Peppermint Angel

I think that says ALOT about living reef

What's it say?
They made a big profit on that sale, they get to have people come in to see it, and I would doubt that they assumed full liability for its long term survival!
Sounds like a good business decision!
 
What's it say?
They made a big profit on that sale, they get to have people come in to see it, and I would doubt that they assumed full liability for its long term survival!
Sounds like a good business decision!

I personally think it says a lot. I don't know if anyone on this thread actually knows the details of the agreement, but let's assume the owner of the fish won't hold the lfs responsible if the peppermint dies during their care. The mere fact that the owner would agree to this says a lot about the confidence the owner has in his lfs to entrust such a rare, delicate and expensive to their care.

Also I think I read somewhere that this was the first store or person to receive the Peppermint from this shipment and they ordered it without having it pre-sold. This is incredibly ballsy on their part. Especially when you consider that most of the fish they have in inventory probably averages a lot less than $100. Even at wholesale this fish has to be over the $10k mark. I don't exactly how many survived from the last shipment, but I know there have been some fatalities.

I think you gotta give some props to this store - they obviously know what they're doing.
 
I personally think it says a lot. I don't know if anyone on this thread actually knows the details of the agreement, but let's assume the owner of the fish won't hold the lfs responsible if the peppermint dies during their care. The mere fact that the owner would agree to this says a lot about the confidence the owner has in his lfs to entrust such a rare, delicate and expensive to their care.

Also I think I read somewhere that this was the first store or person to receive the Peppermint from this shipment and they ordered it without having it pre-sold. This is incredibly ballsy on their part. Especially when you consider that most of the fish they have in inventory probably averages a lot less than $100. Even at wholesale this fish has to be over the $10k mark. I don't exactly how many survived from the last shipment, but I know there have been some fatalities.

I think you gotta give some props to this store - they obviously know what they're doing.

+1 I think you nailed the analysis Wayne. I would add to it that if I were the customer and the store, I might agree to a sliding scale loss sharing agreement based on the amount of time they held the fish.
 
I have nothing but respect for Living Reef for this. Whatever else you may think, bottom line is they're doing a good job keeping this fish from what I see. That's the most important thing. And to leave it out in the public view instead of hidden in the coral farm? I have nothing to say about that other than Thank You.
 
I think it is a good decision to leave it in the tank and not move it for a while, especially after so many of the others perished. It will the give the owner plenty of time for his tank to mature.
 
Wow,

they're finally getting these in the US. This was and still is my favorite angel, been wanting one for over 10 years. One day, there will be a mated pair in some one tank

rev
 
That is a dumb purchase. Should have left it in the ocean. Just because you can buy it does not mean you should. Whether it was $22,000 or $30,000 just stupid. Not impressed at all
 
Just because you can't afford it nor appreciate it, there is no reason for you calling people dumb and stupid. You have no idea how difficult to acquire this fish.
 
That is a dumb purchase. Should have left it in the ocean. Just because you can buy it does not mean you should. Whether it was $22,000 or $30,000 just stupid. Not impressed at all
Is there a reason you replied to a 4 month old thread just to make derogatory comments about how others spend their money?
 
That is a dumb purchase. Should have left it in the ocean. Just because you can buy it does not mean you should. Whether it was $22,000 or $30,000 just stupid. Not impressed at all

Well, luckily nobody is trying to impress you. Any particular reason why you decided to go to multiple months-old posts to hate on living reef?
 
I'd personally try to keep these in the ocean as well. If they do sell for upwards of $20,000 sellers will try everything to get them. Since these are really deep water fish, they can easily be killed by the lower pressure of home aquariums if not acclimated properly.
 
I'd be way more concerned about fish they're taking out in mass quantities than a rare deepwater fish that has had only a handful ever removed from the wild.
 
I'd personally try to keep these in the ocean as well. If they do sell for upwards of $20,000 sellers will try everything to get them. Since these are really deep water fish, they can easily be killed by the lower pressure of home aquariums if not acclimated properly.

The pressure in a home aquarium has absolutely zero effect on the longevity of these fish - or fish in general. If a fish is not adequately decompressed during collection it will not survive for more than a few seconds after reaching the surface of the water. Peppermint angels are difficult to catch and difficult to get to, thus the high cost. There is, however, no shortage of them in the wild. In their natural habitat, mineatus groupers snack on peppermint angels all day long...
 
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