Pacific Sun Kore 5th dosing Fan Club

Correct, I have 2 stirrer's, everything will be stirred prior to dosing for 1 minute.

I am not 100% sure if I will leave those 3 in their bottles or order some vessels from a company. I like to keep those in glass but most likely will not. I have some food grade plastic bottles I may try.

Are you dosing those now with the Kore?

At the moment I'm only dosing Start with the Kore, diluted 1:9 (100ml Start with 900ml boiled RODI). No stirring. I suppose stirring could be beneficial and couldn't hurt but I'm not sure if it is necessary.

I'm using the other products mentioned but dosing manually.

Are you using the PS stirrer?
 
Right now I am trying to calibrate these pumps to pump the right amount, right now I am about 1ml off.

Not quite as big an issue with those that can be diluted. It probably wouldn't matter with things such as Coral Snow but others could create issues with an additional ml, although probably not.
 
At the moment I'm only dosing Start with the Kore, diluted 1:9 (100ml Start with 900ml boiled RODI). No stirring. I suppose stirring could be beneficial and couldn't hurt but I'm not sure if it is necessary.

I'm using the other products mentioned but dosing manually.

Are you using the PS stirrer?

I just ordered 2 PS stirrers today, with holiday, they won't be here until Tuesday, but I am ok with that.

I was going to dilute but figured just as easy to dose directly...

have any photos of your setup?
 
I just ordered 2 PS stirrers today, with holiday, they won't be here until Tuesday, but I am ok with that.

I was going to dilute but figured just as easy to dose directly...

have any photos of your setup?

No pictures that I want to share. :lolspin: Currently going through a horrible transition from the aftermath of Triton. It's getting there but in hindsight it would have been better to pull all the rock and sand and pretty much start afresh.

I think it's worth diluting Start as it gives a greater margin for error - 1ml dosed only contains 0.1ml of Start. I could also dilute further, such as 1:19, and only be dosing 0.05ml of Start for every 1ml dose, which would give an even greater margin for error and improve the accuracy of each dose.

I'm not sure that others could be diluted and I haven't read anything saying they can.

Automating Sponge Power would be nice for a start - a slight overdose shouldn't cause issues and I don't think it needs to be refrigerated. I'm not sure about Biomate.

Food for thought!
 
I was meaning your setup for the doser :P.

I just watched this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ0qNlJpymk

and just ordered this

https://www.amazon.com/Avanti-SHP17...363998&sr=1-1&keywords=Avanti+Avanti+SHP1701B

And this - Hopefully it will fit 2 bottles on it, if not it is cheap enough ill pickup a 2nd. I will store them in the fridge.

https://www.amazon.com/BIPEE-SH-II-...&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=magnetic+stirrer&psc=1

I will drill 4 holes in the top and will run CV and Bak in there, along with a Stirrer to mix the 2 before dosing. I will either run these off the Kore 5th or pickup a 2 channel pump to dose with. I won't store the doser in the fridge, just a couple small holes in the top of the fridge.

I think I just got extremely lazy lol.. but with travel and such for work.. I don't want to ask my wife to have to monitor anything. I will setup a couple cameras in the fish room to help monitor. Sorry to get this thread off topic, just excited to use the Kore 5th to make my life a lot easier!
 
Ah, ok. Well the doser is just hanging from the top of the cabinet at the front left using the acrylic bit that PS sell so that the tubing to the sump is as short as possible. I use the thick tubing you get for RODI units for the feed to the reactor and John Guest fittings to route it because that stuff just really doesn't want to bend much. ;)

Despite my comments about software, connection, etc, over the years, I have found it to be quite reliable.

I had read your comments incorrectly and thought you were already dosing Zeovit products with it.
 
Received the new power supply... Although the doser is acting slightly different I have not been able to connect yet. I am going to see if i can schedule another session with support. At this point I will not put any more money into the doser. My hope is that the support folks will know what is going on. Despite the limited amount of corals in my tank I have found that they are in need of supplements, I have started dosing manually. This is very frustrating,especially hearing that there are some people are out there using the product successfully.
 
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Received the new power supply... Although the doser is acting slightly different I have not been able to connect yet. I am going to see if i can schedule another session with support. At this point I will not put any more money into the doser. My hope is that the support folks will know what is going on. Despite the limited amount of corals in my tank I have found that they are in need of supplements, I have started dosing manually. This is very frustrating,especially hearing that there are some people are out there using the product successfully.

