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[snorvich]

Hello I posted this earlier on the Aggressive tank/Fowlr part of the forum, guess I should have posted it here instead.

Yes, they probably did not supply many answers.

Possible FOWLR tank:
59.1x19.7x19.7 weighing in at 99.33 gallons.
This tank will be sumpless if I decide to go for it.

While I prefer using a sump because of oxygenation, if infeasible a HOB skimmer can work


It's the first time I've considered SW but I thought it would be easier to build the tank system around the stock to suit their needs.

I planned to stock it with the following fish.
Ocellaris Clownfish 1-2. 2 if I can get ahold of a pair, 1 if not.

If you can find two very small A. ocellaris, creating a pair is easy. Look for one inch or thereabouts

Flame angel, Centopogyne loriculus (current stand in). The other Dwarf Angels I've looked at are Bicolor and Coral Beauty.

The coloration and behavior of C. loriculus is superb. In your sized tank, two dwarf angels is possible if introduced concurrently. Coral beauty are also pretty with the same behavior characteristics

Yellow tang, Zebrasoma flavescens OR Tomini Tang, Ctenochaetus tominiensis. ONE of these not both.

I always opt for Ctenochaetus family tangs. Zebrasoma family can be more aggressive towards other tank mates

Does this look like a good stock with a good HOB skimmer?
Could I add some sort of Goby or Wrasse to this setup?

Looks fine to me. If you add a wrasse be aware of their jumping propensity which may be problematic unless you can completely cover your tank. A goby would be a fine addition; if you plan sand, a goby/shrimp commensal relationship is interesting

 

[Yschen]

Didn't know I could add 2 small clowns and they would pair up. Do they do this on their own or could the potentially harm/kill eachother?

I don't wish to have a much sand in the tank, just an inch for aesthetics. Would that still be enough for a Goby?

In what order should I add the fish?

On the subject of the sump, how big a sump would I need for this tank? I'm worried about the weight of the whole system since I want to be able to take it with me when I move, and not be worried about it going through the floor.
Yes I know it's quite silly.

 

[snorvich]

Didn't know I could add 2 small clowns and they would pair up. Do they do this on their own or could the potentially harm/kill eachother?

Assuming they are small (non-sexually differentiated) and the same size, no problem. They will go through a bonding phase where the female begins being a female and dominating the male into submission (which is an interesting little dance on his part; reminds me of some humans)

I don't wish to have a much sand in the tank, just an inch for aesthetics. Would that still be enough for a Goby?

yes

In what order should I add the fish?

always most aggressive last which in your case is a tang

On the subject of the sump, how big a sump would I need for this tank? I'm worried about the weight of the whole system since I want to be able to take it with me when I move, and not be worried about it going through the floor. 30 gallons or there abouts; saltwater weighs about 8+ lbs per gallon
Yes I know it's quite silly.

 

[mikeyVR4]

Hello,

Specs:
75 Gallon tank (75lbs of Live Rock)
20 Gallon Sump (2 lbs - 3 lbs of live rock)
Oolight sand in main tank.
Overflow, etc.

I want to finally add a CuC since my algae levels are up there with Diatoms on rocks and sand bed.

Water Levels:
pH: 8.3
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 10ppm

Tank is roughly 5 weeks established. Already completed a water change and have a blue tang, clown, and Xenia established. Yes I know now it was too early to add anything in there but made the mistake on trusting my LFS which results to one clown dying.

 

[snorvich]

Hello,

Specs:
75 Gallon tank (75lbs of Live Rock)
20 Gallon Sump (2 lbs - 3 lbs of live rock)
Oolight sand in main tank.
Overflow, etc.

I want to finally add a CuC since my algae levels are up there with Diatoms on rocks and sand bed.

Water Levels:
pH: 8.3
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 10ppm

Tank is roughly 5 weeks established. Already completed a water change and have a blue tang, clown, and Xenia established. Yes I know now it was too early to add anything in there but made the mistake on trusting my LFS which results to one clown dying.

And a hepatus tang that Reef Central recommends going in a 240 gallon tank.

 

[mikeyVR4]

And a hepatus tang that Reef Central recommends going in a 240 gallon tank.

Iv'e seen quite a few recommendations. 240 seems a tad overkill and a few people have that size tank and money.

Iv'e seen 75, 90, 125, 240, etc.

 

[snorvich]

Iv'e seen quite a few recommendations. 240 seems a tad overkill and a few people have that size tank and money.

Iv'e seen 75, 90, 125, 240, etc.

I can only give you the reef central recommendation which is found here. . I am not here to argue the value of that recommendation versus those you quote above.

 

[mikeyVR4]

I can only give you the reef central recommendation which is found here. . I am not here to argue the value of that recommendation versus those you quote above.

No arguing here. A different opinion is usually valued within a conversation. I think my quarter-sized blue tang is quite fine in my tank for now. Thanks for caring.

As to my original question, would a CuC be recommended at this point?

 

[telijah]

No arguing here. A different opinion is usually valued within a conversation. I think my quarter-sized blue tang is quite fine in my tank for now. Thanks for caring.

As to my original question, would a CuC be recommended at this point?

Edit: Nothing to see here I guess. I am not staff so I cannot reply to questions, only can ask questions.

