Post Traumatic Stress - A broad data collection study and discussion

1. Did you serve in combat? If so, please note the time frames and conflicts.
Yes Asscrackerstan Dec-2001-May 2002, Icrack Sep 2004-Mar 200 (caught a freedom bird but not by choice and left some of my body parts on some hill)
2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD?
Yes
3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means?
Yes
4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD?
Big time it really calms me down when I'm having one of my days.
5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder?
I enjoy going to the range and putting rounds down range. But do a search for my build its called "PTSD treatment tank" in the large tank section
 
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1. Did you serve in combat? If so, please note the time frames and conflicts.
Mar 2003- Mar 2004 Iraq 2/503rd 173rd ABN
Jan 2005-Jan 2006 Iraq 4/1 FA 1st Armored
Sep 2009- July2010 Iraq 3/25 CAB 25th ID
Jan 2011- Jan 2012 Afghanistan 3/25 CAB


2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD?
I used to really bad but got treatment


3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means?
Yes


4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD?
Yes. The only somewhat enjoyable thing in my life.


5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder?
No
 
I'm really glad to see someone create a tread on this subject and feel this hobby can help many others with similar issues. Kudo's to you and Reef Central for supporting this topic. I've had quite a few deployments in my career to include the intial Special Operations Task Force into Afghanistan/TF-KBAR in 2001. I was medically retired in 2013 (21 years service) as a result of my 2008 combat injuries (80 IED/EFP). Yes I had suffered from some forms of PTSD and many other medical issues from the IED (2 surguries and several bones removed). The hobby to me has been a godsend. I have been a hobbiest for 22 years and planned most the tank that I have today (230 reef) while I was deployed to Iraq in 2007-2008. It helped me take my mind off things a little while I was there and gave me something to look forward to when I returned home. Unfortunately, my tour ended about 10 months into it after a roadside bomb. Months after returning home, I actually dove deep into the reef project as my personal form of therapy and it significantly helped take my mind off of the deployment and the what had happened. It was almost like a crazy obsession which I cant describe. What I can tell you is it that there is definately a stong bond and connection to my tank and my deployment.

Anyways, if there is anyway other way I can support your study please let me know.

here was the story on my incident posted in the local paper for additional SA. Again Kudo's to you and Reef Central for supporting this topic and hope that others will connect.


http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/macdill/air-force-captain-strives-to-recover-from-roadside-bombing-in-iraq/694318


Best,

Tim OSullivan

Ohio 230 in Large Tank Forum
 
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Tim, thank you for your service. I am glad you joined this thread as I am greatful to you along with the other Veterans here. Many of the civilians don't realize that all members of the armed forces are subject to injuries or death in any war no matter where you are deployed in a combat zone.
PTSD, that my generation of Viet Nam Vets never heard of at the time can happen years or even decades after combat. Just this week I am finding out that one of my closest friends who was a Grunt in Nam the year before I was there is having severe issues and it seems the war came back to haunt him.
I don't know how the wars are fought now, I only know about Viet Nam where we stayed a year in the jungle, rarely if ever seeing a building, road, roof, or wall. That, besides the constant combat along with continuous casualties wrecks havoc on young men just as I am sure it does now. I am just surprised it took so long to manifest itself.
I, like you was also blown up but you had much more injuries than I did as I was 200' from the blast that killed a large number of my company. To this day there is a crater there 100' wide that can be seen on Google Earth.
(It was caused during the battle when the 400 NVA tried to over run us and set off 40+ tons of 8" artillery rounds we had piled up on this small firebase.)
I sincerely hope they have something to ease the suffering of you guys who are affected by PTSD.
Welcome home
 
Don't get me wrong, I love my reef from a pure hobbyist standpoint as well, but it really helps me to disassociate from those memories for awhile and become consumed in my reef. Sure disassociating won't get any of us through all of this, but we can work on that in other ways, and well its not alcohol(unless its vodka! (dosing! ).

I've dealt with PTSD for 20 years, since leaving the Gulf War. A lot of being able to disassociate isn't so much a way to deal with what you're feeling, but mostly a way to forget the past so those feelings don't surface again. I've found personally that any activity that focuses your thoughts on specific goals, without 'wandering off' into PTSD land, is most beneficial. Reefing (and a number of other activities) certainly does require a lot of focus and concentration to get to your desired end goal (setting up, checking water parameters, cleaning, maintaining, trimming, etc). Anything that doesn't allow your brain to wander off into space is a good thing.

My largest trigger event is loud noises. A car back firing, 4th of July, balloons popping. Depending on the situation and where my head is at in the moment (am I already in anxiety mode or not?), I could hit the meltdown point on those triggers.

