55semireef
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Wow I was reading along while this thread was going and I have learned quite a bit. GSMguy, good luck with your beautiful yellow BTA. If you ever move down to FLA and it splits on you let me know. 
Phishy yellow BTA, PICS
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55semireef
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Oh I thought you bought it. How much were they?
Dawman
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Neither of those pics have a yellow nem , greenish color , but not yellow .
Ok then , prove me wrong . Show proof someone has found one in the wild and is yellow , not a greenish/yellowish one in someone`s tank .
According to;
Dr. Daphne G. Fautin
California Academy of Sciences
University of Kansas
and
Dr. Gerald R. Allen
Western Australian Museum
"Details Animal commonly attached deeply in crevice or hole so that only emergent tentacles visible. Column without verrucae; usually brown, sometimes reddish or greenish; gradually flared from small pedal disc. Oral disc same brown colour as tentacles. Tentacles can collapse when disturbed, appear gray-green. "
They go on about many other anemones and state some other nems can have a yellowish/fuchsia mouth . Some rare species have yellow and pink tips . Also go on about other species have rare yellow tips , yellowish/cream base . Nothing about a natural full blown yellow colored anemone .
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55semireef
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For the record, Phenders Mertensii had plenty of yellow in it. It looked very yellow to me.
triggerfish1976
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I think the problem is when someone thinks yellow they picture a lemon or a school bus. These Anemones are really green with a yellowish tint to them or at least that is how I percieve them. I can clearly see green in all three of the anemones noted above but given the fact that these are different shades that the standard greens that are normally encountered with each of the types of anems. and the color is yellowish we label them as plain yellow anemones.
You will also get various colors when these are viewed under various lighting schemes and various camera effect (natural and customized) so all of these may look totally different in person.
It's similar to when colors like red and orange are described in SPS corals. Given that these are two fairly rare pigments in SPS the industry stretches the perception a little to be able to sell them for more money.
You will also get various colors when these are viewed under various lighting schemes and various camera effect (natural and customized) so all of these may look totally different in person.
It's similar to when colors like red and orange are described in SPS corals. Given that these are two fairly rare pigments in SPS the industry stretches the perception a little to be able to sell them for more money.
Well, Serdar, whether it meets someone's personal definition of yellow or not, they look very unique. Atleast not anything I have ever seen before. Especially from the colors you can see in the first couple of pictures that were posted from your website. As previously mentioned, you will have to post pictures of the clone in a couple of months. It will be interesting to see what color they end up when acclimated to different lighting conditions.
The good news is you got some free advertising out of this thread too.
The good news is you got some free advertising out of this thread too.
phender
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I know I am beating a dead horse here, but the color of carpet anemones is their tip color. Blue, red and green carpets are only that color on the tips of their tentacles. You are right that color is in the eyes of the beholder. I don't think I would call Todd's carpet yellow. I might call phishy's BTA yellow if I saw it in person. I don't have a pic of my dark yellow haddoni, but it was like yellow mustard. I don't see any green in the merten's photo and like I said, in carpets, tip color is the anemone color. Look again in the Fautin/Allen book, it says both mertens and haddonis can have yellow tip color.
On the subject of the Fautin/Allen book. Daphne Fautin is a well recognized anemone expert. However, I have been told by one of the top reef aquarium experts in the country that at the time the book was written, she hadn't been able to keep any host anemones alive long enough to study them in an aquarium. Most the info came from dives. Has she seen every anemone? Did she say that there weren't any yellow anemones? She just didn't mention that color in BTAs. She also didn't mention blue haddoni or purple based magnifica, does that mean they don't exist?
The Fautin/Allen book is a great reference for anemones and clownfish, but it is not the gospel. They mention that the bulbs on BTAs seems to be related to the presence of fish. Oop, its not. We know this based on aquarium tests and photos from the wild. They say that mertens carpets have non-adhesive tentacles. Not true either, just ask anyone that has kept one. I could go on.
Which brings us back to a point I tried to make earlier. Just because it is written some where, doesn't mean it is true.
On the subject of the Fautin/Allen book. Daphne Fautin is a well recognized anemone expert. However, I have been told by one of the top reef aquarium experts in the country that at the time the book was written, she hadn't been able to keep any host anemones alive long enough to study them in an aquarium. Most the info came from dives. Has she seen every anemone? Did she say that there weren't any yellow anemones? She just didn't mention that color in BTAs. She also didn't mention blue haddoni or purple based magnifica, does that mean they don't exist?
The Fautin/Allen book is a great reference for anemones and clownfish, but it is not the gospel. They mention that the bulbs on BTAs seems to be related to the presence of fish. Oop, its not. We know this based on aquarium tests and photos from the wild. They say that mertens carpets have non-adhesive tentacles. Not true either, just ask anyone that has kept one. I could go on.
Which brings us back to a point I tried to make earlier. Just because it is written some where, doesn't mean it is true.
Dawman
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What about the BTA that started this? There is no such thing as a YBTA as I was trying to state from the get go . Nobody has shown proof of a yellow nem that is in the wild . So if you can`t believe what Fautin/Allen wrote then what you state from it can be false also . Believing and not believing what an author says goes both ways .
The ONLY pic on this thread that looks or even resembles YELLOW is the FIRST one . All the others look greenish or tan/cream colored . Which brings me to my point , it is DYED .
The ONLY pic on this thread that looks or even resembles YELLOW is the FIRST one . All the others look greenish or tan/cream colored . Which brings me to my point , it is DYED .
GSMguy
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10544542#post10544542 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dawman
What about the BTA that started this? There is no such thing as a YBTA as I was trying to state from the get go . Nobody has shown proof of a yellow nem that is in the wild . So if you can`t believe what Fautin/Allen wrote then what you state from it can be false also . Believing and not believing what an author says goes both ways .
The ONLY pic on this thread that looks or even resembles YELLOW is the FIRST one . All the others look greenish or tan/cream colored . Which brings me to my point , it is DYED .
dawman Serdar owns phishy buisness the bta that started this is the same in the photos i posted and serdar posted. I just posted the pics off of his website, also he personally collected this anemone from the reef on the other side of the world and sent it to himself in Ohio. then it split in 3 and he is selling 2 and keeping one.
that is a yellow BTA if you want to aknowledge the overwhelming presence of yellow in it.
if you read his phenders post completly as i can tell your not reading all the posts in this thread, you will see that he is just posting his personall and extensive experience with keeping anemones.
triggerfish1976
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10544542#post10544542 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dawman
The ONLY pic on this thread that looks or even resembles YELLOW is the FIRST one . All the others look greenish or tan/cream colored . Which brings me to my point , it is DYED .
I'll have to disagree with you on the dyed aspect. If it was dyed I think that the colors would be truly yellow like the dyed sebae's that are available from time to time.
Phishy Business and Sedar are also one of the most honest and well respected livestock vendors in the country and if he says it is not dyed then I have to believe him. He wouldn't risk his rep. by selling a dyed anemone.
