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[RaviC]

All above are fine except the sixline. Yes, a hawkfish will eat shrimp. As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions but would be very happy to reevaluate any stocking plan.

Ok. Thanks for the input. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be geting rid of the 6-line. I'll keep an eye on my hermits and I'll get rid of them if they get out of hand.

Thanks again

 

[Bike2k]

This is what I have:
I have a 75g with 20L sump in which 1/3 of the sump is a refugium with a 4" sand bed with Chaeto. I have 85.5 lbs of now LR in the DT. Currently it is a FOWLR but I will be adding corals once the water is stable enough.

Is this list OK?:
(1) - Kole Tang - it is my showpiece, Great fish

The remaining occupants:
(2) - Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish
(2) - Kaudern's Cardinals
(1) - Skunk cleaner shrimp
(2) - small blue legged hermits
(1) - small cortez hermit
(1) - Large red legged hermit
(1) YWG and a pistol shrimp

I am looking to add a
(1) - One spot Foxface

Your thoughts and comments on this list would be very appreciated.

Again, thanks in advance.

 

[DMBFan]

Can I add the following and will they get along?
1 Kaudern's Cardinal (Pterapogon kauderni)
1 Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
3 Zebra Barred Dartfish (Ptereleotris zebra)

Currently:
Scopas Tang
Blue Hippo Tang
2 clowns
The LFS called the last one a "cat-eel". Bottom feeder.
Sugar-sized sand bed
40 gallon sump with Cheato, rubble, skimmer
I believe the rest is in my sig

 

[snorvich]

Hi Steve...thanks for your comments and suggestions. I'm interested in your perspective on why you don't keep crabs of any type. Have you written a blog post about the subject by any chance? Personally, I find them a bit creepy (I have a spider phobia and crabs remind me of spiders) and I know they can go after snails and corals but I keep them because that's what everybody says you need for your CUC.

Again, thanks for your comments and if there's anything else you can share about why it's not a good idea to keep crabs I'd appreciate it!

No, I have not done a blog post on "why not crabs" but the long and short of it, is that they (with very few exceptions) are opportunistic feeders. Many crabs can take fish, hermit crabs kill snails for their shells, etc. The only exception for me is porcelain crabs.

 

[snorvich]

This is what I have:
I have a 75g with 20L sump in which 1/3 of the sump is a refugium with a 4" sand bed with Chaeto. I have 85.5 lbs of now LR in the DT. Currently it is a FOWLR but I will be adding corals once the water is stable enough.

Is this list OK?:
(1) - Kole Tang - it is my showpiece, Great fish

The remaining occupants:
(2) - Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish
(2) - Kaudern's Cardinals
(1) - Skunk cleaner shrimp
(2) - small blue legged hermits
(1) - small cortez hermit
(1) - Large red legged hermit
(1) YWG and a pistol shrimp

This list is fine but I do not like hermit crabs

I am looking to add a
(1) - One spot Foxface In a 75 gallon tank, I would not add a second grazer

Your thoughts and comments on this list would be very appreciated.

Again, thanks in advance.

 

[snorvich]

Can I add the following and will they get along?
1 Kaudern's Cardinal (Pterapogon kauderni)
1 Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
3 Zebra Barred Dartfish (Ptereleotris zebra)

Currently:
Scopas Tang
Blue Hippo Tang reef centrals tank size recommendation is 240 gallons
2 clowns
The LFS called the last one a "cat-eel". Bottom feeder. I have no idea what that is, do you have the real name
Sugar-sized sand bed
40 gallon sump with Cheato, rubble, skimmer
I believe the rest is in my sig

 

[DMBFan]

I want to add the following:

1 Kaudern's Cardinal (Pterapogon kauderni)
1 Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
3 Zebra Barred Dartfish (Ptereleotris zebra)

Will these guys get along?

 

[snorvich]

I want to add the following:

1 Kaudern's Cardinal (Pterapogon kauderni)
1 Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
3 Zebra Barred Dartfish (Ptereleotris zebra)

Will these guys get along?

Yes. The protocol I use here is commenting only on behavioral issues that are a problem, hence no annotation in the previous answer. Sorry, I should have been more explicit. P. fridmani is slightly on the aggressive side but it the least aggressive of the pseudochromis.

 

[DMBFan]

Thank you!

The "cat-eel" is a Striped Eel Catfish (Plotosus lineatus)

 

[shawpanther23]

This is a 245gal fowlr community tank with a 115 gal sump with 320 lbs of liverock and 180 lbs of livesand.
Would like to keep multiple Tangs if possible. I have listed a few that I like but am open to any advice or suggestions of others that may be more peaceful. Thank You
fish I have now:
1-mated pair of percula clownfish
1-one spot foxface

Intended Fish:
Hippo Tang
Naso Tang
Sailfin Tang
Mimic Tang
Powder Blue Tang
Majestic Angel
Annularis Angel
Blue Ring Angel
Coral Beauty
Raccoon Butterfly
Heniochus Butterfly
Threadfin Butterfly
Saddleback Butterfly
Pakistan Butterfly
Harliquin Tusk
Dog face puffer
Niger Trigger

 

[StuartHB21]

Stocking a 65g Red Sea Max 250

Stocking a 65g Red Sea Max 250

I'm in the process of stocking my Red Sea Max 250 which has been running for over 2 months now. My goal is to stock Reef Safe fish that are colorful and at the same time have tank mates that are compatible. Want to eventually add some assorted corals.

My tank has approximately 50 lbs of Live Rock with hiding places.
I have turbo snails and an assortment of hermit crabs at the moment plus
a pair of clownfish and an orange spot goby.
Need suggestions as a stocking plan moving forward. Want colors

1. Royal Gramma Basset
2. Flame Dwarf Angel
3. Longnose Hawkfish? Would I have problem with my Orange Spot Goby? He is 2 inches long and has hiding places.
4. The pseudos and damels are too aggressive.

