pico reef pest algae problem challenge

so you are recommending to drain tank to level of rock? i pulled a piece that i received from a guy it was covered in GHA(not in my DT since i bought it that way) but its a de end size rock, i put it in a bucket and dumped peroxide in there and added water to help cover the rock.........good idea/bad idea to add water?
corey
 
that w zap it, just leave it in about 3 or 4 mins dont nuke everything on the rock lol but yes that w zap it

pics man, not enough people will do this unless we prove it to em by pics. any green hair algae on that rock will die by tomorrow, that fast. then get end shot pics of it barren!
 
Ok guys! This is gonna be the post of what not to do! lol! I did remove my livestock before hand to see what would happen...Things are moving quickly as supplies to rebuild are on the way so the full tank small dose went out the window! DO NOT DOSE YOU ENTIRE SYSTEM! WoW! 3% peroxide is like a nuke! I did dose 10 ml the first couple days ad was noticing some results, but i had to get it drained...about half an average size bottle...75 gal plus 30 gal sump...nuke! Bristleworms floating around the tank everything dead! My tank is empty and sanitized now awaiting marco rocks and new sand! Good luck with this but as stated before it is a very good idea to remove the rock :0 Happy reefing to all!
 
I'm interested, I have this rock. It has a small Sps attached to it that is just starting to turn around from a slight bleaching. I've pulled it out before when I scrubbed the rock so I think it will be okay.

This is 8 days of growth by the way. The problem is I get the gha hiding in the small crevasses of the rock.
 
yes full tank dosing needs to be done carefully, only after careful visual inspection of pics and a custom plan. Any large water change that comes after a tankwide treatment will help to restore conditions. The peroxide is a ravenous anti bristleworm treatment, not so much pods and stars like ophiuroids/asterinas and worms like sabellid worms they tolerate it well.

Removing the rocks and spot treating will absolutely clean that rock Rye with no side effects. I can see those little pocket areas, emerse it and drip some drops on each patch, wait 3 mins, rinse reinstall. may have to retreat just once more next week, but that will clean each patch of detritus-retaining growth and it will help to stop the self-regeneration of the algae patch once the initial biomass is killed off. peroxide is a perfect, unbeatable treatment for that specific rock Rye
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Yes this was great for spot treatments even inside the tank. I did do a small spot of bryopsis on a high rock and it did turn it white and kill the spot. The tank wide dose does need to be researched more i think, definitley from someone more qualified than myself :) Thanx for the fun Nano forum, i will head back to my side of the tracks :) I was actually here looking at DIY LED builds :) Got sucked in :) Thanx guys! and gals!
 
brandon I've done some research and seen ppl dose 1ml per 10gallons in up and running set ups........thoughts
corey
 
Rye can't wait for the pics you will really like it. effects will be seen in 24 hours or overnite.

biecacka yes it surely does work, but since thats the mode which broadcasts peroxide to sensitive species I hardly ever recommend it because its more helpful to have a guaranteed successful mode with no tank loss (external spot treatment)

on some of the tanks Ive seen considering peroxide use, a whole tank dose with follow up water change would be the best attack mode but its still better to dislodge/temporarily remove the rocks for max safety and in most cases I know those tanks need detritus removal under the rocks anyway as future algae control

As frog mentioned you can get some massive fireworm kill with broadcast dosing and this may not be all bad...I hate em but the boxer crab ate them all before peroxide caused any loss.

If you don't mind stress or loss to xenia, fireworms, cleaner shrimp and decorative macros broadcast treatments can work just don't overdo them. under dose them and make things take a little longer out of safety.
 
Ryeguyy's upcoming tank shot is a prime example of the thesis in this thread.

Not all algae removal is about making great water params greater.

We've been robbed of manual removal options over the years due the 'natural only'/hands off' trend of reefkeeping which allowed X pest to inhabit/take over a tank and we weren't allowed to do anything other than add more nitrogen producing animals or try and squeeze out the last picogram of phosphate in order to battle it.

Not every tank needs algae control. Agu's tank makes me green with jealousy he doesn't have to tediously work a tank that old :) where Im a peroxide user to keep 'scape but the truth exists that in a HUGE amount of tanks with spot algae problems, you just needed an easier way to focus on the main biomass occasionally to totally solve your problem.

Im not anti-clean up crew, Im just pro manual removal and in my opinion peroxide and the before/after pics I hope to compile here are the bees knees.

I asked Newman for his permission last year to repost these as needed to help others w peroxide use-
spot treatment before and after green hair algae, zoathids/palythoa unaffected by direct spot treatment:
 

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i have a 220 with some xenia in it......would it help to dose less longer to try and not kill them??
corey
 
Don't know. but those low lying/blanketing grows are better removed with a siphon hose that has jagged teeth cut into the end to use as a scraper while it runs.
try to get most of the biomass that way, rely less on peroxide for this kind of invader.


Ive had the same growth in my tank...increased flow + water changes plus manual removal did the trick.
If that were my tank Id also up the water changes, use GFO in a filter and reduce my fish bioload if possible. but thats just my opinion. all tanks benefit from that action.

biecacka
its hard to say, any tank containing xenia needs to plan on losing it with systemic dosing. There are tanks on the nano reef thread that did it without losing colonies, but across forums I see its all just hit or miss when dosing the whole tank. it depends on how mad you are at the target if you do it post pics~Id have to go back and re read the nano reef thread to get the dosages they are using, 1ml per 10 gallons maybe? Id do half for starters and ramp up if the tank was bad enough and conventional options failed.

Reefmiser's tank in the very opening shot of the nr thread is a tankwide dosing, wiped his whole tank free of bryopsis in a couple rounds, not removing any corals or fish.
 
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Haven't forgotten about this thread just been busy. I spot treated and it worked.

I will try and get pics up this week to show before and after shots.
 
My pics are coming as well. It's working but I need one more treatment. The really dense areas are all stringy.
 
ok thanks.
I'm on my second day of 20ml(1 ml per 10gallons, 220 plus sump less rock is around 200) and I'm yet to see anything good or bad. but I'm aware that it could take a few days. I'm going to try it for a wk...
corey
 
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