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[Fishypapa]

Hi Steve,

Just a quick question but I was wondering if there were any other "common" (ie what most of see at the LPS that don't get big like a Fox or cost a fortune) that are incompatible with a Royal Gramma Basslet? I have it in with my 2 false percula's and a yellow watchman Goby and it's fine.

I'm thinking at some point perhaps a wrasse and a blenny?

 

[snorvich]

Hi Steve,

Just a quick question but I was wondering if there were any other "common" (ie what most of see at the LPS that don't get big like a Fox or cost a fortune) that are incompatible with a Royal Gramma Basslet? I have it in with my 2 false percula's and a yellow watchman Goby and it's fine.

I'm thinking at some point perhaps a wrasse and a blenny?

Please provide tank size and complete stocking plan when asking questions; I do thousands of these and my memory for what people have is not what it used to be.

 

[robotman]

55g 13w 4' long standard

4x scarlet hermit
4x blue hermit
1x unkown hermit (hitch hiker)
1x unkown snail (hitch hiker)
6x turbo snail
4x emerald crab
3x clown (2 maroon banded) (1 oscelaris)
2x cleaner shrimp
1x peppermint shrimp
1x blood red shrimp

ive heard of compatible issues with my clowns, but currently theyve been swimming together and i see no problems

blue tang only 1 3/4" big
maybe a couple royal gammas
plan to add this already paired Hi fin banded goby and candy pistol shrimp
flame angel would be last

 

[snorvich]

55g 13w 4' long standard

4x scarlet hermit
4x blue hermit
1x unkown hermit (hitch hiker)
1x unkown snail (hitch hiker) hermit crabs kill snails for their shells
6x turbo snail
4x emerald crab
3x clown (2 maroon banded) (1 oscelaris) the A. ocellaris will be killed; not if but when
2x cleaner shrimp
1x peppermint shrimp
1x blood red shrimp

ive heard of compatible issues with my clowns, but currently theyve been swimming together and i see no problems

blue tang only 1 3/4" big Reef Central recommends a 240 gallon tank for this fish
maybe a couple royal gammas In your sized tank, I do not think more than one is long term stable
plan to add this already paired Hi fin banded goby and candy pistol shrimp
flame angel would be last not coral safe

 

[Fishypapa]

Sorry about that:

38 gallon tank

2 Amphiprion ocellaris (juveniles)
1 Royal Gramma Basselet
2 astrea snails,
2 narcissius snails,
1 Trochus snail
2 Peppermint shrimp
1 Yellow Watchman Goby
(a few corals frags)

Also thinking of adding a tuxedo urchin and skunk cleaner shrimp. Would another goby cause a fight? (not going with the shrimp thing)

 

[snorvich]

Sorry about that:

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. I have no way of knowing, for example, what fish your LFS carry and I certainly have no idea of what you consider reasonably priced, so I cannot reasonably answer your question. Sorry I cannot be more helpful. If you resubmit a revised stocking list, I will be happy to reevaluate, specifically with regard to compatiblity with your Gramma loretto (Royal Gramma).


38 gallon tank

2 Amphiprion ocellaris (juveniles)
1 Royal Gramma Basselet
2 astrea snails,
2 narcissius snails,
1 Trochus snail
2 Peppermint shrimp
1 Yellow Watchman Goby
(a few corals frags)

Also thinking of adding a tuxedo urchin and skunk cleaner shrimp. Would another goby cause a fight? Yes, another shrimp goby would cause a problem

(not going with the shrimp thing)

 

[Fishypapa]

ding ding round 2

38 gallon tank

2 False Percula
1 Royal Gramma Basselet
1 Yellow Watchman Goby
1 Starry Blenny
2 astrea snails,
2 narcissius snails,
1 Trochus snail
2 Peppermint shrimp
(a few corals frags)
Tuxedo Urchin
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp

 

[snorvich]

ding ding round 2

38 gallon tank

2 False Percula
1 Royal Gramma Basselet
1 Yellow Watchman Goby
1 Starry Blenny
2 astrea snails,
2 narcissius snails,
1 Trochus snail
2 Peppermint shrimp
(a few corals frags)
Tuxedo Urchin
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp

should be fine.

 

[shelk]

63 gallon tank only CUC is in
tank will have in the future SPS and LPS


a couple of flameback angelfish are a good option to start with?