1. Did you serve in combat? If so, please note the time frames and conflicts.
2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD?
3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means?
4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD?
5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder?

1. Yes. I was with the advance survey team in Northern Iraq before the Gulf War. 15 Air Force Civil Engineers and Base Management staff without military escorts or EOD went deep into Iraq before the 81st Airborne started landing. Our mission was to repair the air field and set up base of operations that would serve the Northern Joint Task Force. My primary mission was camp design and management, plus mortuary affairs if needed. Unfortunately, during the 12 months I was there, I processed 13 land mine casualties. Explosions outside of noon, meant someone had stepped in the wrong spot. Any large noises close to me is enough to bring up those memories, which could trigger a PTSD event.

2. Yes.

3. Yes. The VA was quick to diagnose me with PTSD, even though I did not think I was suffering from it. I had a number of conversations with the base psychiatrist when I came back about my experiences so that was on record. Plus the VA psychiatrist also stated that it was still persistent since I had severe anxiety and depression bouts, especially after trigger events.

4. Impact... no. Does it help? I 'feel' that any calming activity that can keep your head focused and not wandering off into space is enough to help deal with memories and keeping them from coming to the forefront of your mind. But it isn't going to permanently suppress those memories or feelings. Seeing a psychiatrist/councilor, joining a PTSD group, or medicating are the only 'real' impacts you'll find. You need to talk out and get everything off your chest about your experiences with someone/people who can either help you under what you're going through. When you can accept that everything that happened is done, gone, over with, and you can 'change' the 'feeling' of anger, sadness, or whatnot from those memories, then you can start working on your triggers.

5. See above.
 
I was a Navy psychiatrist who served with the 3d Marine Division. I don't have PTSD but I worked with Marines who did:) My most proud accomplishment is my Fleet Marine Force officer pin. Used to scuba dive in Okinawa. Have a 200 gallon reef tank in my home. The aquarium gives me great peace too! Thanks for your service.
 
Man guys, all of you who have served have all my respect in the world and all Americans should feel the same. I love my country and our freedom is only because of you guys. I think if this is a hobby that can help any of the members of any of our military that suffers from this then I think our goverment should look into funding a project like this. Or I think a ton of Americans would even be willing to donate money or equipt for the purpose. In another note it kills me to see men and women who have served our country go without housing medical care food or anything. That's the least we can do for all of you that have given so much for us. It truly makes me sick to my stomach to here the story's of any military person going without.
 
I was in the service (Army) and was a MP doing convoy escort missions in VietNam as well as Desert Storm and yes I am diagnosed with PTSD and keeping fish helps me immensely.
Particurlarly in watching them, it calms me down so much it's amazing
 
1. Did you serve in combat? If so, please note the time frames and conflicts.

Feb 03 - Feb 04 Kuwait - Iraq
Oct 06 - Jan 08 Camp Taji Iraq
Jan 09 - Jan 10 Camp Taji Iraq... again
Aug 13 - Jan 14 Kuwait (ironically the one that medvaced me out for ptsd, the only non combat tour)

2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD?

Yes

3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means?

Yes

4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD?

Yes I do. There are very few things that can actually calm my anxiety down. None can do so as quickly as working on the aquarium. I just wish I had a tank right now.

5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder?

Scuba diving
 
1. Did you serve in combat? If so, please note the time frames and conflicts.
No. I served from 1982-1990, 4 years of which was in spent in Germany. I was a photographer. I photographed everything from promotion ceremonies to autopsies and child abuse. Some of what I saw through the lens will not go away. I am also a domestic violence survivor.
2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD?
Yes.
3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means?
Yes, through the VA. I also requested and received cognitive therapy from the VA, and that has helped me become comfortable in public and when meeting new people.
4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD?
Yes, a huge impact. It calms me when nothing else will. I have spent many sleepless nights reading about it on reefcentral and other sources, learning everything I can, and keeping the focus off memories.
5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder?
Yes, riding my motorcycle, especially pack riding with other clean and sober people, does wonders. Sometimes I just need to change the air in my head, gotta be in the wind to do that...
 
Army 11B 2009-2013
1. Did you serve in combat? If so, please note the time frames and conflicts.
Yes Afghanistan OEF 10/11

2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD?
At 1 point in time very much so, I have gone through much counseling and am better able to cope at this point.

3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means?
Yes through the VA

4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD?
Yes especially immediately after I got home.

5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder?
Yes, Hunting and Fishing also allow me to relax and forget stuff for a bit.
 
1. Did you serve in combat? If so, please note the time frames and conflicts.
Yes, 2003, invading force, Iraqi freedom

2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD?
Yes, just started sleeping without a weapon near me. However I still do nightly firewatch.

