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[snorvich]

well i am upgrading to a 180rr from my 75 rr..... i currently have a pair of clowns, mystery wrasse and a yellow watchmen goby/pistol shrimp...

once the tank is set up and running i would like to add the following.. not in order.
- Powder blue tang prefers a fair amount of flow
- Naso tang sorry, but all species of naso tang need a larger tank
- Lawnmower blenny
- FlameHawk fish
- Marine betta nocturnal, can eat small fish
- Blackcap basslet
- Diamond goby
- one spot foxface

 

[snorvich]

Here is my revised list for a 75 gallon tank:

1 Firefish (Nemateleotris magnifica) can be intimidated by some wrasses
1 Anthias (not sure which one)
1 Royal Gramma Basslet (Gramma loreto)
1 Blennies (not sure which ones) only one
2 Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris)
2 Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris var.)

only one pair of clownfish in moderately sized tanks

1 Clown Goby, Brown (Gobiodon spp.)
1 Orange Spotted Goby (Amblyeleotris guttata)
1 Wrasse (not sure which one)
1 Kole Yellow Eye Tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)

bioload may be a little heavy

 

[snorvich]

Been out of the hobby for a couple years, so a little out of touch on these things, and my previous tank was small so stocking it was easy when you pretty much have a dozen choices.

My new set up is the 4x2x2 120 falling with a 40 gallon breeder as the refugium. Right now it is running 2x250 halides but will be LEDs soon. My main love is corals and it will be a mixed reef. Will still need some more like in it so fish and inverts will be a must.

Wish list:

purple tang should be added last as zebrasoma tangs, once established prevent some other fish being added
Flame angel (unlikely due to possible danger to corals) most dangerous to meaty lps corals but generally not reef safe
Pair of clowns most likely plain memo type clowns.
Fairy wrasses....this is where I have questions....how many can I have together, and do they all need to be the same kind, or will they prefer variety...

While I do not recommend fish (for a variety of reasons), it depends on which ones, whether they will coexist peaceful. In general, blue based coloration species tend to me more aggressive. Based on the visibility issue discussed below, flasher wrasses should be considered instead.

Firefish ...thinking purple fire fish, I have read no more than two together?

a mated pair is the maximum, introduced early on as they are easily intimidated

And a sand sifting goby or yellow watchman goby..... If your orientation is corals, do not get any sand sifting fish. The watchman is fine, however.

Maybe a blenny of some sort.

I'm open to suggestions too, my tank is highly visible due to my wife running a child care from home, so pretty and active fish are wanted.

 

[snorvich]

Yellow Tang and Blue Hippo Tang ok inside a 120g (48x24x24) tank ok?

Well P. hepatus really needs a much larger tank (RC recommends a 240 gallon tank minimum) and a yellow tang or any zebrasoma tang will not be happy with other tangs in that sized tank.

 

[Sasquatchluvin]

Thanks

 

[gsiegel]

Great forum Steve.

I have a 300 gallon fish only set up

The current stock is:
3 blue/green chromis
2 black/white oscellaris
mated pair of golden headed sleeper gobies
magnificant fox face
blond naso
mimic tang
christmas wrasse
exquisite wrasse

My future plans include the following (will not add all but this is my current roadmap/possible wishlist):
Possibly another vibrant wrasse - solorensis, radiant, mccosker
Flame angel (asking for trouble if I add a larger angel later though?)
Another Tang? - powder brown/pacific blue/yellow belly regal blue
A smaller puffer - toby? saddle valentini?
Mated pair of bellus angels
Anenome-sea bay or carpet in this tank?? (I do have excellent lighting - vega led's)
Austrailian Harlequin tusk - i know will eat crabs/shrimp
Pakistan Butterfly
Blue jaw trigger (or possibly a mated pair)
Blue face or $cribbled angel

Thanks for your input. Thoughts on the order to add them and also how long would you typically wait between adding the fish?

Thanks so much!

 

[snorvich]

Great forum Steve.

