Pacific Sun Kore 5th dosing Fan Club

[doktorfisch]

I arrived yesterday late and my main concern was to stop the annoying continuous beep. And when I saw the full container my priority was to check the KH in the tank, did not care much about the kore. I only remember the display rotating messages, and the continuous beep was cleared only when I reset the container capacity to 5 liters in the software

After I set now the containers to 0 liters there are many non sense messages like 26 days left that probably are derived from the assumption that the container has 6500ml. It reminds me to the 99 celsius that my Pacific sun lamp is reporting everytime I connect. I find this way of operation very cumbersome and confusing, by default you see what is left in your container. This is what the rest of dosing pumps do. No need for this complication in my opinion, or at least do not display the misleading messages about the days left. It could be an option, but to set this way of operation as default makes you to connect via bt to the kore every time you refill and this causes extra problems, like probably it happened in this case.

Do you keep internally a log of errors if I send you the binary? What can cause that kind of alarm? Two of the containers were downloaded normally but not the KH (murphy's attack apparently)

I have firmware 1.6b that I uploaded when I bought it a couple of months ago and I see 1.6c in your web. What are the differences?

Regards

 

[truepercs]

All just wanted to give you guys an update...

I was working to schedule a remote session that was during working times for the support folks. Immediately after sending the log in information Tomasz sent me an email on taking a look at the issue (NOW). So this was not during normal business hours for him.

After investigation of the bluetooth and a short video of the doser it was determined that the plug in power supply has failed. The doser is technically out of warranty, I will purchase a power source and will report back to Tomasz. I want to thank both Przemek and Tomasz for looking into this. Hopefully this will get me going again.



-Ed

 

[PacSun Service]

@doktorfisch - please make memory backup and send .mbf file at service@pacific-sun.eu. We will check Your settings on our doser.

Best regards
Pacific Sun Service.

 

[doktorfisch]

Thanks for the offer. I have however modified the settings since the problem. I plan to leave the containers at 0 untouched. Do you think does it stil make sense to send you the binary?

I am very often away and with this doser it is difficult to ask my neighbor to modify the settings in case I see with the webcam that the container level remains constant. It has been very bad luck because I was 3 weeks away before Xmas and I monitored the container level with the webcam. During Xmas I stopped monitoring it. It seems that the corals are recovering OK, but it will take a few days till I raise it slowly to 7

May be I will temporarily install an individual doser in parallel for the KH

 

[andrek787]

You technically can change settings on your doser remotely, as long as you have a PC that can connect to Kore 5th while you are away. You can use a service like logmein.com to remotely log in to that computer, and use Kore 5th software to change the settings, just as if you were at home.


Przemek, I have a technical question. I have the DC AWC kit, but the standard DC pumps cant deliver water far enough. Is it possible to wire up a low power diaphram pump in place of the dc pump? What is the max voltage and current the Kore 5th can supply to those AWC pumps?

 

[doktorfisch]

I can change remotely, but that is risky. In my opinion all these new lamps, dosing pumps and other gadgets relying on external computers, bluetooth connections, internet links, etc are very vulnerable.

I bought this dosing pumps trying to get something better than the chinese ones, but I find they are not so reliable due to the software. The hardware is OK but the software is complicated and relies on an external computer, bt connection and so on.

I have detected that there was a time with multiple dosing of channel 2 and 3 at 7:00. Channel 2 dosed for a few seconds but did not complete the 62 expected ml, then channel 3 took over and it was OK. I tried with channel 1 and 2 and it worked fine. The dosing that failed was for times that the doser derives from the initial time and the number of intervals. It is something I do not like, I cannot choose when to dose multiple times a channel that is a basic thing. If I want to dose a channel only over day or night or to make a test it is not possible.

Anyway I have swapped the containers of channel 2 and 3 for the case that there is an issue with channel 2 that had the KH. I have also changed the dosing times to avoid common dosing times of various channels. But it is difficult to debug if it is a sw or hw problem. In the chinese doser it would be clearly a hw issue and I would return it. In this case it is not clear.

Anyway I appreciate the work and support of the Pacific Sun guys, but IMHO there is nothing more reliable than a built in display and keys.

 

[serenity]

Just so I understand correctly. Once I set the settings up via laptop and disconnect I'm good right. I don't need to keep it connect to my laptop right? All of my settings will be programmed?

 

[Spliffen]

Just so I understand correctly. Once I set the settings up via laptop and disconnect I'm good right. I don't need to keep it connect to my laptop right? All of my settings will be programmed?

Set the settings , save , then disconnect.
If you want to be sure connect again and press read setting (for whatever you changed) and control .

 

[serenity]

Set the settings , save , then disconnect.
If you want to be sure connect again and press read setting (for whatever you changed) and control .

Have many people had issues with it dosing correctly? I am reading story after story about people are upset with software. If I have no issues connecting it to my mac, which I did not, connected right away. I was able to setup the dosing, etc. without any issues at all, should I be concerned with the unit itself or are people overall happy with it. It seems like GHL and others have issues of their own, and if the major issue is connection (which I have ZERO issue with), then maybe I am lucky and just need to go with it?


Thanks

 

[andrek787]

I can change remotely, but that is risky. In my opinion all these new lamps, dosing pumps and other gadgets relying on external computers, bluetooth connections, internet links, etc are very vulnerable.

I bought this dosing pumps trying to get something better than the chinese ones, but I find they are not so reliable due to the software. The hardware is OK but the software is complicated and relies on an external computer, bt connection and so on.

