If it were me, I would introduce both Ctenochaetus tangs concurrently and skip the yellow since zebrasoma tangs are much more territorial.
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If it were me, I would introduce both Ctenochaetus tangs concurrently and skip the yellow since zebrasoma tangs are much more territorial.
msderganc
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Ok, so it's likely that the Yellow tang will become aggressive even when added simultaneously? I'm a bit significant-other limited here, since she really likes Yellow tangs (and that was part of the sales pitch for the new tank). :uhoh2:
75g coral reef build
75g coral reef build
Hello I was thinking about jumping back into the hobby but I want to plan my fish list right before I invest. Im doing the 75g 90 pounds of rock and 80 lbs of sand. 29 gallon sump. My fish list Im thinking about is as follows:
Leopard Wrasse and/or Bartlett's Anthias
Flame Angel
Orange Butterflyfish
Foxface Lo
Watchman Goby - pistol shrimp pair
black and white or pink skunk pair clownfish
BTA
yellowhead jawfish
50 hermits assorted
30 snails assorted
Any Suggestions?
75g coral reef build
Hello I was thinking about jumping back into the hobby but I want to plan my fish list right before I invest. Im doing the 75g 90 pounds of rock and 80 lbs of sand. 29 gallon sump. My fish list Im thinking about is as follows:
Leopard Wrasse and/or Bartlett's Anthias
Flame Angel
Orange Butterflyfish
Foxface Lo
Watchman Goby - pistol shrimp pair
black and white or pink skunk pair clownfish
BTA
yellowhead jawfish
50 hermits assorted
30 snails assorted
Any Suggestions?
A ten gallon tank can only have one fish. And in any case, a neon dottyback will be noone's buddy even in a much larger tank.
P. fridmani are the least aggressive of the pseudochromis; however, there is some risk with any dottyback and the gramma loretto
Hi again!
So, my female c.solorensis wrasse didn't work out, it turned out that "she" began to transition to "sub-male" and my male would simply not let the new wrasse in and would not stop attacking the acclimation box.
Anyway, I was able to return "her" for full store credit to my LFS after a week of trying and am now considering a royal gramma as I do wish to add one more fish besides my future purchase of a green mandarin to add some more color to my tank.
Tank is a 90gallon FOWLR (except for some mushrooms for early indication of water issues) with a 30 gallon sump w/refugium.
Current livestock:
Mixed snail CUC (cerith, dwarf cerith, astrea, turbo, nassarius, red banded trochus)
2x Skunk Cleaner Shrimp
Pair of Tank Bred Ocellaris Clowns
1x Diamond Goby
1x Cleaner Goby (short lifespan, I know, but he's honestly my favorite fish)
1x Flame Angel
1x Male C. Solorensis (Red Headed Solon Fairy Wrasse)
1x One Spot Foxface
Also, in the refugium; 2x Peppermint shrimp and 4-5 hermits
Intended purchases:
1x Royal Gramma (would purchase in the next week if there are no compatibility issues)
1x Green Mandarin (tank is currently about 6-7 months old, won't purchase the Mandarin until the tank is at least 1 year old and there is a very visible pod-population)
Thank you!
So, my female c.solorensis wrasse didn't work out, it turned out that "she" began to transition to "sub-male" and my male would simply not let the new wrasse in and would not stop attacking the acclimation box.
Anyway, I was able to return "her" for full store credit to my LFS after a week of trying and am now considering a royal gramma as I do wish to add one more fish besides my future purchase of a green mandarin to add some more color to my tank.
Tank is a 90gallon FOWLR (except for some mushrooms for early indication of water issues) with a 30 gallon sump w/refugium.
Current livestock:
Mixed snail CUC (cerith, dwarf cerith, astrea, turbo, nassarius, red banded trochus)
2x Skunk Cleaner Shrimp
Pair of Tank Bred Ocellaris Clowns
1x Diamond Goby
1x Cleaner Goby (short lifespan, I know, but he's honestly my favorite fish)
1x Flame Angel
1x Male C. Solorensis (Red Headed Solon Fairy Wrasse)
1x One Spot Foxface
Also, in the refugium; 2x Peppermint shrimp and 4-5 hermits
Intended purchases:
1x Royal Gramma (would purchase in the next week if there are no compatibility issues)
1x Green Mandarin (tank is currently about 6-7 months old, won't purchase the Mandarin until the tank is at least 1 year old and there is a very visible pod-population)
Thank you!