 

[mikeyVR4]

I JUST added cuc this past weekend. My tank has been up since mid September'ish. I had two damsels, threw some chromis in there unadvised, and one damsel killed them all. So the damsels went, I added more rock, proper lighting, and 2 clowns a few weeks ago. Then this weekend when I got the yellow clown gobie, I went ahead and added ten snails and ten crabs. It's a nice change in scenery with the cuc in there.

Awesome thanks man! Yeah I cant wait to finally add a CuC to clean my tank. I bet the view is awesome as well.

Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

I JUST added cuc this past weekend. My tank has been up since mid September'ish. I had two damsels, threw some chromis in there unadvised, and one damsel killed them all. So the damsels went, I added more rock, proper lighting, and 2 clowns a few weeks ago. Then this weekend when I got the yellow clown gobie, I went ahead and added ten snails and ten crabs. It's a nice change in scenery with the cuc in there.

This thread is answered by Reef Central Staff only. While we strongly encourage your answering threads anywhere else on Reef Central we would ask that you not answer them here. In any case this thread is about Marine Fish Compatibility not about CUC.

 

[snorvich]

Awesome thanks man! Yeah I cant wait to finally add a CuC to clean my tank. I bet the view is awesome as well.

Thanks!

This thread is answered by Reef Central Staff only. While we strongly encourage your answering threads anywhere else on Reef Central we would ask that you not answer them here and especially not turn this thread into a discussion thread. In any case this thread is about Marine Fish Compatibility not about CUC.

 

[snorvich]

No arguing here. A different opinion is usually valued within a conversation.

Sorry, but this thread is not a conversation, it is an expert thread about marine fish compatibility.

I think my quarter-sized blue tang is quite fine in my tank for now. Thanks for caring.

As to my original question, would a CuC be recommended at this point?

Sorry, this thread is only about marine fish compatibility, please.

 

[telijah]

This thread is answered by Reef Central Staff only. While we strongly encourage your answering threads anywhere else on Reef Central we would ask that you not answer them here. In any case this thread is about Marine Fish Compatibility not about CUC.

Understood. Please have a mod/admin actually put this rule in the OP so others would know. It is not clearly stated that only questions should be asked and only mod/admin/"staff" will give answers.

To any admin/mod who reads this, feel free to remove this post if the rule is added to the OP. Thanks!

 

[Wretch]

Steve thanks for providing everyone with your expertise.

50g(36x18x18) DT 30g Sump(15g usable), Vertex IN80, 50lbs live rock, 1.5" of sand
Mixed reef mostly Zoas and LPS.

Carpenters Flasher Wrasse(2 or 3) added 1st
Starcki Damsel
Indigo Dottyback(dottybacks added at the same time?)
Orchid Dottyback
Black Percula Clown

thanks for the help.

 

[snorvich]

Steve thanks for providing everyone with your expertise.

You are most welcome. I enjoy giving back to the hobby.

50g(36x18x18) DT 30g Sump(15g usable), Vertex IN80, 50lbs live rock, 1.5" of sand
Mixed reef mostly Zoas and LPS.

Carpenters Flasher Wrasse(2 or 3) added 1st A male and one or more female would work well, but remember that these are prolific jumpers so you will need a tightly closed top with 1/4 inch holes
Starcki Damsel
Indigo Dottyback(dottybacks added at the same time?)
Orchid Dottyback Dottybacks, in general are very aggressive and not compatible with flasher or fairy wrasses. Some people have had success with P. fridmani (Orchid Dottyback) but that is a roll of the dice.
Black Percula Clown

thanks for the help.

 

[loccusst]

The wife and I are new to the reef scene. Running a 120 gallon long tank that's been up and running for a few years as a fish only tank with several pounds of live rock. I have a few hermit crabs for clean up crew. I already have 1 each of the following in the tank and want to know if there are any coral out there that I can put in.

Koran
Emperor
Coral Beauty
Dragon Goby
Typical Percula
Banner Butterfly (Heniochus)
Niger Trigger

 

[snorvich]

The wife and I are new to the reef scene. Running a 120 gallon long tank that's been up and running for a few years as a fish only tank with several pounds of live rock. I have a few hermit crabs for clean up crew. I already have 1 each of the following in the tank and want to know if there are any coral out there that I can put in.

Koran
Emperor
Coral Beauty
Dragon Goby
Typical Percula
Banner Butterfly (Heniochus)
Niger Trigger

It is a roll of the dice with any corals except noxious tasting LPS corals such as those in the frogspawn family. Your emperor angel, at the very least, will need a larger tank.

 

[loccusst]

It is a roll of the dice with any corals except noxious tasting LPS corals such as those in the frogspawn family. Your emperor angel, at the very least, will need a larger tank.

Thanks for your advice. We are planning on getting a much bigger tank in a few years...looking at about a 300 gallon. Everyone in the tank is juvenile so we have a little time. We have other smaller tanks in the house and I guess we will just stick with those for now for Reef tanks.

 

[telijah]

Hi Steve,

I just now noticed you did reply to my inquiry about getting the yellow clown gobies and suggested two was a bad idea. I ended up getting two as I did not see your reply. For the past 5 days, the two have seen fine, they're pretty inactive fish and have stayed away from each other it seems, and the two percs do not seem to be bothering them. Might I be OK or is there some sort of signs of problems I should watch out for?

To recap, I only had the 2 perculas and about 40lbs of rock in my 40 gallon breeder.

Thanks!