PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

Thanks for the reply. There's only one clarkii, not a pair, and he is pushing 8 years old so he's long past maturity. Damsel has been gentle so far. Hasn't gotten in a single scrap in the years I've had him, and even ignores the Dalmatian mollies that I just added. No intentions of adding another clarkia either. So the Midas may be the bully of the bunch then?

Actually the Clarkii is likely a female if that old. With no male, behavior should be moderate to mellow. The Midas will not be a terror, but will likely nip.

 

[Bpb]

Thanks again. Yeah my clarkii is pretty mellow. Doesn't like the cardinal for whatever reason so she makes sure it doesn't come too close but nothing violent. Otherwise nothing in the tank fights at all ever. Midas blenny has been on my wish list for quite some time. I may give one a try if I can find a good colored one for cheap enough. Just wanted to double check for major red flags.

 

[dbp214]

90 gallon mixed reef w/ shrimp, zoos, etc.

filtration:
120 lbs live rock
60 lbs live sand
filter sock (200 micron)
Vertex Omega 150 protein skimmer
10 lbs miracle mud refugium with macros
400mL biopellets in a biochurn reactor

current fish:
green chromis x10

desired fish:
powder blue tang x1
flame angel x1
copperband butterfly x1


I would like to add some rare fish to that list. Should I add all the fish at once?

 

[snorvich]

90 gallon mixed reef w/ shrimp, zoos, etc.

filtration:
120 lbs live rock
60 lbs live sand
filter sock (200 micron)
Vertex Omega 150 protein skimmer
10 lbs miracle mud refugium with macros
400mL biopellets in a biochurn reactor

current fish:
green chromis x10 over time, will become one or at most two

desired fish:
powder blue tang x1 needs larger tank
flame angel x1
copperband butterfly x1 difficult; best chance is an Australian collected one


I would like to add some rare fish to that list. Should I add all the fish at once?

You need to develop an appropriate quarantine protocol. The Copperband should be added, after quarantine, early on.

 

[Megaloptera]

30 Gallon tall

30 Gallon tall

Just moved to a different state. My 30 gallon tall seems to be surviving. Water chemistry may be cycling slightly. I have a ocellaris clown and a royal gramma that survived the trip and are happy in the 60lbs of live rock. I am interested in your thoughts on adding another clown, hawkfish, firefish, and or six lined wrasse. Which one or ones would make the best active tank? I sold all my coral before the move not knowing if they would survive the trip. My QT tank is just starting to cycle and these additions wouldn't be for a couple months.

 

[snorvich]

Just moved to a different state. My 30 gallon tall seems to be surviving. Water chemistry may be cycling slightly. I have a ocellaris clown and a royal gramma that survived the trip and are happy in the 60lbs of live rock. I am interested in your thoughts on adding another
clown, assuming the same species, it would have to be a tiny one; once the pair sexually matures, they will want to control 25-30 gallons of tank space
hawkfish, not shrimp safe, but a great fish
firefish, and or easy, but a jumper
six lined wrasse. aggressive, will limit other choices

Which one or ones would make the best active tank? I sold all my coral before the move not knowing if they would survive the trip. My QT tank is just starting to cycle and these additions wouldn't be for a couple months.

 

[PatmanM3]

I currently have a 110 and will be upgrading very soon to a 240+ gallon 8ft x 2ft x 2ft FOWLR setup.

Current fish:
Blue face angel (5in adult)
Domino damsel (4in)
Blue velvet damsel (4.5in)
Engineer goby (9in)
Gold stripe maroon clown (3in)
Spotted rabbitfish (4in)
Sohal tang (7in)

I know that my current fish are all in tight quarters but so far they've gotten along (going 6 months).