Advice please

Thanks

 

[snorvich]

Thank you!

The "cat-eel" is a Striped Eel Catfish (Plotosus lineatus)

Probably not a good fish to try and keep. Your LFS gave bad advice on purchasing this.

 

[snorvich]

This is a 245gal fowlr community tank with a 115 gal sump with 320 lbs of liverock and 180 lbs of livesand.
Would like to keep multiple Tangs if possible. I have listed a few that I like but am open to any advice or suggestions of others that may be more peaceful.

First of all you are going to need a robust quarantine protocol as some of these fish are highly susceptible to bringing in parasites. (My blog has one I would suggest). Next of all, in looking at your fish list, you are going to need to realize that your tank, while not small, is also not really large. Mixing tangs is very tricky because as they grow, their perception of their required territory also grows. When fish feel "cramped", they reduce the number of their roommates. There are some fish that simply require more room than you have even if they did not have fish occupying the same ecological niche.

Thank You
fish I have now:
1-mated pair of percula clownfish
1-one spot foxface

Intended Fish:
Hippo Tang as it grows, will get ornery with other tangs
Naso Tang requires a larger tank
Sailfin Tang
Mimic Tang
Powder Blue Tang
Majestic Angel Two large angels, pick two
Annularis Angel
Blue Ring Angel
Coral Beauty
Raccoon Butterfly all of these butterfly fish will work, but they need rigorous quarantine
Heniochus Butterfly
Threadfin Butterfly
Saddleback Butterfly
Pakistan Butterfly
Harliquin Tusk
Dog face puffer I would not do this one or the trigger due to aggression; niger triggers can be either fairly passive or highly aggressive
Niger Trigger

 

[snorvich]

I'm in the process of stocking my Red Sea Max 250 which has been running for over 2 months now. My goal is to stock Reef Safe fish that are colorful and at the same time have tank mates that are compatible. Want to eventually add some assorted corals.

My tank has approximately 50 lbs of Live Rock with hiding places.
I have turbo snails and an assortment of hermit crabs at the moment plus
a pair of clownfish and an orange spot goby.
Need suggestions as a stocking plan moving forward. Want colors

1. Royal Gramma Basset
2. Flame Dwarf Angel
3. Longnose Hawkfish? Would I have problem with my Orange Spot Goby? He is 2 inches long and has hiding places. long nose hawkfish will eat shrimp and small fish, but your two inch goby is large enough to be safe
4. The pseudos and damels are too aggressive. The only pseudochromis that may work is P. fridmani but I would avoid damsels and other pseudochromis

Advice please

Thanks

 

[LGB76]

I am trying to figure out my stock for my tank. 125 gallon tank with 55 gallon sump. 110 pounds of pukani and reefsaver rock from BRS.

I am fully aware that most of these fish minimum tank size is 125 gallons.

tangs
Yellow Tang
Powder Blue Tang
Powder Brown Tang

Butterfly
Longfin Banner
Copperband
Threadfin

Clown fish
2 tank bred Ocellaris

Dwarf Angel
Bio-Color
Flame Angel

the more aggerssive ones will be added very last. In over a years time.
I am fully aware that my tank will be stocked pretty high and have the equipment to compensate for it. It will be most FOWLR with very few corals as time goes along. I am also aware that some of these are not reef compatible and will be monitoring very carefully.

 

[LGB76]

err double post

 

[snorvich]

I am trying to figure out my stock for my tank. 125 gallon tank with 55 gallon sump. 110 pounds of pukani and reefsaver rock from BRS.

I am fully aware that most of these fish minimum tank size is 125 gallons.

tangs
Yellow Tang
Powder Blue Tang
Powder Brown Tang

Butterfly
Longfin Banner
Copperband
Threadfin

Clown fish
2 tank bred Ocellaris

Dwarf Angel
Bio-Color
Flame Angel

the more aggerssive ones will be added very last. In over a years time.
I am fully aware that my tank will be stocked pretty high and have the equipment to compensate for it. It will be most FOWLR with very few corals as time goes along. I am also aware that some of these are not reef compatible and will be monitoring very carefully.

If your question is whether or not you are likely to be successful with those three tangs in a 125 gallon tank, my answer is that it would be highly unlikely long term. Superb equipment handles bioloading related issues but has no value on behavioral related issues associated with fish occupying the same ecological niche.

 

[LGB76]

If your question is whether or not you are likely to be successful with those three tangs in a 125 gallon tank, my answer is that it would be highly unlikely long term. Superb equipment handles bioloading related issues but has no value on behavioral related issues associated with fish occupying the same ecological niche.

Should I not purchase a tang period or just house 1 or 2 of them? What about the butterfly fish or others mentioned.

 

[snorvich]

Should I not purchase a tang period or just house 1 or 2 of them? What about the butterfly fish or others mentioned.

One of those tangs should work. My least favorite would be the yellow tang as they can be very mean. The butterfly fish are a marginal behavioral issue but copperbands are a low probability success issue under the best of circumstances. With the fish you are looking at you will need to develop a rigorous quarantine protocol similar to the one I mention in my blog.

 

[AWDcameoLSX]

Right now I have a 6 line wrasse and 3 hermits. I was going to fallow with:

1: Kole tang and a couple more hermit crabs
2: Pair of clowns
3: Blue reef cromis (maybe 2 or a cardinal at the same time)
4: Foxface

That is pretty much as heavy as I want to go with livestock. Just want a double check if that will work out alright without the fish fighting one another. If I can get my pod population high enough I might get a mandarin goby. These where my additions by month. I will quarantine for 4 weeks at a time at a minimum. After the livestock is introduced it might be time for corals.