Mark9
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OK then, 29g, 25 or so lbs live rock, with 10g sump, has skimmer in sump, with a small fuge, just chaeto in there.
tank currently has 2 clowns, 1 green chronis, and a royal gramma.
can I put the Chinese demoiselle in the 29?
or is it full?
the demoiselle spends his time in the rocks, he even moved some sand to give himself more room.
I have never kept this fish and do not know its behavior. Your 29 is likely full, especially after the clownfish become sexually mature.
Bshanks4321
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Anthias with Hawkfish
Anthias with Hawkfish
I was wondering if an Anthias is hardy enough to deal with a hawkfish messing with it for about a day or two. My hawkfish loves to harrass new additions, only for about 24 hours. What do you think? If not i have a 50 Gallon with 1 Maroon Clown, 1 Blood Red Hawkfish, 1 Coral Beauty and 1 Bicolor Blenny. Would there be another recommendation for another fish. I want to have 5 fish in my tank, 4 just seems a little under stocked. I run a great skimmer on my tank and a carbon/phosphate reactor and 55 lbs of live rock, so i think my tank can handle a solid bioload.
Anthias with Hawkfish
I was wondering if an Anthias is hardy enough to deal with a hawkfish messing with it for about a day or two. My hawkfish loves to harrass new additions, only for about 24 hours. What do you think? If not i have a 50 Gallon with 1 Maroon Clown, 1 Blood Red Hawkfish, 1 Coral Beauty and 1 Bicolor Blenny. Would there be another recommendation for another fish. I want to have 5 fish in my tank, 4 just seems a little under stocked. I run a great skimmer on my tank and a carbon/phosphate reactor and 55 lbs of live rock, so i think my tank can handle a solid bioload.
In this tank, the constraint on additions is the maroon clown which will eventually become female even absent a second one. Anthias need a larger tank. As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. However I am always willing to reanalyze your stocking list.
Bshanks4321
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No worries, thanks for replying Snorvich. Do you think my current stocking list is okay as is or will i have issues?
A female maroon clown will want to control about 50 gallons of tank space, so that is the primary area of concern since they are very aggressive. Secondarily, that dwarf angel really needs a larger tank since it is a grazer and eats constantly. In the longer run that may become an issue.
Looking for some help. 72g sumpless bow front. Mated pair of tomatoe clowns, green mandarin, Aussie orange tail damsel, ywg/pistol. I have a yellow eye kole tang coming in this week. Would you say this pretty much maxes me out, or could I add a splendid dotty back too.
Thanks
Thanks
Ignoring the fact the a splendid dottyback is very aggressive, you already have some issues: tomato clowns once sexually mature are aggressive, damsels are aggressive, and a kole tang is marginal for this tank size. The mandarin is also right on the borderline suitable for this sized tank especially with no sump or refugium. So I would definitely not add another aggressive fish. Bioload is not really the issue, however, it is more a behavioral one.
I was suggested to post this here to get some more expert advice on my livestock selection.
The tank will be a 120 gal 48 x 24 x 24. I will be using live rock, and a refigium. there will be live rock in the sump, display tank and the refugium. Not sure exact size of Sump yet but was thinking of 60 gal.
I have been given some advice already and have put it in my fish diary so I can make final decisions later.
So I did some research and since a tank is usually built for it's inhabitants.... I came up with a list of things I would like in my tank. Trust me this list is not all inclusive and I don't want everything listed.
I would like to hear some suggestions on what may go well together and complement each other. Anything definitely not to get. I welcome any suggestions that may not be on here as well that anyone may have. Once I narrow down my livestock I can move on with getting set up for the tank build.
I intend to do my best to keep all fish purchases tank bred and al coral aquacultured if possible.