I had a lot of issues getting it to connect reliably and understanding the quirks of it's software. I had to do a full reset a number of times.

I haven't read all the issues you've had, but have you tried a full reset and update to the latest firmware and software? Apologies if you've been through everything already - I'm not going to read the entire thread to figure out exactly where you are with it... ;)

Once mine was working well I left it alone - no more firmware updates for me! ;)
 
I have been through the range of items with this doser... Started with Mac noted the differences between the interfaces, switched to the PC. Discovered some of the nuances.
Made sure firmware updates were done with laptop close by. Then had a connection issue, after working with support upon their "advice" I sent the unit back. After receiving it they tell me it was only a firmware update. Although I question that because I have updated the firmware and gone through it several times until I learned of the how it needed to be done. Surely they could have also walked me through it remotely.

After getting it back (which took some time due to international shipping) I did not set it up because I was in the process of upgrading to a larger tank so.... When I did set it up, I had no issue. UNTIL I wanted to try to use the additional functionality. Prior I only used it for dosing a nano tank. Now I wanted to use autotop off, floats worked fine but when I attempted to use optical sensor something went south.

Here I am today with similar issue that I sent back for. Shipping was 100, I bought the additional dongle and now the power supply.

To put it in perspective, the wife and I bought a washing machine that was a bit cheaper than this doser, recently they have had issues so they recalled the washers. We were able to get a brand new washer with the rebate they provided. We stayed with the same brand and bought another due to the company's action. Yes my warranty is over with this doser but I can say It has been idle longer than it has been in use.

I am trying not to bad mouth but for the price this is not acceptable to me. I am not going to be like others and just shelve the product. I am figuring out my next steps should this turn sour. I have a few things in mind not the experience i had for this unit. Really I just want it to work so I can rave about the performance and dependability.
 
You should probably get familiar with updates before fully depending on it. Eventually you will need to update. I think I would rather learn now and are confident when you finally need to update. In reality updates are a good thing, they are improving the product. My hope is that I will get beyond these issues and all will be fine. My main issues have been on connecting, if yours is connecting fine you are off to a good start.
 
Well heck. Why am I not able to find this stuff online.

And 1 more item came today.
 

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It seems that people has way more problems and reliability issues with the kore 5th than lets say Jebao DP series , even though i think Jebao/Jecod sells at least 10units for every kore 5th .
And Jebao is just a fraction of the cost of a kore doser.

But the kore has more precise dosing.

So that not very well working BT connection and ATO is kind of expensive if you ask me ;)
 
I appreciate all voices in this thread but I feel that it going on not proper way.
Please let me focus on some facts.
1. There is app for firmware update on Mac. We are sharing it on request for Customers which KNOW what they are doing.
I see trend that very person who buy any equipment firstly want to try firmware update not thinking for what it's needed. We ship dosers ALWAYS with latest, stable firmware. We didn't had any major/critical errors in firmware which would require from Customers update within last year or more.
Mostly they are refinements and adjusting some graphics/translations - sometimes small improvements in newest system compatibility (like for Mac OS Sierra).
It's true that there is needed GOOD QUALITY BT module for proper firmware update .
We wrote about that and inform every time when similar thread is on.
Every time firmware updating have a risk that something can go wrong(like power failure etc).
If any Customer is not sure how it should be done - our service can support him and even do it remotely without any additional cost.
2. We don't know how many pumps sell Jebao or orthers - we know how many we sold.
Comparing Kore 5th to Jebao(please excuse me) - is like comparing oranges to apples.
We are talking about completely two different products - one(Jebao) is simply dozer with few buttons on housing - second one is like "simply" computer which can do many things - work as ATO, AWC, do precise doses, stirring liquids etc.
There is easy rule - more complicated product - more possibilities to fail.However...
We sold abut 10.000 units since February 2014.
Of course, some Customers reported issues with compatibility, communication with their computers etc- but overall issues were below 4%. Mostly 90% of any reported issues were sourced during initial setup - mean , that dozer "didn't want" to work with Customer computer.
Due Windows incompatibility, windows version , bluetooth modules etc.
I think that 1 for every 10 users satisfied from product will write about that - but almost every one not satisfied will post his opinion without any thoughts.
Thats how its working - and we really work very hard too keep all of Customers satisfied.
Our main market is Europe - I think that we sold here more than 90% of our devices. Every one can try to find bad reviews about them, if all that problems reported here would be a rule - there should be hundreds of them posted worldwide.
So - I will tell it again.
Please let us focus on problems/helping Customers.
Every one person which will contact with us and will report ANY troubles will not be left without help - also after warranty.
We never refused help / support for Customer who's warranty is over.
We offer 2 years, in USA typical warranty time is 1 year - so as it's easy to see - it's more than other offers in standard.(not comparing to Jebao/Jecod).
But even if warrant y is over for one or two days - we cant simply replace any device if Customer inform us about troubles.
If we will do that - why we shouldn't do that for Customers which warranty expired one week or one month ago?
Please understand us correctly, all of us(Pacific Sun stuff) is strongly focused on helping Customers. We know how much important is after sale support, and we work really hard.
Similar like in Ed(truepercs) case - our service try to figure it out - a specially that dozer was bought few years ago, from previous reseller and after checking it in our company everything was working ok - we have detailed reports confirmed by three persons(one service chief finally).
We paid also for shipping it back to USA on our own cost.
We just want to be fairly judged in this thread.
Thank you for understanding.

