pico reef pest algae problem challenge

Rather than just bash em i'm really wanting to get a problem tank and get their input, they may have something we don't

Truth is, they are saying what allot of people are thinking, I just want to know if peroxide is the bees knees or not

Getting to the heart of pest management is the real goal testing null hypotheses is a heck of a way to get there. If we can get their input, silent skeptics might be swayed
 
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I don't wish to bash them, but would like to hear their opinions as well. I'm trying to find the thread on Nano Reef currently. Just realized that I haven't logged on over there since 2006, lol. It's when I began my 30gal cube that lead to several other larger systems.
 
I've had tanks since 1999, and this hair algae problem has only been with me in the past year or two. I believe that I let the water quality lapse during the 3-4 months when we were trying to sell our house Summer-Fall 2010 (no time available to devote to tank, I put tank on auto-pilot) and that's when hair algae appeared.

So.. yes, there was a period of time when the hair algae had conditions favorable to grasp hold, poor water quality, but my water quality has been good since about Nov 2010, right after we moved and I moved the tank to the new house. The hair algae has never magically disappeared with better water, and better lights, and replacement rock (eco-friendly dry rock from BRS), and new cleanup crew, and a new GFO reactor, and 1/3rd of the fish load. Didn't happen.

there are two issues - keeping good water parameters, and fighting existing hair algae plagues. these are two different issues. when someone posts a new thread on how to treat hair algae, there's always comments of "you need to find the source of the problem", which is true, but doesn't address the problem of eliminating the existing plague.
 
Here it it is

http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=294518&st=0&start=0

I hate for petty jabbing to take away from the simple focus of tank cures but the fact is I read the stickied threads in their disease and pest forum and they aren't as helpful as reefmisers original peroxide thread that started this huge momentum.

These guys aren't likely to accept the challenge, but if we can get them to talk we may uncover common hesitations among those not willing to speak up.I wanted the peroxide threads to encompass all positive and negatives involved, a true evaluation.
 
Link doesn't work Brandon.

Also I understand what you are trying to do but all you can do is present the situation and the actions taken to addressing that situation.

If they choose not to accept the results it is their loss.
 
Yep ur right it would be very neat to run alternate methods though to see what works better in comparison

Posted link from my Droid seems to work here maybe something is off who knows, you aren't missing out much lol
 
As you have said before:

1. H2O2 works.
2. It will continue to be used until something better if found.
3. No one is standing on a soapbox yelling at others demanding they use it.


If HD really believes that a tank with an invader is a failed tank that would mean that every tank on here and every other website would be a failure. Does that mean every TOTM tank is a failure or all the ones in the best from around the world are? I don't think I have ever seen a tank set up for any period of time not have an issue that needed to be addressed.

Anyone can set up a reef tank. People do it everyday on here and at home but what sets one reefer apart from another is his or her ability to identify issues that come up and how he or she deals with those issues.

Think about Paul B's tank. That tank is older than I am and has algae growing all over it. By his definition that would mean Paul's tank is a failure.

Just between you, me and this fence post I would take his advice over their's any day.
 
Nice point

I wanted to show you an amazing comparative post from randys chem forum, it boggled me!

Chemicals that were advocated over peroxide:
Drain cleaner (whoa)
Bleach

Its an older thread but full of amazing biocidal comparisons
 
Does anyone know if i'm allowed to mail a custom 18% solution to a friend? When I received some lipo batteries today there was a safety flyer taped to box, alerting of caution/fire hazard...wonder if id need one of those but maybe for caustics
 
hi there,
ive just finished reading through the whole thread, but it doesnt seem like anyone has tried using H202 on cyano? Would it work? What would be the approach if it was contained on the sandbed?
Thanks
 
hi! thanks for contributing to our data. It will kill it, peroxide can kill every known reef pest except for a few anemone types

For cyano, some opt for non chemical options, they remove it via siphon, increase flow etc

but its totally ok to burn it out with peroxide if you want to, I would. it kills the whole biomass rather than waiting for natural decline which can take a while and have some resurgence in the meantime.

the nano reef.com forum had two people who killed cyano with it.

one dosed the whole tank at 1:10 dilution we've discussed cuz his cycling tank had no livestock and it was an easy kill. the other had it on the sandbed too, he drained tank down to substrate, sprayed peroxide out of a spray bottle a few pumps right on the wet but drained substrate, let sit for two minutes, refill and it died same day and never came back.

any of these options are fine, please take before and after pics if you do those are the heart of the thread!
thanks
B
 
Ok guys, so let's get down to business. What are we doing about the GHA on the front of my glass?

Draining the tank 50% is not going to work since I can't make and store 45 g of fresh saltwater for a fill up afterwards. At most, I can drain 10-15 g which won't really address the issue since I would only be able to treat maybe the top 4" of the tank.

I am thinking of doing the full tank dose route. Does it make sense to do a 1 week trial at half the tank dose (0.5ml per gal vs 1 ml per gal) ?

Any other idea? The 'soak a sponge in h202 and wipe glass underwater' is going to end up just dosing the tank anyway as the h202 gets squeezed out.
 
Sure that's a safe dose, just to recap the animals that don't like systemic dosing

Cleaner shrimp
bristle worms
Decorative macros
Hosting anemones, no losses but stress for a week
Coralline, comes back after treatment

Depending on how those fare in your tank the 1ml has always been safe

Be sure and make the pics it should take one week, dosed two or three times with a water change end of week
 
I did 1ml per 10g and it did absolutely nothing... maybe I'll try again with the higher dose if other people aren't having problems with 1ml/gallon
 
Ok I will give it a try and take pix. My tank has never really 'reved' up so some losses at this time wouldn't be the end of the world.
 
the two rocks I treated today. will update pics tomorrow.
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I just came across this thread after creating one about my algae problems, after reading all 20 or so pages and a few of the other threads linked in here i'm going to give it a try.

Doing a large water change tonight so i'm going to go for some spot treatment and 5 minute dips in a 5:1 solution i will post some pics once completed.

Great thread and thanks to everyone for posting their experience!
 
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