Ozone use
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mr.wilson
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10142518#post10142518 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by REEFER714
Here is some info on the PRO240D reactor
http://www.marinetechnical.com/page6.html
They don't have the instruction manual available yet. But seem like it going to work well. I have trust and confident in MTC PRO products. I called them earlier and here is the price tag on each
PRO240D $350
SR7 $125
CAF $65
I know the price is a little high but we are talking about quality product. cast acrylic tube 1/4"wall are very expensive. I don't mind the cost, i care more about the health of my live stock. I will purchase the setup one i get enough money. I will use the eheim to feed the reactor
You can get a hyperbaric reactor like the Aqua-Medic 1000 for under $100.00.
I assume the SR7 and CAF are carbon filters? Once again, that's pretty steep.
Tony Romano
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Is there a packaged ozone reactor that is good?
freddie40
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Alright, I am adding Ozone tomorrow to my Tunze 9010 skimmer. I am wondering about running carbon. The best way for me to run the carbon is through section D of my fuge (see attached diagram). Although this means that the ozone will pass though the fuge where a fish and 3 snails reside I am wondering if this is alright, or should I try to run carbon earlier.
Thanks for your advice,
Dave
Thanks for your advice,
Dave
This is where I got rechargeable beads. One bag would fill almost two red sea dryer.
http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33_61&products_id=209
Alright, I am adding Ozone tomorrow to my Tunze 9010 skimmer. I am wondering about running carbon. The best way for me to run the carbon is through section D of my fuge (see attached diagram). Although this means that the ozone will pass though the fuge where a fish and 3 snails reside I am wondering if this is alright, or should I try to run carbon earlier.
I would definitely pass the water over carbon before getting to any organisms.
I would definitely pass the water over carbon before getting to any organisms.
faded1004
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goign to try out ozone finally, had the parts and now building a sump so want to make some plans...
going to use my ev240 as a reactor (setup external to sump). the air will be covered with the collection cup carbon... i am trying to think of an easy way to pass the water outlet through carbon...
#1, i am thinking may be trying to retunr water to the sump through a filter sock full of carbon?
#2, setup a small return area and throw in a large bag of carbon and hope it catches all the bad stuff?
#3, ask for pictures and copy someone's setup... : )
going to use my ev240 as a reactor (setup external to sump). the air will be covered with the collection cup carbon... i am trying to think of an easy way to pass the water outlet through carbon...
#1, i am thinking may be trying to retunr water to the sump through a filter sock full of carbon?
#2, setup a small return area and throw in a large bag of carbon and hope it catches all the bad stuff?
#3, ask for pictures and copy someone's setup... : )
I use 3 tightly nested IO salt buckets. The water is added into the second one through a bulkhead through the bottom of the first. Many small holes in the bottom of the top bucket allow air to enter and pass through carbon in it and out to the air.
The wet carbon is in 2 big mesh bags in the second bucket. The water hits the top and runs through the bags, and then through many small holes in the bottom of that second bucket into the third.
The third bucket has a bulkhead through the bottom that directs the water into my sump.
IME, this is cheap and works nearly perfectly, and better than any other method of air and water treatment I can think of.
The wet carbon is in 2 big mesh bags in the second bucket. The water hits the top and runs through the bags, and then through many small holes in the bottom of that second bucket into the third.
The third bucket has a bulkhead through the bottom that directs the water into my sump.
IME, this is cheap and works nearly perfectly, and better than any other method of air and water treatment I can think of.
faded1004
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13750180#post13750180 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Randy Holmes-Farley
I use 3 tightly nested IO salt buckets. The water is added into the second one through a bulkhead through the bottom of the first. Many small holes in the bottom of the top bucket allow air to enter and pass through carbon in it and out to the air.
The wet carbon is in 2 big mesh bags in the second bucket. The water hits the top and runs through the bags, and then through many small holes in the bottom of that second bucket into the third.
The third bucket has a bulkhead through the bottom that directs the water into my sump.
IME, this is cheap and works nearly perfectly, and better than any other method of air and water treatment I can think of.
i am going to look for a few identical buckets or similar... do you think the 50g salt mix buckets will handle 1000gph? as mentioned i have an aquac ev 240...
1000 gph? No.
I don't think that is an optimal plan for ozone, as your contact time will be incredibly short. I treat my water for about 45 seconds with a 90 gph flow.