Regards

Przemek
 
I appreciate all voices in this thread but I feel that it going on not proper way.
Please let me focus on some facts.
1. There is app for firmware update on Mac. We are sharing it on request for Customers which KNOW what they are doing.
I see trend that very person who buy any equipment firstly want to try firmware update not thinking for what it's needed. We ship dosers ALWAYS with latest, stable firmware. We didn't had any major/critical errors in firmware which would require from Customers update within last year or more.
Mostly they are refinements and adjusting some graphics/translations - sometimes small improvements in newest system compatibility (like for Mac OS Sierra).
It's true that there is needed GOOD QUALITY BT module for proper firmware update .
We wrote about that and inform every time when similar thread is on.
Every time firmware updating have a risk that something can go wrong(like power failure etc).
If any Customer is not sure how it should be done - our service can support him and even do it remotely without any additional cost.
2. We don't know how many pumps sell Jebao or orthers - we know how many we sold.
Comparing Kore 5th to Jebao(please excuse me) - is like comparing oranges to apples.
We are talking about completely two different products - one(Jebao) is simply dozer with few buttons on housing - second one is like "simply" computer which can do many things - work as ATO, AWC, do precise doses, stirring liquids etc.
There is easy rule - more complicated product - more possibilities to fail.However...
We sold abut 10.000 units since February 2014.
Of course, some Customers reported issues with compatibility, communication with their computers etc- but overall issues were below 4%. Mostly 90% of any reported issues were sourced during initial setup - mean , that dozer "didn't want" to work with Customer computer.
Due Windows incompatibility, windows version , bluetooth modules etc.
I think that 1 for every 10 users satisfied from product will write about that - but almost every one not satisfied will post his opinion without any thoughts.
Thats how its working - and we really work very hard too keep all of Customers satisfied.
Our main market is Europe - I think that we sold here more than 90% of our devices. Every one can try to find bad reviews about them, if all that problems reported here would be a rule - there should be hundreds of them posted worldwide.
So - I will tell it again.
Please let us focus on problems/helping Customers.
Every one person which will contact with us and will report ANY troubles will not be left without help - also after warranty.
We never refused help / support for Customer who's warranty is over.
We offer 2 years, in USA typical warranty time is 1 year - so as it's easy to see - it's more than other offers in standard.(not comparing to Jebao/Jecod).
But even if warrant y is over for one or two days - we cant simply replace any device if Customer inform us about troubles.
If we will do that - why we shouldn't do that for Customers which warranty expired one week or one month ago?
Please understand us correctly, all of us(Pacific Sun stuff) is strongly focused on helping Customers. We know how much important is after sale support, and we work really hard.
Similar like in Ed(truepercs) case - our service try to figure it out - a specially that dozer was bought few years ago, from previous reseller and after checking it in our company everything was working ok - we have detailed reports confirmed by three persons(one service chief finally).
We paid also for shipping it back to USA on our own cost.
We just want to be fairly judged in this thread.
Thank you for understanding.

Regards

Przemek



I would like for someone to remote in. I bought this unit used and looking back through this thread he had a lot of issues. Please pm me when you can remote in and update my unit.


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