Purple Hornet Zoas

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I'm shocked at your response. You can call it what you prefer sir whether anyone agrees or not. I responded because I clearly didn't understand your definition and was trying to gain an understanding. I don't have the time nor the inclination to twist words. I ask you an honest question and this is how you reply and accuse me of all things starting a "fight"? Several people have ask you about the "LE" title and your response was civil. I ask an honest question and it seems you've made it personal. We can agree to disagree but I will never fight over corals or anything else in this forum. I won't apologize as my questions were valid and honest whether you believe it or not. I won't reduce myself and respond to your last sentence.

Mucho Reef
 
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slow growing, tends to be a must for a polyp to maintain the LE status Ok, lets get that point staight that, it's your opinion on what makes a specific polyp a LIMITED EDITION ,.

Can you please educate me on how is this compared to making a SPS/LPS as limited edition. From what I see with SPS/LPS le's. When you purchase a LE ( SPS / LPS ), you get what you pay for, IT DOESN'T change to different patterns, gain specks/spots/lines etc. , colors don't dull as much as a SPS, Dosn't change depending on tank parameters, lighting etc... am I right here???

Not getting on you, just trying to understand the whole polyp thing a LE thing. LE pretty much means to me it stands the tale of time, it looks the same from the parent no matter what, and from what I previously stated polyps usually morph etc. Which is why I think its really hard to ever put a LE tag on polyps. I really think we should coin a term, like " HARD TO GET " or something like it.

Hopefully this discussion can stay friendly and informative as well.:beer:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14897421#post14897421 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by socalmonty
How about if we change the direction of the thread and have folks with PHs post pics. It would be fun to see everyone's livestock.
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How is this one for you?
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I have been told it is real... And yes, those are in my tank. Send me a PM if you want to comment.

dsoz
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14897530#post14897530 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by IridescentLily
Because i'm obsessive compulsive as i explained in a post earlier on the other purple hornet thread.
So i thought i would suggest maybe taking the pictures from that other purple hornet thread, and posting those pics in this thread where you want them.
That way you'll have those pics AND any new pics which people post here, and this one can become your "THE purple hornet thread", and not just another purple hornet thread.
You know?

Anyway just a suggestion, sorry again for possibly hijacking again this evening. *bats eyelashes*
:p
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Sorry, Lilly. I don't know how to do any of that. If my suggestion was a bad one, that's okay, too. Don't want to muddy the threads for all you organized minds out there. Tomorrow, I'm still going to post my baby PH pic on this thread though (just for laughs).
 
I love those, dsoz! What a huge colony! You must really enjoy them. Did they start as a small frag or did you buy a large colony?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14898033#post14898033 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by socalmonty
Sorry, Lilly. I don't know how to do any of that.
If my suggestion was a bad one, that's okay, too. Don't want to muddy the threads for all you organized minds out there. Tomorrow, I'm still going to post my baby PH pic on this thread though (just for laughs).
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Oh no worries then. I can do that for you if ever you would like.
 
Oh it's easy, i thought it might be hard to do too but all you do is this:
1. right click on whatever photo.
2. Pick "properties".
3. highlight the url with your cursor
4. choose "Copy" to copy the url for the image.
5. Go to the post where you want to put it, and right click to "paste" the images url to your new post.
6. Type in front of the images url address.
7. Then type at the end of the url, with no spaces between the url address and the [ ]

That's it.
Off I go now, good luck.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14897932#post14897932 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 650-IS350
slow growing, tends to be a must for a polyp to maintain the LE status Ok, lets get that point staight that, it's your opinion on what makes a specific polyp a LIMITED EDITION ,.

Can you please educate me on how is this compared to making a SPS/LPS as limited edition. From what I see with SPS/LPS le's. When you purchase a LE ( SPS / LPS ), you get what you pay for, IT DOESN'T change to different patterns, gain specks/spots/lines etc. , colors don't dull as much as a SPS, Dosn't change depending on tank parameters, lighting etc... am I right here???

Not getting on you, just trying to understand the whole polyp thing a LE thing. LE pretty much means to me it stands the tale of time, it looks the same from the parent no matter what, and from what I previously stated polyps usually morph etc. Which is why I think its really hard to ever put a LE tag on polyps. I really think we should coin a term, like " HARD TO GET " or something like it.

Hopefully this discussion can stay friendly and informative as well.:beer:
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this is a valid point. which might even contribute to my definition of LE. zoas do morph, and once they do so, no longer would they be what they were. can only hope it doesnt morph, or becomes more attractive if it does.

LE is a state of being for zoas IMO. LE today is not nescessarily LE tomorrow. could morph, could suddenly get 1billion of them imported from the wild, some guy happens to have a 100g tank full of PH that he's had since 1999 and had no idea theyd become popular. thats just how it goes. chalices are another one that get tagged as LE often, and they can morph as well. even SPS, can look different in different tanks.

but you might be right, "hard to get" might be a better term. semantics mostly I think. that was my point about not needing to label them as LE or whatever if I was selling them. a purple hornet is a purple hornet, sell what it is and let the buyer decide if he wants it. calling it LE or hard to get, or rare. if you selling, its all just shady marketing. if the coral is all that (and I think it is) the picture and its general recognition should speak for itself. and if it doesnt blow someones skirt up, then they dont buy it, I dont sell it, world keeps spinning and no ones hurt.

my 2 cents anyway.
 
IMO, All the above "PH" could and probably are sold as "PH" or you may have gotten a picture of the morph with the most purple and sent a morph that looks allot like it.I am not saying its right but I am sure it happens alot.What could you do if your "PH"
was not up your standards.JMO but I would not pay over $25-$30 a polyp for any morph.
 
unfortunatly that is the downside to shady retailers. and part of my dislike of the named corals. people will undoubtably get taken for a ride because of it.

Ive seen 3 different "blue hornets" now that are all clearly different, and only 1 looking related to the purple hornet at all. then you have people like DSOZ above that did not get a PH, despite being told it was. its not an issue if he didnt pay an arm and a leg, because its still a fantastic looking zoa. but there is a reason that the PH sells for so much IMO, and to take any old purpleish with a green ring morph and call it a PH for 100$ a polyp, thats equivalent to theft IMO.
 
Their origin is from Kupang, Indonesia. According to Casey, the Purple Hornets came up quiet often on the supply list for almost every week before disappearing all together.

For the most part, the Purple Hornets went unnoticed by the overall public with an exception to few hardcore zoanthid collectors.
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Just a couple of sentences from an article posted from a few page back...think its getting pretty relevent now...
 
Just look at ebay. you have now different colored polyps or deep waters reffered to as LE, RARE, yellow, green, red, yellow/green hornet etc..... all marketing to sell a specific polyp to try to ride the coat tail hype of the real PH.

You also see a LOT on ebay and other places were RARE , LE etc terms added to a crappy , ok, dime a dozen looking polyp just to be able to sell it. very unfortunate.
 
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