3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means?
No, I figured it was expected.

4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD?
Yes, planning my tank clears my mind and allows me to sleep

5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder?
Yes, scuba diving has helped and I just started camping again (without weapons!) Also having dogs has helped me sleep, thinking they are on guard at night.
 
First off, I'm impressed that there aren't any Force Recon-SEALs from the 3rd Ranger Bat posting in here. So genuinely, kudos to all of you. It's refreshing to see some integrity, and personal accountability on the internet these days.

1. Did you serve in combat? If so, please note the time frames and conflicts.

I spent a year in the stand from 09-10 running around finding IED's and kicking Hajj in the friggin face.

2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD

I do at times, mostly I'm in some stage of denial. Half the time I'm like that old college quarterback. The one that can't stop dreaming about the glory days. The other half is the part that get's me into trouble.

3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means?

Yes, but the VA is overrun with idiots. So, I'll probably turn on the tube one day and get confirmation that no one knew what they were talking about. Fingers crossed boys!

4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD?

It absolutely has. Beyond a shadow of a doubt. Within a week of being discharged from the hospital I tore into a light bird, gave the command hand to a 1SG and assaulted an MP. Now, that might sound like a rip roaring good time, but it was drastically out of character. Lucky for me, I had a PSG who recognized that, and went to bat for me. Turns out he was a reefer. I used to go over to his place do some labor, shoot some weapons, and watch his fish. He turned me on to it, and i'll never look back. I'm now an ichthyology major and am completely obsessed. It just goes to show the difference outstanding leadership (and fish) can make on someones future.

5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder?

Kayaking and snorkeling are cathartic too, but when I'm really in a jam It's hard to force myself to go do them. But the fish are always there. All I have to do is walk over, crack a beer and relax. I also hope to start diving soon. I'm just trying to scrape the pennies together.
 
Ptsd

Ptsd

I would like to start collecting data in regards to the impacts of Marine Life on post-traumatic stress.

I feel this would allow Reef Central to become a forum to provide subject matter information and become an asset by being able to provide visibility into an issue that is becoming prevalent in our society, and how our hobby may be able assist.

I served 3 combat tours in the USMC as a scout sniper and am a purple heart recipient. At the age of 18 I made a decision that before I would start my life, I would make something of it and serve my country. At that age I was not aware of the true repercussions that would bring. I now suffer from debilitating flash backs that are caused by triggers associated with my diagnoses post traumatic stress disorder. I also suffer from many sleepless nights and constantly waking up in a state of panic. My tank has been able to help me deal with some of these symptoms and I feel it has not only become a part of my life, bput has become somewhat of a staple in my journey to recovery.

Don't get me wrong, I love my reef from a pure hobbyist standpoint as well, but it really helps me to disassociate from those memories for awhile and become consumed in my reef. Sure disassociating won't get any of us through all of this, but we can work on that in other ways, and well its not alcohol(unless its vodka! (dosing! ).

It's nice to be able to get a break when I need to while I work through this stuff. I think a lot of veterans are finding their way to this hobby for that reason. Paul B, who I'm sure some of you may have seen around the forums, is going on something like 65 years with his reef. Paul is also a Viet Nam veteran. I don't think it's necessarily a coincidence at all, but I did not have any idea this would occur when I started my reef, a pure interest in the hobby brought me in and it was an added bonus. I think if more knew they could benefit as well.

I will outline a few questions to set as data collection points, but I would also encourage you to use this as a forum of open discussion in regards to how you feel marine life and your tank may influence your disorder. I also want to note, while we see an influx in post-trauma from the recent wars, this should also apply to any veteran who has served in combat and feels they suffer from PTSD.

1. Did you serve in combat? If so, please note the time frames and conflicts.
2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD?
3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means?
4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD?
5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder?

Beyond these questions, please feel free to openly discuss anything you may feel to be of value in regards to this study.

While I understand many may be reserved to share this information openly, if you are more comfortable PMing me whatever you may wish to add, I can certainly post in a manner that will maintain your anonymity.

Thank you and I hope we can get some good conversation and data points generated and maybe be able to help some of our brothers and sisters who are also suffering.