I don't think that is an optimal plan for ozone, as your contact time will be incredibly short. I treat my water for about 45 seconds with a 90 gph flow.
has any one thought about using this CO2 chamber http://www.championlighting.com/product.php?productid=17309&cat=349&page=1
as a ozone chamber? Long contact time and very very cheap so if its not ozone safe, then replacing it yearly wouldnt be a heartbreak.
as a ozone chamber? Long contact time and very very cheap so if its not ozone safe, then replacing it yearly wouldnt be a heartbreak.
Luis A M
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Randy,are you using a skimmer or some other kind of ozone reactor?Cause you have water plus air coming in your carbon contactor...<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13750180#post13750180 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Randy Holmes-Farley
I use 3 tightly nested IO salt buckets. The water is added into the second one through a bulkhead through the bottom of the first. Many small holes in the bottom of the top bucket allow air to enter and pass through carbon in it and out to the air.
The wet carbon is in 2 big mesh bags in the second bucket. The water hits the top and runs through the bags, and then through many small holes in the bottom of that second bucket into the third.
The third bucket has a bulkhead through the bottom that directs the water into my sump.
IME, this is cheap and works nearly perfectly, and better than any other method of air and water treatment I can think of.
In a skimmer,air escapes from the top and must be processed there...
Another question,I am setting an O3 system with a Red Sea Plus and a RS Berlin skimmer,hooked to a needle Octopus pump.I don´t know if O3 treated air must be forced to the pump air intake with an air pump,or just let it be aspirated by the pump.I should measure air volumes in either way,but that´s not easy
Randy,are you using a skimmer or some other kind of ozone reactor?Cause you have water plus air coming in your carbon contactor...
In a skimmer,air escapes from the top and must be processed there...
I use the DIY tubing reactor for ozone that I describe in the second article below. The nested buckets allow air to escape from the top, but using it with a skimmer may be a bit tricky due to the larger amount of air than the ozone/air source itself for a normal reactor. That's another reason I'm not a fan of using skimmers for ozone. :
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 1: Chemistry and Biochemistry
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-03/rhf/index.php
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 2: Equipment and Safety
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 3: Changes in a Reef Aquarium upon Initiating Ozone
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-05/rhf/index.php
Another question,I am setting an O3 system with a Red Sea Plus and a RS Berlin skimmer,hooked to a needle Octopus pump.I don´t know if O3 treated air must be forced to the pump air intake with an air pump,or just let it be aspirated by the pump.I should measure air volumes in either way,but that´s not easy
If the venturi effect is strong enough, you might not need a pump, but I expect the ozone generator itself will be a substantial air block on the air flow, and a pump is usually necessary.
In a skimmer,air escapes from the top and must be processed there...
I use the DIY tubing reactor for ozone that I describe in the second article below. The nested buckets allow air to escape from the top, but using it with a skimmer may be a bit tricky due to the larger amount of air than the ozone/air source itself for a normal reactor. That's another reason I'm not a fan of using skimmers for ozone. :
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 1: Chemistry and Biochemistry
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-03/rhf/index.php
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 2: Equipment and Safety
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 3: Changes in a Reef Aquarium upon Initiating Ozone
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-05/rhf/index.php
Another question,I am setting an O3 system with a Red Sea Plus and a RS Berlin skimmer,hooked to a needle Octopus pump.I don´t know if O3 treated air must be forced to the pump air intake with an air pump,or just let it be aspirated by the pump.I should measure air volumes in either way,but that´s not easy
If the venturi effect is strong enough, you might not need a pump, but I expect the ozone generator itself will be a substantial air block on the air flow, and a pump is usually necessary.
Luis A M
Premium Member
I set the O3 system working.The Venturi funnel was removed because I am using a 1,000 L/hr turbine ("needle"propeller) pump.In these pumps air is sucked at the water intake and worked into a very fine mix,without a significant decrease of water flow.
Connecting the air intake to the "Red Sea"ozonizer and silica beads cartridge did not produce any obvious restriction of air flow.But when I pumped air into the system with an air pump,mixing of air/water ceased completely,with the air escaping thru the pump intake.So this kind of pumps have a strong enough suction power and don´t accept forced air.
Another interesting fact:While I was running the Red Sea skimmer without ozone,absolutely no foam was produced.This didn´t surprise me,as the system is skimmed with a large Aqua C.After all,the Red Sea was intended only as an O3 contact chamber.But few minutes after feeding it with ozone,it began producing a dark dense skimmate.Probing that O3 enhances the skimming function.
