possible new fish additions...safe or not?

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ryanpal

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My current fish:

watchman goby
damsel
dottyback
longnose butterfly
powder blue tang
razor barred goby
two clowns
dwarf lionfish


Possible future fish:

copperband
sailfin
bartlett anthias
regal angel


two comparisons.

1. do you guys forsee any problems the future fish would have with the current fish?
2. do you see any compatibility problems with any of the future fish between each other?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10888674#post10888674 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ryanpal
150gal reef tank
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ouch... i would say the anthias due to space. the PBT and sailfin get kinda big to share a 150 IMO
 
The anthias should be fine in a 150. The two tangs may cause you problems though! due to space, growth and aggression issues.
 
I would probably scratch any other tangs off your current or future list.

I take it your tank is fish-only? Many of those fish are not reef-safe but if it's fish-only I would say the rest of those fish should do ok. Beyond those might be pushing it.
 
my tank is a reef tank.

how fast do these fish grow? i don't mind trading them in once they get to large. that is of course if i don't develope that big of an attachment to them and then it's time to upgrade the tank ;]
 
^^^ as a general rule - you always take an extreme chance with an angel in a coralized reef tank.

Red Flame Angels and there is a breed from Pakistan that MAY work, but anyone will tell you there is no gaurantee. The down side is once the fish is loose in your tank and you start noticing your LPS and and SPS getting chewed on; catching the Angel is most difficult.
 
wonder if i can get a sailfin and the pbt to get a long. i saw a small sailfin at the lfs and it looked great.

my pbt isn't too agreesive only a little hostility between him and the long nose butterfly but who knows maybe its playful? there's a littel chasing in a circle at times but no nipping of the fins etc.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10888822#post10888822 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chef Reef
ouch... i would say the anthias due to space. the PBT and sailfin get kinda big to share a 150 IMO
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I agree with Chef, and will add that adding too many agressive feeders will make it tough for your lion to get his share. Adding tangs and angels at different times is tricky at best.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10893897#post10893897 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralnut99
I agree with Chef, and will add that adding too many agressive feeders will make it tough for your lion to get his share. Adding tangs and angels at different times is tricky at best.
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the lion is a bum! he hasn't even showed his face after hiding the other day. not much luck with these lion guys. even after some feeder shrimp in the tank i didnt see him...hopefuly i will soon though!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10893500#post10893500 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ryanpal
my tank is a reef tank.

how fast do these fish grow? i don't mind trading them in once they get to large. that is of course if i don't develope that big of an attachment to them and then it's time to upgrade the tank ;]
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Trading them isn't as easy as you make it sound. Have you ever tried catching a fish in a fully stocked reef system? If you have, I could use some pointers in getting a Purple Tang out of one of my 125's.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10894010#post10894010 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by davidryder
You can't judge their behavior/aggression just by watching them swim around in your tank.

I suggest you pick up a book called Marine Fishes and do some research.
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The best suggestion / piece of advice offered so far.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10894098#post10894098 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralnut99
The best suggestion / piece of advice offered so far.
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thanks for the book recommendation. i figured my research would start here....
 
Well I'm willing to bet that most of these recommendations here were pulled right out of that book or a similar one. If our advice isn't detailed or compelling enough it's probably because nobody feels like typing a couple paragraphs for each of those fish.

10% will probably say forget the police and stuff as many tangs as you can in your tank because "well i know this one guy who had lots of tangs and they all look happy" seems to be a very compelling and convincing argument.

The other 90% however will say that tangs by-and-by are very aggressive & territorial as the mature.

According to Marine Fishes:

Powder Blue Tang:
Max Length: 9.1in

It is very susceptible to ich, a weakness common in this family but exaggerated in this species. It is extremely hostile toward other tangs, especially those similar in form and color. Except in very large systems, it should be the only tang present.

150g is a large tank and you will probably be ok with two tangs - in the end it's your tank and we can only say what we would do. However your research should have started in a book, not here. I would never put a lionfish in a community tank and I also wouldn't put any angel or any butterfly fish in a reef tank.

Any reputable LFS will have that book I recommended and some will even have an extra copy for customers to look at while they're shopping. I actually have 2 copies; one is sitting right in front of me and the other is in my car.
 
sounds great david, thanks for your input.

i have two books and will read them in detail rather than a glancing coffee table book. im a computer guy so i tend to do most research online.

interesting view about the lionfish. some suggest the dwarf is a great addition but the amount that he hides (so far)...has me feeling it's not the best addition.

the butterfly has been doing well. feeding off the live rock etc. i can say he's one of my favorites. but i understand your point and that it was a risk. (i listened to the lfs guy that it shoudl be fine when first getting into the hobby).

at any rate, thanks for your post. ;]
 
also, i just want to clarify.

i wasn't trying to hold up an argument and battle against those who mention what additions might not be appropriate. i was looking for basics on which i could go on and take it from there.
 
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