I am a VietNam vet, 65 years old, served 20, disabled with PTSD and other things at 100%. I wanted a aquarium for years, my wife ( who was Okinawan and we divorced in 85) was against any aquariums, I couldnt keep in barracks and we were required to stay in barracks until we made E-7. I made E-7 6 months before I got out. I lived in a apartment and no pets. I went downhill and went to the VA and got my ratings it took eight years but did. I always wanted a aquarium and I only have a 40gal planted community tank. But it keeps me going and my current wife says I spend too much time on it and spending money on it. I do plan on going to saltwater and coral. But I have only been back into a year and taking it slow. The VA diagnosed me with all my disabilities ( PTSD of 50%) Yes I served in combat I was a MP working convoy escort in VietNam and my very first trip out we were ambushed ( 1970) but I was also a traffic accident investigator at 6 different bases including Germany and I also covered domestic abused cases, getting shot at by drunk husbands so that also took a toll.
My tank is me. It takes me away to think and worry about something else. I enjoy it as I don't enjoy going out to places( always have to sit facing the door)
I have a physiatrist and a physicologist and attend group sessions twice a month other than going to the Va and store I make a beeline for home. My tank calms me down and soothes me, my SUDS can go from a 9 or 10 back down to 3 or 4 just checking and watching my fish. I relate guys and thank you all for your servicd
 
1. Did you serve in combat? Jan 2004-April 2005
2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD? Everyday
3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means? Yes
4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD? Yes
5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder? Yes

I think any hobby we can do that keeps us outta our mind is a great thing. Coupled with therapy that is. I go to the va a lot I spent 20 weeks in inpatient treatment for PTSD and substance abuse. It has been a long road. But I am at a place that is pretty good considering where I have been in the past. Good luck to you all, thank you
 
1. Did you serve in combat? USMC 1991 (Served 88-2000)
2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD? Everyday
3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means? Yes
4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD? Yes
5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder? Yes, however this hobby is particularly helpful for me.
 
1. Did you serve in combat? yes Army OEF 8(May07-Aug08)
2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD? Yes
3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means? Yes was medically discharged for PTSD and TBI
4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD? yes
5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder? yes

I can only speak for myself when I say how my reef has helped me and maybe other vets can agree and others may not. But a little background first not sure if any has heard or seen the movie Restrepo. But that is about my unit when I was there. I was not in Battle Company, I was in Able Company which we all basically had the same living conditions and constantly in fire fights. It is an amazing movie and I encourage any and all people to watch the movie because it is a great documentary on the war and can give you a small idea on what all combat vets experienced in some similar way. As to the beginning of this post why I believe reef tanks help me and maybe other vets. I currently don't have one at the moment but have had a 125 and 400 which I miss greatly but had to break down after a divorce. But reef tanks are very much like military life. I mean everyday is almost the same you wake up **** shower shave formation then PT. After PT you change have breakfast then your day is planned out and you do as instructed. At the end of the day you have formation then your released and you have a few hours to yourself. Then you keep repeating this. It is like muscle memory. Same way for your tank its basically the same thing every day that you have to do with your tank to make sure it stays healthy and running properly much as the same way you would a soldier. And for me it was nice because it kept me on a schedule after I got and kept me busy. Then I found that on the days that I suffered more than I could find that bit of happiness of making my tank(soldier)better. Find a way to do some DIY project that would take me hours or days to perfect and then after words I would see the results and instantly feel better. Or on the days to wear I would have a bad day and just turn the TV off and just watch my fish swim so peacefully and graceful and watch my coral just sway with the current and I would get lost in my personal ocean. No matter my mood or what had set me off I could always find peace of mind in my tank either by just losing myself in watching it or constantly doing something to improve it. Building more shelves or a better light rack with adjustable cables. I always tried to look at my tank as if there was someone who had me in a giant tank. How well would I want that person to make my life and how comfortable would I want to live. So I always tried to improve my fish's living quarters and make it better for them and to constantly make sure that everything was as perfect as it could be. Hope this helps your study and im sure there will be plenty of people who disagree with what I have said but this is just my opinion on it and I love my reef and cant wait to start up one in the near future.
 
Matt if you want I can help you with the data analysis and run this through SAS using dummy coding variable and look for correlations and to see if anything is significant.
 
1. Did you serve in combat?
2003-2004 OIF
2006-OIF
2007- JSOTF-P
2008- OIF
2009- JSOTF-P
2010-2011 OEF
2012-2013 OEF
2014- OEF


2. Do you feel you suffer from PTSD? Not Sure
3. Were you diagnosed with PTSD either through the VA or other reputable means? Yes and MTBI
4. Do you feel this hobby has an impact on your PTSD? Yes
5. Do you feel that any hobby of equal self enjoyment would have similar impacts on your disorder? Not sure

I don't have an aquarium set-up now but prior to my last deployment it had an amazing effect. I would get home pop open some beer and just stand in my kitchen watching my fish for hours. It's like at that moment in time as long as they are happy I am happy. Problem I have is I always want a bigger better tank.
 
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