I have a 300 gallon fish only set up

The current stock is:
3 blue/green chromis In the last year and a half, these have been coming in less than healthy; I hope yours are fine
2 black/white oscellaris
mated pair of golden headed sleeper gobies It is difficult to maintain these fish long term as they often starve to death
magnificant fox face
blond naso Unfortunately, this really needs and 8 foot tank minimum, so I hope your tank is long
mimic tang
christmas wrasse
exquisite wrasse

My future plans include the following (will not add all but this is my current roadmap/possible wishlist):
Possibly another vibrant wrasse - solorensis, radiant, mccosker

C. solorensis is on the aggressive side, the other two are fine

Flame angel (asking for trouble if I add a larger angel later though?) No, should not be an issue
Another Tang? - powder brown/pacific blue/yellow belly regal blue IU have reservations about hepatus tangs from an aggressive perspective, the others are fine
A smaller puffer - toby? saddle valentini? they are aggressive and can make problems with other fish
Mated pair of bellus angels
Anenome-sea bay or carpet in this tank?? (I do have excellent lighting - vega led's) carpets are nice but do eat fish
Austrailian Harlequin tusk - i know will eat crabs/shrimp true, as well as small fish; I do like this fish, however
Pakistan Butterfly
Blue jaw trigger (or possibly a mated pair)
Blue face or $cribbled angel

Some of the fish on your list are highly susceptible to parasites so I hope you have a good quarantine protocol; always add the most aggressive last

Thanks for your input. Thoughts on the order to add them and also how long would you typically wait between adding the fish?

Thanks so much!

 

[FLSteve]

New 55 gal FOWLR With intentions of having some corals in the future. 1" sandbed 60 lbs LR. Finished cycle 8 wks ago. HOB dual bio wheel filter.
Current inhabitants,
CUC of various Nassarius, Cerith and Nerite snails
1 sm Ocellaris Clownfish
2 sm Blue/Green Chromis. Purchased 6 wks ago before finding this forum and learning of their known issues. Had 3, one was sucked into power head first day in tank. Other 2 appear healthy and are very active together. If they have Uronema would obvious symptoms be showing by now?

Fish List, unsure of order and if too lg of bio load.
1 Red Mandarin (Synchiropus cf. splendidus)
1 Royal Gramma Basslet (Gramma loreto)
1 Sailfin/Algae Blenny (Salarias fasciatus)
1 White Banded Possum Wrasse (Wetmorella albofasciata)
1 Pygmy (Cherub) Angelfish (Centropyge argi)

Your time and expertise is greatly appreciated, just wish I would have found this forum sooner.

 

[Alohadood]

75 gallon, 20 gallon sump, 10 gallon refugium and about 5 more gallons of filtration tanks (water filters re purposed in series for various purposes) ~80 lbs live rock. shallow sand bed (inch and a half)

Sump runs 100 micron bags, protein skimmer, and carb remover.

Right now housed:

paired scissor tails
single six line wrasse
three emerald crabs,
two peppermint shrimp
two nassarius snails.
handful of hermits.
couple of feather dusters.
Pistol shrimp.

Looking to add both corals and more fish. Preferably all peaceful or rarely aggressive
fish.

Any thoughts on where to start for either will be appreciated!

 

[JeffBowlin]

Wow, incredible thread!

Newbie, with new build underway; 145gal display tank and 60gal sump/refugium. Planning lots of live rock, and prefer small as opposed to large species. Hope to grow into SPS eventually. These are my favorites, identified and noted over time, and in no particular order. I hope that they become part of my detailed stocking plan, of which you will surely make and mold with your input. Looking for sequence of introduction, compatibility issues and omissions. Hoping the DT size will be of some mitigating consequence with any issues. Be gentle.....

