Photo Copyright Infringement

[craftytony]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9352582#post9352582 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by glaspie69
LOL......this thing seems to be about nothing more the a reefer street fight about whose click is cooler.......you know we tell our kids not to join gangs and fight over turf but what are you doing now.......having a peeing contest to try and mark territory

my little female chihuahua can beat up your dog...your dog looks wimpy!

disclaimer: i am a dog lover and would never want to see one harmed, i am just pointing out something that seems to be fairly obvious.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9352357#post9352357 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by glaspie69
I don't mean to intrude of "your" club forum or cause any hard feelings with this post.
To be honest with everyone this has to be one of the MOST irresponsible threads I have ever read...

you should have read the toenail red lobster thread

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9352443#post9352443 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefman133
You people amaze me,

what do you mean by "you people"?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9352443#post9352443 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefman133

Reefers are some of the coolest and biggest douchebags...

Do you kiss your mom with that mouth?

disclaimer: nothing against mom's, if it weren't for mothers we could not exist. My mother left me in a small village in mexico where i grew up as the town drunk. after cleaning myself up and moving to mexico i learned how to become the instigator that i am today

 

[DaveBien]

With me all that would have been necessary would have been a reasonably polite PM or email to pull the post. Whereas this gentleman takes his "photography" or snapshots seriously I take my and other's right to privacy seriously. Especially when the reason of the photo was commerical. Neither I nor anyone else at that fest is a public figure, therefore we have a reasonable expectation of privacy in a controlled setting. This is NOT a reflection on the Reefers nor John at Uberfrags rather my umbriage at the tone of the initial post here by the photographer. Both the Rockford Reefers and Uberfrags (John especially) are good for the hobby. But I wonder what the reaction would be if I took photos of the photographer and used them advertising something without his permission?

Darn, I hate having to use big words and phrases to express my thoughts and concerns.

< Saving the known Universe one photo at a time.

 

[yznhmr]

as usual i should have kept my mouth shut..

 

[craftytony]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9353130#post9353130 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by yznhmr
as usual i should have kept my mouth shut..

SILENCE YZNHMR!!!

 

[mcliffy2]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9352861#post9352861 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DaveBien
With me all that would have been necessary would have been a reasonably polite PM or email to pull the post. Whereas this gentleman takes his "photography" or snapshots seriously I take my and other's right to privacy seriously. Especially when the reason of the photo was commerical. Neither I nor anyone else at that fest is a public figure, therefore we have a reasonable expectation of privacy in a controlled setting. This is NOT a reflection on the Reefers nor John at Uberfrags rather my umbriage at the tone of the initial post here by the photographer. Both the Rockford Reefers and Uberfrags (John especially) are good for the hobby. But I wonder what the reaction would be if I took photos of the photographer and used them advertising something without his permission?

Darn, I hate having to use big words and phrases to express my thoughts and concerns.

< Saving the known Universe one photo at a time.

In that sense, you aren't very likely to win arguing your right to privacy is violated. I don't want to go into detail (for liability reasons, this cannot be construed as legal advice, but only my lay opinion), but unless someone uses your picture in an advertisement directly, you won't win much. Any other way, the only place you can really expect privacy is your own home. Not saying its right, just the way it is.

 

[whirley]

Since when has the internet been " a public forum." ?

I can buy an IP and cut off other public people from using that IP. Packets, which are a part of the internet, can be encrypted so only certain people can have access to them.

Microsoft carves part of the 'internet' to work with thier games, amounst other things. IP Telephones cut of part of the internet to use for thier private transmission. I could go on and on....

The internet is NOT public. I, a user of the internet, do not have access to the 'whole internet'.

If I had access to the whole internet, I'd definately check out my online banking and 'insert credits' into my bank account.

Hanging tough.

whirley the CrackerZ

 

[desjardiniidj]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9352802#post9352802 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by craftytony
my little female chihuahua can beat up your dog...your dog looks wimpy!

disclaimer: i am a dog lover and would never want to see one harmed, i am just pointing out something that seems to be fairly obvious.



you should have read the toenail red lobster thread



what do you mean by "you people"?