 

[Newsmyrna80]

I have an 80 gallon reef tank with a 30 gallon "refugium". I'm not sure if it's classified as a refugium. I took a 30 gallon and put 2 sets of baffles in it to create 3 compartments. The middle one has a deep sand bed and live rock. The first compartment is the incoming line and protein skimmer and the third is the return. The main tank is overflowing with pods since my tank was fallow for 6 weeks.
Question: Is my setup big enough to sustain a very small green mandarin? A neighbor gave him to me cuz he is getting out of the hobby.
Right now he's in a QT. Eventually I would like to train him to eat frozen. Thank you!

 

[snorvich]

63 gallon tank only CUC is in
tank will have in the future SPS and LPS


a couple of flameback angelfish are a good option to start with?

To properly evaluate, it is always best to have a complete stocking plan for behavioral compatibility. Note, however, that any dwarf or pygmy angel is not truly reef safe. Also, for more than one of a given species, it is best to have a pair rather than two males.

 

[snorvich]

I have an 80 gallon reef tank with a 30 gallon "refugium". I'm not sure if it's classified as a refugium. I took a 30 gallon and put 2 sets of baffles in it to create 3 compartments. The middle one has a deep sand bed and live rock. The first compartment is the incoming line and protein skimmer and the third is the return. The main tank is overflowing with pods since my tank was fallow for 6 weeks.
Question: Is my setup big enough to sustain a very small green mandarin?

yes, once it is mature

A neighbor gave him to me cuz he is getting out of the hobby.
Right now he's in a QT. Eventually I would like to train him to eat frozen. Thank you!

Well that is not really the best way to sustain a mandarin long term as the nutritional value of frozen is not the same as eating copepods. Frozen e.g. mysis or similar, tends to be high in fat content which makes the fish look "fat and healthy" but in the long run that is not the best way to sustain a mandarin.

 

[Missoula Sherry]

I would like to add the following to my 75g tank and would like some feed back.

Purple tang -I will upgrade to a larger tank in a few years, if necessary
Two juvenile ocellaris clowns - tank bred
Bangai cardinal- tank raised
Three chalk basslets

Thanks.

 

[Missoula Sherry]

I should add that my tank has been set up for 3 months and my refugium has been set up for a month.

Thanks in advance.

 

[snorvich]

I would like to add the following to my 75g tank and would like some feed back.

Purple tang -I will upgrade to a larger tank in a few years, if necessary We at Reef Central feel you should purchase fish for the tank you have since the vast majority of upgrades do not happen for a variety of reasons. Our recommended tank sizes for tangs can be found here.
Two juvenile ocellaris clowns - tank bred
Bangai cardinal- tank raised
Three chalk basslets

Otherwise, fine.

Thanks.

 

[Newsmyrna80]

Well that is not really the best way to sustain a mandarin long term as the nutritional value of frozen is not the same as eating copepods. Frozen e.g. mysis or similar, tends to be high in fat content which makes the fish look "fat and healthy" but in the long run that is not the best way to sustain a mandarin.

Snorvich, sorry I forgot to add that my tank is 7 years old. I did upgrade from a 55 gallon back in November but I transferred all the liverock, sand and corals. I am going to start actively cultivating pods in the refugium.
I do have this little guy in a QT. I've read that due to their slime coat a QT is not necessary. Your opinion?

 

[snorvich]

Snorvich, sorry I forgot to add that my tank is 7 years old. I did upgrade from a 55 gallon back in November but I transferred all the liverock, sand and corals. I am going to start actively cultivating pods in the refugium.
I do have this little guy in a QT. I've read that due to their slime coat a QT is not necessary. Your opinion?

That question is well beyond the scope of this thread. I will give you an opinion but will not discuss it further; the Fish Disease forum folks, I am sure, can offer various opinions. Mandarins can get oodinium (marine velvet) which can quickly wipe out a tank, but are highly resistant to cryptocaryon irritans (commonly called ich) which eventually can also kill fish although not as quickly. If I were getting a fish from an external source such as an LFS or online vendor, I would quarantine everything since a low level of (nontherapeutic dose) copper can mask oodinium.

 

[Missoula Sherry]

Thanks for being a good conscience, Steve. I'll get a Kole tang.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks for being a good conscience, Steve. I'll get a Kole tang.

Both you and your fish will be much happier.

 

[Newsmyrna80]

That question is well beyond the scope of this thread. I will give you an opinion but will not discuss it further; the Fish Disease forum folks, I am sure, can offer various opinions. Mandarins can get oodinium (marine velvet) which can quickly wipe out a tank, but are highly resistant to cryptocaryon irritans (commonly called ich) which eventually can also kill fish although not as quickly. If I were getting a fish from an external source such as an LFS or online vendor, I would quarantine everything since a low level of (nontherapeutic dose) copper can mask oodinium.

Sorry