2 Citron Coral Goby (Gobiodon citrinus)
2 Green Coral Goby (Gobiodon histrio)
1 Ranfordi Goby (Amblygobius rainfordi or Koumansetta rainfordi)
1Sunrise Dottyback (Pseudochromis flavivertex)
1 Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
1 Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas)
1 Starry Blenny (Salarias ramosus)
1 Scopas Tang (Zebrasoma scopas)
1 Desjardini Sailfin Tang (Zebrasoma desjardini)
1 Potters Anglefish (Centropyge potteri)
1 Lemonpeel Angel (Centropyge flavissima)
1 Cherub Angel (Centropyge argi)
1 Maroon Clownfish (Premnas biaculeatus)
1 Red Saddleback Clownfish (Amphiprion ephippium)
3 Three Spot Domino Damsel (Dascyllus trimaculatus)
2 Springers Damsel (Chrysiptera springeri)
2 Purple Firefish (Nemateleotris decora)
3 Lyretail Anthias (Pseudanthias squamipinnis)
1 Geometric Pygmy Hawkfish (Plectranthias inermis)

 

[snorvich]

New 55 gal FOWLR With intentions of having some corals in the future. 1" sandbed 60 lbs LR. Finished cycle 8 wks ago. HOB dual bio wheel filter.
Current inhabitants,
CUC of various Nassarius, Cerith and Nerite snails
1 sm Ocellaris Clownfish
2 sm Blue/Green Chromis. Purchased 6 wks ago before finding this forum and learning of their known issues. Had 3, one was sucked into power head first day in tank. Other 2 appear healthy and are very active together. If they have Uronema would obvious symptoms be showing by now?

Not necessarily. Chromis is a male female pair will be ok, but if not, may end up with just one.

Fish List, unsure of order and if too lg of bio load.
1 Red Mandarin (Synchiropus cf. splendidus) Tank size most likely insufficient without an active refugium for this fish;
1 Royal Gramma Basslet (Gramma loreto)
1 Sailfin/Algae Blenny (Salarias fasciatus)
1 White Banded Possum Wrasse (Wetmorella albofasciata)
1 Pygmy (Cherub) Angelfish (Centropyge argi)

All other fish will be fine

Your time and expertise is greatly appreciated, just wish I would have found this forum sooner.

Feel free to check back, many people come back again and again.

 

[snorvich]

75 gallon, 20 gallon sump, 10 gallon refugium and about 5 more gallons of filtration tanks (water filters re purposed in series for various purposes) ~80 lbs live rock. shallow sand bed (inch and a half)

Sump runs 100 micron bags, protein skimmer, and carb remover.

Right now housed:

paired scissor tails
single six line wrasse will be aggressive towards quite a few other fish; normally I do not recommend except as the only fish in a frag tank
three emerald crabs,
two peppermint shrimp
two nassarius snails.
handful of hermits.
couple of feather dusters.
Pistol shrimp. Alpheus Soror? That does not bond with shrimp gobies but Alpheus Randall will.

Looking to add both corals and more fish. Preferably all peaceful or rarely aggressive
fish.

Any thoughts on where to start for either will be appreciated!

I do not provide recommendations for several reasons, the most important of which is I want everyone to develop research skills. I am glad to help with interactive analysis, however.

 

[snorvich]

Wow, incredible thread!

Newbie, with new build underway; 145gal display tank and 60gal sump/refugium. Planning lots of live rock, and prefer small as opposed to large species. Hope to grow into SPS eventually. These are my favorites, identified and noted over time, and in no particular order. I hope that they become part of my detailed stocking plan, of which you will surely make and mold with your input. Looking for sequence of introduction, compatibility issues and omissions.

The general rule is most aggressive last, most passive, first to allow them to get established.

Hoping the DT size will be of some mitigating consequence with any issues. Be gentle.....

I am always gentle but always very straight forward. My goal is to have everyone have a successful and enjoyable experience in the hobby.

