation. I hope it is of some benefit to you.

Now does anyone know where I can get some yellow jawfish?

:)
 
kernelangus...thank you...i needed that...serious...for your reward...there are 5 HEALTHY yellow jawfish at Pacific reef in Carson...

for the record...my X and I were never married... children were had out of wedlock.
 
Sharkdude...thank you for the number...i will call today...

i just want to thank everyone for there advice...most of it is what i really dont want to hear, but i am strong enough to listen carefully and understand. if anyone else has anything to say... im all eyes and ears.

My X and how she is....


during my 5 year relationship with my X we were on and off many times...umm about 4 times withen this 5 years. on and off meaning that we would split up, I would ATTEMPT to go my seperate way... Every girl i met and would start the "Getting to know" process (1 girl each time we split )with i would soon lose soon after. not because i have a issue with not knowing what women want....but BECAUSE my Psyco X Gf would stalk these girls...show up at there house...call them and threatin them relintlessly... show up at there jobs...call there jobs enough to get them fired...run up on them and pull there hair and start fist fights... walk into crowded 5 Star restraunts during Valentines Day and start screaming at these women to stay away from her man... start arguements with me while im with them IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MALL...i really dont think i need to continue... if you need more examples...let me know... please.

im sure your wondering..."if thats how she is...why would you go back to her EVER?!"
here is the answer to that... i figgured for a long time that the only way for me to have a normal life, would be as long as she (the X) is happy HAVING ME...OWNING ME*!...i can somewhere find happieness withen that... so we would try and try again...

why me and my son were not close his early years...


before we had Hunter... we had another child... his name was Kyler... he was born in December 2002 and died February 2003 from SIDS... withen the same month of Feb. she JUST SO HAPPENED to get pregnant WHILE she was on birth controll when she kept trying to talk me into having another child...I was clearly against it... we both took the death of our first child pretty hard. but i knew i was not ready to have another child and she knew this... i was scared to death and didnt want to lose another kid... thats why i didnt want Hunter...cause i was scared i would lose him the same way and didn't want to build an attachment with another child...she was clearly trying to have this child (Hunter) to replace the child we have just lost.


back on topic... My X hates my GF because, out of 1 year of trying...she cant scare her away...which normally she would have successfully done this withen the first 2-3 months... suprisingly...my X is matture enough to not restrict her son from seeing his father because he has a GF... My X prides herself that she seems to have the working knowlage of a Detective...able to find information about who ever im dating, and make there life hell till i come running back... Even when my CURRENT GF changes her number...withen 1 or 2 months...my X will come up with a way to get it FROM CINGULAR... so the ONE TIME when one of my GF's has ANY INFORMATION on HER...(like knowing where she lives) it drives her CRAZY...:p for once she is not the person that knows everything and the other girl knows nothing...that is why she has a prob with me bring my GF while dropping off my son... not because she dont want her around our child...
 
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Nicole, you sound like Dr Laura. That said, this is entirely inappropriate for a reef forum. As an attorney and if you regquire legal assistance, then call a lawyer.
 
"Even when my CURRENT GF changes her number...withen 1 or 2 months...my X will come up with a way to get it FROM CINGULAR... "

Put passwords on your accounts. Specifically state that you do not want ANY information about your account given to 3rd parties unless compelled to do so via subpoena.

The EFF (EFF.ORG - great organization!) filed a lawsuit on behalf of AT&T customers because of the breach of all that customer info. In speaking with their lead counsel weekend before last I got the impression that a lot of the providers are tightening things up even more now.

I'd bet you could ask them about this and they'd give you their opinion.

Not that it'll add up to much, but it's something...

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7997399#post7997399 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kernelangus
"Even when my CURRENT GF changes her number...withen 1 or 2 months...my X will come up with a way to get it FROM CINGULAR... "

Put passwords on your accounts. Specifically state that you do not want ANY information about your account given to 3rd parties unless compelled to do so via subpoena.

The EFF (EFF.ORG - great organization!) filed a lawsuit on behalf of AT&T customers because of the breach of all that customer info. In speaking with their lead counsel weekend before last I got the impression that a lot of the providers are tightening things up even more now.

I'd bet you could ask them about this and they'd give you their opinion.

Not that it'll add up to much, but it's something...

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the funny thing about this is.... THIS SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING... i should not have to worry about passwords (which were ALREADY in place WHEN she got the info)...(other information she has gained on my GF are...Drivers License #...License plate #'s...home address...familys address IN NEBRASKA...HOME phone numbers...my GF's Brother and Sisters FULL NAMES) she is just psyco... and its not fair... Before the problem was " Why dont you want to be apart of your sons life*!".... now its " You cant be apart of his life*!" now that i am trying... and have been for the past 1 1/2 years... something isn't right here... ~sigh
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7997399#post7997399 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kernelangus
The EFF (EFF.ORG - great organization!) filed a lawsuit on behalf of AT&T customers because of the breach of all that customer info. In speaking with their lead counsel weekend before last I got the impression that a lot of the providers are tightening things up even more now.


... and it got thrown out of court almost instantly.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7997387#post7997387 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by noschmo
Nicole, you sound like Dr Laura. That said, this is entirely inappropriate for a reef forum. As an attorney and if you regquire legal assistance, then call a lawyer.


thanks for your help dude...

look i came on asking for help PRIMARILY to see if anyone could assist in REFERING a lawyer in which they know or have delt with... im not too stupid to pick up a phone book... but in all reguargs dear sir...My 1 chance to be a father is at stake...and im not really into trusting any 1/2 @$$ Tom, Dick or Jane with my case... im looking for someone that comes with a personall reference... since i dont know anyone PERSONALLY that has been through these ups and downs....i turn to a place where i spend a peice of my free time with this entirely inappropriate topic. if this thread is just not to your liking...let me know and i will kindly bow out. (less then likely)...cause all i read in your comment is...



<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7997387#post7997387 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by noschmo
Hi, my name is noschmo, I have nothing helpfull to say at all .
 
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