Livestock to consider for the 120 Gal Reef tank
Inverts:
Urchin: Purple short spine, Pencil, Pincushion, long spine, or tuxedo
Sponge
Shrimp: Peppermint, Fire, or Scarlet skunk
Feather dusters and coco worms
Porcelain crab
Trapezia crab (need sps coral)
Anemone(s) (to host clowns)
Clam: Derasa, crocea, Maxima, Squamosa
Snails for CUC various types. suggestions would be welcome
Hermits for CUC various types
Cucumber ? one of the places I have been looking at for livestock has a CUC with a mini cucumber in it
Fish:
Clown: Pair of Black Ocellaris, Ocellaris, or Percula
Cardinal: three of one type Bangai, Spotted, or Yellow Striped
Damsel: one of Blue Sapphire or Yellow Tail
Basslet: one of Black cap or Royal Gramma
Tang: one Bristle tooth Tomini
Dartfish: one firefish
Blenny: one of Yellow eye comb tooth, Harp tail, or Black comb tooth
Anthias: one of Bartlett's, Sunset, Princess, Pictilis, or Central Pacific
Wrasse: one of Orange back Fairy, Whip fin fairy, or Carpenter's Flasher
Chromis: three or four of Black Bar, Black and White, Vanderbuilt, or Blue/green
Gobies: One or two of Green clown, Catalina, Yellow Stripe cling fish, Neon Blue, Engineer, Green banded, Hector's, Orange Stripe Prawn, or Sleeper Gold head
I would like to have a dragonette. I know they need a well established tank. I saw one at my LFS. They told me that they do train them to spot feed on pellets and frozen food.
Plants:
Halimeda
Shaving Brush
Maiden's Hair
Kelp
Macros in refugium
Corals:
This is where I really need some help and suggestions of what would work well, and what would not. Not really sure here. Would like a nice rounded selection of coral to cover whole spectrum. Hear SPS and LPS are more difficult and think I would like to start with softies but eventually do want to have SPS and LPS too maybe.
More recent suggestions have me leaning toward an LPS dominate tank with some softies and a few SPS near the top. Still don't know exactly what species though.
The tank will be a 120 gal 48 x 24 x 24. I will be using live rock, and a refigium. there will be live rock in the sump, display tank and the refugium. Not sure exact size of Sump yet but was thinking of 60 gal.
I have been given some advice already and have put it in my fish diary so I can make final decisions later.
So I did some research and since a tank is usually built for it's inhabitants.... I came up with a list of things I would like in my tank. Trust me this list is not all inclusive and I don't want everything listed.
I would like to hear some suggestions on what may go well together and complement each other. Anything definitely not to get. I welcome any suggestions that may not be on here as well that anyone may have. Once I narrow down my livestock I can move on with getting set up for the tank build.
I intend to do my best to keep all fish purchases tank bred and al coral aquacultured if possible.
Livestock to consider for the 120 Gal Reef tank
Inverts:
Urchin: Purple short spine, Pencil, Pincushion, long spine, or tuxedo
Sponge
Shrimp: Peppermint, Fire, or Scarlet skunk
Feather dusters and coco worms
Porcelain crab
Trapezia crab (need sps coral)
Anemone(s) (to host clowns)
Clam: Derasa, crocea, Maxima, Squamosa
Snails for CUC various types. suggestions would be welcome
Hermits for CUC various types
Cucumber ? one of the places I have been looking at for livestock has a CUC with a mini cucumber in it
Fish:
Clown: Pair of Black Ocellaris, Ocellaris, or Percula
Cardinal: three of one type Bangai, Spotted, or Yellow Striped
Damsel: one of Blue Sapphire or Yellow Tail
Basslet: one of Black cap or Royal Gramma
Tang: one Bristle tooth Tomini
Dartfish: one firefish
Blenny: one of Yellow eye comb tooth, Harp tail, or Black comb tooth
Anthias: one of Bartlett's, Sunset, Princess, Pictilis, or Central Pacific
Wrasse: one of Orange back Fairy, Whip fin fairy, or Carpenter's Flasher
Chromis: three or four of Black Bar, Black and White, Vanderbuilt, or Blue/green
Gobies: One or two of Green clown, Catalina, Yellow Stripe cling fish, Neon Blue, Engineer, Green banded, Hector's, Orange Stripe Prawn, or Sleeper Gold head
I would like to have a dragonette. I know they need a well established tank. I saw one at my LFS. They told me that they do train them to spot feed on pellets and frozen food.
Plants:
Halimeda
Shaving Brush
Maiden's Hair
Kelp
Macros in refugium
Corals:
This is where I really need some help and suggestions of what would work well, and what would not. Not really sure here. Would like a nice rounded selection of coral to cover whole spectrum. Hear SPS and LPS are more difficult and think I would like to start with softies but eventually do want to have SPS and LPS too maybe.
More recent suggestions have me leaning toward an LPS dominate tank with some softies and a few SPS near the top. Still don't know exactly what species though.
all fish above are coral safe. However clownfish do not always associate with the anemone provided. They can and will often associate with certain LPS corals which can damage them. FYI.
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