2 Citron Coral Goby (Gobiodon citrinus) note that these gobies will eat the slime mucous from SPS corals and in a moderate to small tank can damage the corals; also if they breed the eggs can also damage SPS corals. In small tanks, these gobies do not like conspecifics and will fight. In much larger tanks than yours more than one may be acceptable
2 Green Coral Goby (Gobiodon histrio)
1 Ranfordi Goby (Amblygobius rainfordi or Koumansetta rainfordi) eats copepods so a mature tank is desirable
1Sunrise Dottyback (Pseudochromis flavivertex) all pseudochromis are aggressive with the least aggressive being P. fridmani; unless you have a very large tank, they are not normally a good choice.
1 Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani) see above, certainly not two pseudochromis
1 Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas)
1 Starry Blenny (Salarias ramosus)
1 Scopas Tang (Zebrasoma scopas) two tangs, especially two zebrasoma tangs will be a problem going forward
1 Desjardini Sailfin Tang (Zebrasoma desjardini)
1 Potters Anglefish (Centropyge potteri) dwarf angels are not reef safe
1 Lemonpeel Angel (Centropyge flavissima) dwarf angels are not reef safe [/COLOR
1 Cherub Angel (Centropyge argi) dwarf angels are not reef safe [/COLOR
1 Maroon Clownfish (Premnas biaculeatus) You cannot mix two species of clownfish, especially with Premnas biaculeatus
1 Red Saddleback Clownfish (Amphiprion ephippium)
3 Three Spot Domino Damsel (Dascyllus trimaculatus) extremely aggressive as will be most damsel fish
2 Springers Damsel (Chrysiptera springeri)
2 Purple Firefish (Nemateleotris decora) not with pseudochromis; also two only if male + female bonded pair
3 Lyretail Anthias (Pseudanthias squamipinnis)
1 Geometric Pygmy Hawkfish (Plectranthias inermis)

Hawkfish are not shrimp safe

 

[JeffBowlin]

yeah. That hurt. But I expected it. Thanks!
Tough choices now.

 

[snorvich]

yeah. That hurt. But I expected it. Thanks!
Tough choices now.

Sorry. I do not want you to have problems going forward. However I am always happy to reanalyze any potential stocking lists.

 

[ReefKeeper64]

The true percula that I have already is rather small and is of the black ice variety. I've heard that it is safe to mate up a false percula with a true percula and I'm thinking about doing just this but wanted to ask the expert himself! Is this safe?

 

[snorvich]

The true percula that I have already is rather small and is of the black ice variety. I've heard that it is safe to mate up a false percula with a true percula and I'm thinking about doing just this but wanted to ask the expert himself! Is this safe?

The black ice and other "designer clowns" are morphological varieties of amphiprion percula or amphiprion occellaris. For true mating and bonding it would be best to pair with the same species even if the appearances are different. The bonding process is always a slight roll of the dice; under some circumstances, the female to be does not "like" (no facebook connotation) the male "in training" and kills it. For a more complete discussion of clownfish see Clownfish by Joyce Wilkerson.

 

[Twisted]

Okay, so pair of Firefish.

Yellow Watchman

Pair of clowns

Blenny of some sort.

Couple of Wrasse <flasher variety, which works for me a lot of great colorations>

Purple Tang

And probably introduced in much that same order.

Thank you for the advice. I will do a little more research on the wrasses and see if I can find some specifics on compatibility issues just to be safe. I will also need to look for a suitable Blenny if I decide to add one.

 

[snorvich]

Okay, so pair of Firefish.

Yellow Watchman

Pair of clowns

Blenny of some sort.

Couple of Wrasse <flasher variety, which works for me a lot of great colorations>

Purple Tang

And probably introduced in much that same order.

Thank you for the advice. I will do a little more research on the wrasses and see if I can find some specifics on compatibility issues just to be safe. I will also need to look for a suitable Blenny if I decide to add one.

I think that would be fine. All flasher wrasses except the 8 line Red Sea Flasher Wrasse have similar behavioral characteristics. For best results a male and at least one (or two) females is advised.

 

[bighead]

I have a 90 gal RR 150 Pounds LR 40 gal Sump with fuge wich has a DSB otopus 110 skimmer socks on return
Par Sg 1.024 Temp 78 Cal 420 Am 0 Nitrite 0 nitrate 10 Alk 8.5-9.5

Tank just cycled will be addind clean up crew from Reef Cleaners asst snails and hermits

live stock I would like
Pair of Ocellaris Clowns
Horned blenny
Naso Tang
Copperband Butterfly ?????
Kauderns Cardinal

Inverts
Anemome (not sure what kind somthing for the clowns)
Serpintine Star
Chocalate Chip Star
Longspine Urchin

I do not plan on adding this quickly just passing it by maybe what order I should add and if everything will be happy together

I assume the clean up crew will be first then I dont know