PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

I believe they are Ocellaris clownfish but not positive. Can't really tell the difference between them and Percula. Would I not be able to add anymore fish at this point unless I remove them?

It is one of the downsides to pairs of clowns in small tanks. A. ocellaris and A. percula are the least aggressive. Small docile fish may be ok, but as the clownfish continue to mature, they can be a problem for some kinds of fish.

 

[Gagonzalez]

Could I remove them and add a new single Percula along with 3 Blue Chromis and a six line Wrasse at the same time? That may solve my issues. Thank You for your advice.

 

[snorvich]

Could I remove them and add a new single Percula along with 3 Blue Chromis and a six line Wrasse at the same time? That may solve my issues. Thank You for your advice.

A single clownfish will become female, and while not as aggressive as a bonded pair or mated pair, still semi-aggressive. I already provided advice on the undesirability of six line wrasses as well as the end result of multiple chromis.

 

[JerkinJohn]

Originally Posted by JerkinJohn View Post
90 gal display/20 gal long diy 3 chamber sump/50lb BRS dry rock aquascape/4" sand substrate in DT/3" sand in refug with Chaeto. Mixed reef

Currently still going through cycle.

My list. Numbers will vary but any input will be greatly appreciated

Threadfin Anthias/Nemanthias carberryi one only in this sized tank

Royal Gramma/Gramma loreto

Yellow Assessor/Assessor flavissimus

Banggai Cardinalfish/Pterapogon kauderni one or a male plus female pair; be sure they are tank raised

Ocellaris Anemonefish/Amphiprion ocellaris one or two, small

Blackaxil Chromis/Chromis atripectoralis

Midas Blenny/Ecsenius midas only one blenny, pick among your two noted

Lawnmower Blenny/Salarias Fasciatus only one blenny, pick among your two noted


Green Mandarinfish/Synchiropus splendidus once tank is mature, at least nine months

Fire Goby/Nemateleotris magnifica introduce first

Goldring Bristletooth/Ctenochaetus strigosus

I am going to be introducing the Firefish soon and was wondering if 2 of the Nemateleotris magnifica and 2 Nemateleotris decora would be okay together and add at the same time? Thank you

 

[snorvich]

I am going to be introducing the Firefish soon and was wondering if 2 of the Nemateleotris magnifica and 2 Nemateleotris decora would be okay together and add at the same time? Thank you

No. Unless you accidentally find a bonded pair of firefish, only one long term will survive. Unfortunately, there is no morphological difference between males and females. So, long term, four will likely become one.

 

[Reefneophyte007]

I am in the process of cycling a 200g tank 48x36x27. I plan on introducing a PB tang, Purple Tang and Sailfin tang all at the same time. I have read multiple times that tangs should be introduced at the same time. My question is three fold.

1) Is the tank size/dimensions ok for the three tangs mentioned?

2) Are these 3 tangs ok to have together?

3) Finally, after spending the last 3 hours in the quarantine forums, I began thinking how am I going to quarantine 3 tangs at the same time in a 29g QT tank?

 

[snorvich]

I am in the process of cycling a 200g tank 48x36x27. I plan on introducing a PB tang, Purple Tang and Sailfin tang all at the same time. I have read multiple times that tangs should be introduced at the same time.

That is absolutely correct, tangs should be introduced together. However, I would suggest that these should NOT be your first three fish as the tank will be immature and these fish are grazers.

My question is three fold.

1) Is the tank size/dimensions ok for the three tangs mentioned?

The tang which is behaviorally most sensitive to tank length is the Powder Blue, I would prefer them in a longer tank, ideally six feet minimum. Remember their native environment is one of high surge. Also a sailfin tang will exceed one foot, which will look strange in a four foot tank.

2) Are these 3 tangs ok to have together?

I would not put those three in a 48 inch tank. Three different tangs would work, however. Remember tank size and tangs is a function of how they perceive their territory. If they feel cramped, they will reduce their number.

3) Finally, after spending the last 3 hours in the quarantine forums, I began thinking how am I going to quarantine 3 tangs at the same time in a 29g QT tank?