I have detected that there was a time with multiple dosing of channel 2 and 3 at 7:00. Channel 2 dosed for a few seconds but did not complete the 62 expected ml, then channel 3 took over and it was OK. I tried with channel 1 and 2 and it worked fine. The dosing that failed was for times that the doser derives from the initial time and the number of intervals. It is something I do not like, I cannot choose when to dose multiple times a channel that is a basic thing. If I want to dose a channel only over day or night or to make a test it is not possible.

Anyway I have swapped the containers of channel 2 and 3 for the case that there is an issue with channel 2 that had the KH. I have also changed the dosing times to avoid common dosing times of various channels. But it is difficult to debug if it is a sw or hw problem. In the chinese doser it would be clearly a hw issue and I would return it. In this case it is not clear.

Anyway I appreciate the work and support of the Pacific Sun guys, but IMHO there is nothing more reliable than a built in display and keys.

You should definitely not schedule two pumps to dose simultaneously. If you really want to make sure that the pump doses what it is suppose to over the course of the day or week, get a set of larger plastic graduated cylinders. Fill them with supplements to max mark and dose from them. JOg the values down at the end of each day. You will be able to see exactly how much liquid was dosed by each pump and if the pump flow rate drifts.

 

[andrek787]

Have many people had issues with it dosing correctly? I am reading story after story about people are upset with software. If I have no issues connecting it to my mac, which I did not, connected right away. I was able to setup the dosing, etc. without any issues at all, should I be concerned with the unit itself or are people overall happy with it. It seems like GHL and others have issues of their own, and if the major issue is connection (which I have ZERO issue with), then maybe I am lucky and just need to go with it?


Thanks

I have had my Kore 5th for 2 years. The dosing functionality has been flawless from the beginning. As long as you keep up with maintenance and regularly check/adjust calibration, you should not have any issues.

 

[serenity]

I have had my Kore 5th for 2 years. The dosing functionality has been flawless from the beginning. As long as you keep up with maintenance and regularly check/adjust calibration, you should not have any issues.

That is exactly what I wanted to hear!! Thank you sir!


A little side note/story from today.

A huge thank you to Salty Supply out of Florida. I wanted to order a couple spare Kore 5th pump heads, 2 Kore 5th magnetic stirrers, and some extra magnets for stirring.

I got on chat with him this morning, he let me know he was out of stock on the pump heads and they have some coming. I mentioned I was having issues with 1 of them, and he said you know what, I am going to send you 2 from my demo unit (used them for only a few minutes, so basically brand new) FREE of charge.. WOW is all I can say. I have been in this hobby for far longer than I care to admit, and when companies go out of their way like this, sure makes you feel good. And know that I will be shopping with them again soon! I wanted Pacific Sun to know they have an amazing partner here in the USA!

 

[andrek787]

Question, why do you need 2 stirrers unless you have two Kore 5ths?

 

[serenity]

Question, why do you need 2 stirrers unless you have two Kore 5ths?

2 Kore 5th's. I am using it solely for ZEOvit products. I will not be using the ATO as I use my APEX for that.

 

[serenity]

I assume you can only upgrade the firmware via a PC?

 

[Griff500]

2 Kore 5th's. I am using it solely for ZEOvit products. I will not be using the ATO as I use my APEX for that.

Which products are you dosing automatically?

 

[serenity]

Which products are you dosing automatically?

1. ZEOstart 3
2. Coral Snow
3. Abalance
4. Bbalance
5. AAHC
6. CV
7. Xtra
8. SPG
9. Sponge
10. bio-mate

I will manual dose on Bak, and only b/c it needs to be cold. I am going to put a small fridge in my fish room, so it will be right there. I would almost buy a lower end stirrer and plug it in, run the wires out of the fridge and use a channel to dose there, but I think that would just be lazy of me lol. and too much work. Plus it gives me an excuse to give the wife, to let me go "dose" in the fish room :dance:

I will use a max of 150ml in containers should it error and dump in extra, it won't nuke my system.

 

[Griff500]

1. ZEOstart 3
2. Coral Snow
3. Abalance
4. Bbalance
5. AAHC
6. CV
7. Xtra
8. SPG
9. Sponge
10. bio-mate

I will manual dose on Bak, and only b/c it needs to be cold. I am going to put a small fridge in my fish room, so it will be right there. I would almost buy a lower end stirrer and plug it in, run the wires out of the fridge and use a channel to dose there, but I think that would just be lazy of me lol. and too much work. Plus it gives me an excuse to give the wife, to let me go "dose" in the fish room :dance:

I will use a max of 150ml in containers should it error and dump in extra, it won't nuke my system.

For Coral Snow, which is supposed to be shaken prior to dosing, are you using a stirrer?

Are you dosing Sponge Power, Biomate and Coral Vitaliser straight from the bottles?

 

[serenity]

For Coral Snow, which is supposed to be shaken prior to dosing, are you using a stirrer?

Are you dosing Sponge Power, Biomate and Coral Vitaliser straight from the bottles?

Correct, I have 2 stirrer's, everything will be stirred prior to dosing for 1 minute.

I am not 100% sure if I will leave those 3 in their bottles or order some vessels from a company. I like to keep those in glass but most likely will not. I have some food grade plastic bottles I may try.

Are you dosing those now with the Kore?

 

[serenity]

Right now I am trying to calibrate these pumps to pump the right amount, right now I am about 1ml off.