Do you kiss your mom with that mouth?

disclaimer: nothing against mom's, if it weren't for mothers we could not exist. My mother left me in a small village in mexico where i grew up as the town drunk. after cleaning myself up and moving to mexico i learned how to become the instigator that i am today

Tonya.....You are a silly little reefer!

disclaimer: I have nothing against reefers, for a am a reefer myself.

Should I have gotten your permission to use the "disclaimer" at the end of my response? Oh well. Tonya, you can sue me for some sps that aren't pink!

 

[craftytony]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9353524#post9353524 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by desjardiniidj
Tonya.....You are a silly little reefer!

disclaimer: I have nothing against reefers, for a am a reefer myself.

Should I have gotten your permission to use the "disclaimer" at the end of my response? Oh well. Tonya, you can sue me for some sps that aren't pink!

desjardingreypoupon, you would never need my permission...you are such a sweet young lad...

 

[Swamp Donkey]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9352443#post9352443 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefman133
You people amaze me, first of all Gary has no affiliation with UF other then he is a member, and photographed the UF RR swap. All the people running their mouths and making light of the situation are the same people that think stealing software or downloading illegal music are ok. Reefers are some of the coolest and biggest douchebags I know. Should UF post the RC articles? maybe do it without permission. I do also find it funny that for the longest time you couldn't post UF here, but now that you want to bash it, its allowed...says a lot for RC

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Let this be a lesson the the person who orginally posted the pics.... Do not post something on the net if you don't want it getting around. It's the interweb....people steal from one another daily. I also see zero problems with sharing those pics...if anything if helped UF out. people had pictures with their UF t shirts on. i am sure quite a few people had no clue the site existed until they say those pics. Stupid more on getting the pics pulled.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9349091#post9349091 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mnestroy
Your account at Uberfrags. net has been suspended.

Reason for Suspension
"Needless to say I will not contribute to that other message board or give them any money in a sponsored event, since their only goal is to better their site and not this hobby. (and the mods of this board also feel this way cause the site your referring to gets automatically deleted from the post)"

With this comment you have no reason to be on this site.


Laugh, like I said, there is more to this discussion than just two people posting photos from this event, and I really think this whole situation goes to show the characters of the site in question.

Instead of wanting others to share their experience at the swap they do the opposite by requesting all photos be taken down, as punishment for me voicing my comments they suspend my account...

:rollface:

Dude if you got suspended then that might just be the most weak move I have EVER seen on a board. banning someone who has a opinion that a mod doesn't agree with?!?!?! who ever banned you started the site down a very slippery slope. I mean can you never knock the site? There are always going to be things about a site that people won't like, don't start banning....just ignore it. Some mod or admin needs to get thicker skin otherwise they will have a site that has 3 people on the memberlist and 600 on the ban list.

 

[Buckyez]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9353481#post9353481 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by whirley
Since when has the internet been " a public forum." ?

I can buy an IP and cut off other public people from using that IP. Packets, which are a part of the internet, can be encrypted so only certain people can have access to them.

Microsoft carves part of the 'internet' to work with thier games, amounst other things. IP Telephones cut of part of the internet to use for thier private transmission. I could go on and on....

The internet is NOT public. I, a user of the internet, do not have access to the 'whole internet'.

If I had access to the whole internet, I'd definately check out my online banking and 'insert credits' into my bank account.

Hanging tough.

whirley the CrackerZ

The Internet is public. It includes usenet, WWW, servers, etc. The internet cannot be own by one country or one company. It made up of a bunch of servers around the world that linked together to share/colaborate on ideas,researches,etc. Any thing that are private should be kept behind servers/networks.

The main issue with this thread is copyright on pictures. IMHO, if the pictures were posted and shared on the net, they will fall under fair use. Do Yahoo and Google violate copyright when they link and cache pictures of websites on the net? Do they violate DMCA when they backup the pictures/files?