I am very glad you are going to use a quarantine protocol. While not the subject for this thread (and I do not answer questions here on it), read my blog for a suggested quarantine protocol, or alternatively read the Fish Disease Forum stickies about Tank Transfer.

 

[RDuhb]

Here are my tank specs:
75 Gallon DT
40 Gallon Sump w/fuge
70 lbs dry rock
10 lbs live rock
Skimmer

Here is my livestock choice:
3 - Chromis
2 - Clown
1 - Yellow Watchman Goby
1 - Kole Yellow Eye Tang
1 - Royal Gramma
1 - Melanurus Wrasse
1 - Banggai Cardinal

So what do you think?? If it looks ok, what order should they be added to the DT?

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RedToothTrigger]

New To Marine

New To Marine

Okay so I just finished cycling my tank it is a 75gal with a 405 fluval and some sort of large emperor I lost the box so not exact what size but it is the largest one they have have about 70 lbs of live rock 2 40 gal power heads I have 10 small hermit crabs and 3 nerite snails I just bought a 2 1/2 in Papua Toby puffer yesterday he's doing great as of right now he's been eating mysis shrimp and he is very active swimming in and out of tw caves and all through the tank , so... I wanted to have the Papuan Toby puffer, a redtooth trigger fish, and a yellow longnose butterfly fish...I've seen that there were two types of longnose butterfly fish I want the longernose butterfly fish any opinions, Dante.

 

[snorvich]

Here are my tank specs:
75 Gallon DT
40 Gallon Sump w/fuge
70 lbs dry rock
10 lbs live rock
Skimmer

Here is my livestock choice:
3 - Chromis chromis will winnow down until there is at most a pair, most likely only one; also, they have not been coming in healthy recently
2 - Clown
1 - Yellow Watchman Goby
1 - Kole Yellow Eye Tang
1 - Royal Gramma
1 - Melanurus Wrasse
1 - Banggai Cardinal

So what do you think?? If it looks ok, what order should they be added to the DT?

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

Order is always most passive first, most aggressive last.

 

[snorvich]

Okay so I just finished cycling my tank it is a 75gal with a 405 fluval and some sort of large emperor I lost the box so not exact what size but it is the largest one they have have about 70 lbs of live rock 2 40 gal power heads I have 10 small hermit crabs and 3 nerite snails I just bought a 2 1/2 in Papua Toby puffer yesterday he's doing great as of right now he's been eating mysis shrimp and he is very active swimming in and out of tw caves and all through the tank , so... I wanted to have the Papuan Toby puffer, a redtooth trigger fish, and a yellow longnose butterfly fish...I've seen that there were two types of longnose butterfly fish I want the longernose butterfly fish any opinions, Dante.

A toby puffer may be aggressive at times, nipping the fins of tank mates, leaving a circular hole as its mark. Its teeth are actually a fused beak-like structure. It will eat invertebrates found in a reef tank. The minimum tank size for a niger trigger is 180 gallons. Both of these are aggressive fish, the niger trigger can be super aggressive. I do not provide commentary on aggressive fish tanks but we have a forum for that and I am sure advice is readily available there.

 

[slajiness]

110 gallon DT with 29 gallon sump
1 clown
1 yellow tang
1 blue hippo
4 damsels
2 rock flower anemones

I want to add something to swift the sand and some kinda reef safe shrimp.

 

[snorvich]

110 gallon DT with 29 gallon sump
1 clown
1 yellow tang
1 blue hippo Reef Central's tank size recommendation for this fish is 240 gallons
4 damsels aggressive and will limit tank mates going forward
2 rock flower anemones

I want to add something to swift the sand and some kinda reef safe shrimp.

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. However, I am happy to reevaluate any stocking list.

 

[xxvietxjustinxx]

90 gallon DT
50 gallon sump
very strong skimmer rated for light bioload of 300 gallons, heavy of 150 (SWC Mini S)
Refugium with chaeto/live rock, shallow sand bed

Current fish
2 clowns
1 mystery wrasse (still docille)
1 pseudochromis (still not aggressive with mystery wrasse)
1 yasha goby
1 2 inch purple tang

Want to buy a school of lyretail. Tank is severely understocked and corals are suffering from it because nitrates are too low. Experienced reefer

Thoughts?