Now for the 240 gal I plan on adding:

Flame hawk fish
French angelfish
Orange shoulder tang (show sized)
Blonde naso tang

Two large angels in the long run are likely to be problematic; the French especially can be aggressive. A Sohal tang, from my experience, will mature into a very ornery fish. They are fine when small, but there seems to be a point when a switch flips and they become super aggressive. While your new tank is significantly larger than your current one, I am reluctant to indicate that this mix will work long term as the fish mature.

I will be keeping the sohal in QT for a while and will be the absolute last fish to be transferred over.

Thanks in advance for input!

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Thanks for the recommendation.

I revised my list:

Blue faced angel
Potters angel
Desjardini tang
Yellow tang
Blue hippo tang
Blue faced wrasse
Banggai cardinal
Gold striped maroon clown
Vlamingii tang
Sohal tang
Gold spot rabbitfish
Domino damsel
Electric blue damsel
Engineer goby
Harlequin tusk

Is that too many fish for my sized tank?

 

[snorvich]

I currently have a 110 and will be upgrading very soon to a 240+ gallon 8ft x 2ft x 2ft FOWLR setup.

Current fish:
Blue face angel (5in adult)
Domino damsel (4in)
Blue velvet damsel (4.5in)
Engineer goby (9in)
Gold stripe maroon clown (3in)
Spotted rabbitfish (4in)
Sohal tang (7in)

I know that my current fish are all in tight quarters but so far they've gotten along (going 6 months).

Now for the 240 gal I plan on adding:

Flame hawk fish
French angelfish
Orange shoulder tang (show sized)
Blonde naso tang

Two large angels in the long run are likely to be problematic; the French especially can be aggressive. A Sohal tang, from my experience, will mature into a very ornery fish. They are fine when small, but there seems to be a point when a switch flips and they become super aggressive. While your new tank is significantly larger than your current one, I am reluctant to indicate that this mix will work long term as the fish mature.

I will be keeping the sohal in QT for a while and will be the absolute last fish to be transferred over.

Thanks in advance for input!

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Thanks for the recommendation.

With regards only to the revised list

I revised my list:

Blue faced angel
Potters angel
Desjardini tang
Yellow tang
Blue hippo tang
Blue faced wrasse
Banggai cardinal
Gold striped maroon clown
Vlamingii tang needs a much larger tank
Sohal tang this fish will eventually become mean and kill fish
Gold spot rabbitfish
Domino damsel
Electric blue damsel
Engineer goby
Harlequin tusk

Is that too many fish for my sized tank?

well you have some large aggressive grazers which may mature into a tank that has so many established tangs that you will be unable to add fish; the number of fish is probably ok, however

 

[Jrod4]

58g mixed reef with 20g sump

Bicolor angel
Pair of black occelaris clowns
Lawnmower goby
Exquisite fairy wrasse (just one that I picked for now, but am open to other fairy wrasses)
a couple shrimp

Thanks for your help!

 

[snorvich]

58g mixed reef with 20g sump

Bicolor angel
Pair of black occelaris clowns
Lawnmower goby
Exquisite fairy wrasse (just one that I picked for now, but am open to other fairy wrasses)
a couple shrimp

Thanks for your help!

Should be fine but the dwarf angel is a bit difficult

 

[MikeL1987]

Revisited my list after doing some home work

60g hexagon, newly cycled with small CUC.

If possible, id like to know if this would be a good choice for livestock, and if so what order would be best to add them?

Copperband Butterfly
Diamond Goby
2 Oscellaris Clowns
royal gramma
flame angel

thanks so much! im grateful that this thread exists and is so well maintained.

 

[snorvich]

Revisited my list after doing some home work

60g hexagon, newly cycled with small CUC.

If possible, id like to know if this would be a good choice for livestock, and if so what order would be best to add them?

Copperband Butterfly This fish needs a much larger tank, and it also very difficult. I definitely do not recommend it for this sized tank and do not recommend it for anyone without a lot of experience
Diamond Goby
2 Oscellaris Clowns
royal gramma
flame angel

Otherwise, except as noted, fine

thanks so much! im grateful that this thread exists and is so well maintained.

