Possibly adding an Orange Shoulder Tang

Great fish, mine just started changing colors.
Gets along with my Bristletooth, Desjardini, and everyone else.
Good luck with it.
 
just got him home. looks pretty healthy and fat. got him dripping now I dont want to bother him too much but will post pics in a few days
 
well no need to feed a dead fish. I am so over buying fish. they never stay alive. Really not sure how I still have my Tomini alive.
 
Oh no, dangit.
before I went to bed last night he was breathing very fast and heavy and laying on his side. must have just been too much stress.

What really frustrates me is that everyone I have brought into the hobby can keep fish alive but I have horrible luck. My stepdad drips then tosses the fish in DT never lost a fish in his first year. My father in law never even dripped fish just floated and tossed in. Hasn't lost a fish in almost 10 years.

I try being responsible this time setting up a QT and everything. Just can't keep anything alive. really shocked I have had my two clowns for over a year and my Tomini a few months. everything else I have tried just seems to die
 
QTing fish is highly recommended but more work if you don't have everything in place such as a "seeded" filter. You mentioned your stepdad drips then tosses in the DT and has never lost a fish. This maybe because the DT is mature and established, unlike your QT so less chance for stress and low O2, high ammonia, or just parameters that can change quickly in a QT. sounds like something was rushed and the death could of possibly* been avoided. You may want to look into getting fish from somewhere that offers a 14 day guarantee until you figure out why you keep loosing fish so quickly. In the future one thing that will help with stresses leaving the light off for a day or two when putting fish into a new tank, whether that be your QT or DT. When I QT fish they don't have a light on the tank the entire time I QT them, I only turn on a light every few days to check the fish for signs of disease
 
QTing fish is highly recommended but more work if you don't have everything in place such as a "seeded" filter. You mentioned your stepdad drips then tosses in the DT and has never lost a fish. This maybe because the DT is mature and established, unlike your QT so less chance for stress and low O2, high ammonia, or just parameters that can change quickly in a QT. sounds like something was rushed and the death could of possibly* been avoided. You may want to look into getting fish from somewhere that offers a 14 day guarantee until you figure out why you keep loosing fish so quickly. In the future one thing that will help with stresses leaving the light off for a day or two when putting fish into a new tank, whether that be your QT or DT. When I QT fish they don't have a light on the tank the entire time I QT them, I only turn on a light every few days to check the fish for signs of disease

I am not sure if it i something I did or just the stress on the fish from being in this tank for 2 years then just being pulled out and put into a bag. As soon as I got him i could see him breathing very heavy. I never had a light over the tank to reduce the stress.
 
the QT is showing some ammonia levels but I would imagine that is from the fish dying in the tank overnight

It could be, but it could also have been the issue that caused the fish's demise. One indication of Ammonia poisoning is heavy breathing. The Ammonia burns the fishes gills and makes it difficult for them to breath.

Have you ever thought of using a SeaChem Ammonia Alert Badge on your QT setup?

Sorry about your loss. :(
 
It could be, but it could also have been the issue that caused the fish's demise. One indication of Ammonia poisoning is heavy breathing. The Ammonia burns the fishes gills and makes it difficult for them to breath.

Have you ever thought of using a SeaChem Ammonia Alert Badge on your QT setup?

Sorry about your loss. :(



Plan to buy one tonight. The QT was just setup with a piece of live rock and water from my DT yesterday.

The issue is trying to keep this thing running all the time. My wife is already ****ed about running a 250 gallon system
 
You really don't have to keep it running all the time. I break mine down after each fish. I keep a piece of sacrificial rubble rock in my sump at all times. Then if I buy a fish, I fill up the QT, match the salinity with the bag water, throw in the chunk of rock and drop in the fish.

I've never had any issues with ammonia doing it that way. Just remember that the rock goes in the trash when you are done. It doesn't seem to take much either. The largest fish I had in QT was a 2-Spot Bristletooth and used a piece the size of a softball. That was in a 20g Long. I just did my normal water changes that corresponded to my DT schedule and everything was fine.

I do keep an Ammonia badge on the tank at all times and test the Ammonia on a regular basis just to be sure.
 
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