--Bucky

 

[reefman133]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9353910#post9353910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Swamp Donkey
Dude if you got suspended then that might just be the most weak move I have EVER seen on a board. banning someone who has a opinion that a mod doesn't agree with?!?!?! who ever banned you started the site down a very slippery slope. I mean can you never knock the site? There are always going to be things about a site that people won't like, don't start banning....just ignore it. Some mod or admin needs to get thicker skin otherwise they will have a site that has 3 people on the memberlist and 600 on the ban list.

How is that weak??? He said he wasn't going to support or contribute, sounds like the admins were simply making sure he kept his word.

 

[whirley]

This thread is pointless.

I'm going back to downloading my New Kids on the Block CD.

 

[adamjr]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9351506#post9351506 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mcliffy2
Careful citing IL law...that is state law, copyright is federal. There are often similarities, but state law has no power in an area controlled by federal law.

I believe your argument to be incorrect.

There is a Federal Animal Welfare Act. Illinois also has it's own Animal welfare act.

I had an issue a few years ago and was given information by the USDA contrary to what you are saying. I was told that states rights take priority over federal law when there are similar laws on both levels.

Likewise with state law, IE; Illinois vehicle code, taking a back seat to local municipalities. I have an unlicensed and unregistered vehicle in my driveway. Illinois law provides that registration is necessary only for a vehicle driven on public roadways. My municipality says otherwise. Although I do not drive it and am lawful at the state level I am violating the law at the local level.

Not trying to get into an argument with you, just stating facts as they have applied to two real-life situations. This isn't theory, it's pratice.

Adam

What I know about intelectual property law can fit into a thimble and have room left over. When a photographer takes a photo it is his to do with as he pleases. End of story. As stated previously you only have a reasonable expectation of privacy in your own home with the doors and shades closed. Stand naked in front of an uncovered window and anyone can take a picture and do with it as they please.

In my case I would hope if I was photographed in that situation that the photo would be destroyed. No reason to make folks ill for no good reason.

 

[reefman133]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9353955#post9353955 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Buckyez
The Internet is public. It includes usenet, WWW, servers, etc. The internet cannot be own by one country or one company. It made up of a bunch of servers around the world that linked together to share/colaborate on ideas,researches,etc. Any thing that are private should be kept behind servers/networks.

The main issue with this thread is copyright on pictures. IMHO, if the pictures were posted and shared on the net, they will fall under fair use. Do Yahoo and Google violate copyright when they link and cache pictures of websites on the net? Do they violate DMCA when they backup the pictures/files?

--Bucky

I love how people are experts on things they know nothing about. The internet is not public, it is comprised of a network of government & private computers. If it is indeed public, why would we need to pay for domain names or access. I guess you have a magic # that provides free internet, and all the millions of people who pay SBC, verizon, Comcast, etc are stupid. Get a clue the internet is indeed private.

 

[paininthewrasse]

gosh, mods close this thread its a waste of time and bandwith

 

[paininthewrasse]

and tonya my FINGERnail red lobster thread most certainly was not!

 

[BrokenReefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9354219#post9354219 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefman133
I love how people are experts on things they know nothing about. The internet is not public, it is comprised of a network of government & private computers. If it is indeed public, why would we need to pay for domain names or access. I guess you have a magic # that provides free internet, and all the millions of people who pay SBC, verizon, Comcast, etc are stupid. Get a clue the internet is indeed private.

So, if the internets were free - that computer your are sitting behind... would that have also been included in that free giveaway of the internets? Or is that part of the "private" network of interwebs that is currently operating?

It's a giant conspiracy, much the same as the current sexuality of Ronald McDonald!!! I think he's really Michael Jackson, but people don't believe me. I fail at life apparently.

 

[Buckyez]

Yes. Please do. It's beyond pointless.

--Bucky

 

[reefman133]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9354295#post9354295 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pasion
So, if the internets were free - that computer your are sitting behind... would that have also been included in that free giveaway of the internets? Or is that part of the "private" network of interwebs that is currently operating?

It's a giant conspiracy, much the same as the current sexuality of Ronald McDonald!!! I think he's really Michael Jackson, but people don't believe me. I fail at life apparently.

I never said it was free. Stick to shingles my friend