 

[MikeL1987]

thanks snorvich. I was on the fence with the butterfly and alls I hear is bad things about them. much appreciated!

 

[HUNTER1]

Hi, can I keep a snowflake eel in my 40g 36x15x19? thanks

 

[DragKnee]

I have a 30g Cube with a 20g Sump/Built-in Refugium. (Refugium is about half of the sump, with live sand, rock rubble & chaeto).

It's going to be mostly zoa's/paly's and a couple LPS. The main piece will be a RBTA.

2x Clarkii Clownfish
1x Flame Hawkfish
1x Orchid Dottyback

I have a pretty extreme fireworm infestation right now, and have no idea why, so I'm hoping the dottyback helps curb that. Only inhabitants currently are a good sized cleaner shrimp, large emerald crab, snails, hermits, and a derasa clam.

 

[snorvich]

Hi, can I keep a snowflake eel in my 40g 36x15x19? thanks

No.

 

[snorvich]

I have a 30g Cube with a 20g Sump/Built-in Refugium. (Refugium is about half of the sump, with live sand, rock rubble & chaeto).

It's going to be mostly zoa's/paly's and a couple LPS. The main piece will be a RBTA.

2x Clarkii Clownfish Once sexually mature, these will want to control more than 30 gallons as they will be aggressive
1x Flame Hawkfish great fish, not shrimp safe
1x Orchid Dottyback

I have a pretty extreme fireworm infestation right now, and have no idea why, so I'm hoping the dottyback helps curb that.

It will/may eat them but probably will not eat enough to control your problem which is a result of over feeding. Bristleworms are a good member of the cleanup crew.

Only inhabitants currently are a good sized cleaner shrimp, large emerald crab, snails, hermits, and a derasa clam.

The clam will rapidly get way too large for your sized tank. Snails and hermits are somewhat mutually exclusive as hermits will kill snails for their shells. FYI. This thread, however, is only about marine fish compatibility.

 

[HUNTER1]

No.

Even by itself with the tank built with PVC tunnels across the 36" length?

 

[snorvich]

Even by itself with the tank built with PVC tunnels across the 36" length?

The minimum suggested tank size is 50 gallons but that is a minimum rather than an optimum. I assume no other animals, but even then, I would not. However, in general, I prefer not to provide commentary on aggressive fish tanks.

 

[DragKnee]

I have a 30g Cube with a 20g Sump/Built-in Refugium. (Refugium is about half of the sump, with live sand, rock rubble & chaeto).

It's going to be mostly zoa's/paly's and a couple LPS. The main piece will be a RBTA.

2x Clarkii Clownfish Once sexually mature, these will want to control more than 30 gallons as they will be aggressive
1x Flame Hawkfish great fish, not shrimp safe
1x Orchid Dottyback

I have a pretty extreme fireworm infestation right now, and have no idea why, so I'm hoping the dottyback helps curb that.

It will/may eat them but probably will not eat enough to control your problem which is a result of over feeding. Bristleworms are a good member of the cleanup crew.

Only inhabitants currently are a good sized cleaner shrimp, large emerald crab, snails, hermits, and a derasa clam.

The clam will rapidly get way too large for your sized tank. Snails and hermits are somewhat mutually exclusive as hermits will kill snails for their shells. FYI. This thread, however, is only about marine fish compatibility.

Thanks for the response.

I guess I could easily read into your response, but just to be sure, so the Clarkii's in a 30g would basically assault any other fish in the entire tank?

I know the 3 types of fish are a bit territorial, so would the hawkfish and dottyback be able to hold their own, or would it bound to be a fight to the death situation?

Even a good size cleaner shrimp will succumb to a hawkfish, aye?

On a side note, tanks been running for a couple months now with the hermits/snails and they have been [so far] compliant amongst each other and no deaths to report. The clam does have a larger home it'll go to once the time comes.