 

[xxvietxjustinxx]

90 gallon DT
50 gallon sump
very strong skimmer rated for light bioload of 300 gallons, heavy of 150 (SWC Mini S)
Refugium with chaeto/live rock, shallow sand bed

Current fish
2 clowns
1 mystery wrasse (still docille)
1 pseudochromis (still not aggressive with mystery wrasse)
1 yasha goby
1 2 inch purple tang

Want to buy a school of lyretail. Tank is severely understocked and corals are suffering from it because nitrates are too low. Experienced reefer

Thoughts?

 

[snorvich]

90 gallon DT
50 gallon sump
very strong skimmer rated for light bioload of 300 gallons, heavy of 150 (SWC Mini S)
Refugium with chaeto/live rock, shallow sand bed

Current fish
2 clowns
1 mystery wrasse (still docille) Long term, I am concerned about this fish in conjunction with any pseudochromis
1 pseudochromis (still not aggressive with mystery wrasse)
1 yasha goby
1 2 inch purple tang

Want to buy a school of lyretail. Tank is severely understocked and corals are suffering from it because nitrates are too low. Experienced reefer

Any grouping of anthias require multiple smallish feedings per day due to their high metabolism. I am assuming that you are SPS oriented if you are concerned with coral feeding so hopefully you would have sufficient flow to make anthias happy. But, anthias will not really "school" and normally I would prefer a 125 gallon tank for any more than three. The issue is a subtle one, and that is anthias are always trying to become male and herd their harem of females. In a larger (longer) tank, segregation of the groupings is possible, in a shorter tank, less so. The smaller the number in the group, the greater this instinct. I am not telling you not to do it, but I am not sure you will like the longer term consequences. If all become male, there will be aggression.

Thoughts?

 

[JerkinJohn]

No. Unless you accidentally find a bonded pair of firefish, only one long term will survive. Unfortunately, there is no morphological difference between males and females. So, long term, four will likely become one.

Yesterday evening I added my first fish. Four Chromis atripectoralis ( small ) and one Nemateleotris magnifica. I didn't want to just add one firefish for starters because I wanted to get some sort of bio load going. My girl is begging me to put in two Amphiprion ocellaris. As you mentioned to me before they would be small. Will it matter whether or not I wait to add the clowns or is there a risk here that can be avoided by being more patient? I am concerned that the clowns may pick on the firefish.

I hope I'm not being a pain in the neck :rollface: Just want to do things as best I can to have a happy healthy aquarium. Thanks

 

[snorvich]

Yesterday evening I added my first fish. Four Chromis atripectoralis ( small ) and one Nemateleotris magnifica. I didn't want to just add one firefish for starters because I wanted to get some sort of bio load going.

Four chromis will almost certainly become one over time; also, since you do not quarantine, I sure hope rolling the dice works out for you.

There is no "bioload advantage" from adding more than one fish. In this hobby nothing good ever happens quickly. Learn patience. Unless the firefish are male plus female, one will perish.

My girl is begging me to put in two Amphiprion ocellaris. As you mentioned to me before they would be small. Will it matter whether or not I wait to add the clowns or is there a risk here that can be avoided by being more patient? I am concerned that the clowns may pick on the firefish.

Until the clownfish are more mature, they should be fairly docile.

I hope I'm not being a pain in the neck :rollface: Just want to do things as best I can to have a happy healthy aquarium. Thanks

 

[motojoe1988]

60 gallon 4ft
2 occ clowns paired.
1 purple firefish
1 tail spot bleenie

What I want to add.
Exquisite Fairy Wrasse*(Cirrhilabrus exquisitus)
Bluehead Fairy Wrasse*(Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura)
Multicolor Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse(Cirrhilabrus lubbocki
Orange-Back Fairy Wrasse*(Cirrhilabrus aurantidorsalis)

Can I add any of these wrasse? What about female wrasse how many? Species?

 

[JerkinJohn]

Thank you... I only got one firefish. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I absolutely am planning a QT. I'm very limited on space at the moment. I'm not much of a gambler although lady luck has kissed me once or twice. That's a shame that the chromis will narrow down to one. I see them in schools a lot and took for granted that they would be fine.

Thank you again