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Red Gigantea's are Super Sensitive- Myth or True?
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Reefahholic
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Check out what he says here: Scroll to the bottom.
http://eddie-coral-adventures.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html?m=1
I'm not sure if I want to believe him now or not.
Either way, that Haddoni/Gig that the crab is on has some long dang tentacles for a Haddoni. It may be a hybrid.
Surely this guy is looking for purple spots...
http://eddie-coral-adventures.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html?m=1
I'm not sure if I want to believe him now or not.
Either way, that Haddoni/Gig that the crab is on has some long dang tentacles for a Haddoni. It may be a hybrid.
Surely this guy is looking for purple spots...
Toddrtrex
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IMO/E, the red one(s) are S. haddoni, no doubt in my mind.
In fact, look just like one I had several years ago (( lost it to an infected purple one, before any cure was even known about )), and I can assure you it was an S. haddoni.
Stressed, first received it,
Settled in, had it for about a year. (( longest one I had was in my care for 13 years, lost it to the same infection ))
In fact, look just like one I had several years ago (( lost it to an infected purple one, before any cure was even known about )), and I can assure you it was an S. haddoni.
Stressed, first received it,
Settled in, had it for about a year. (( longest one I had was in my care for 13 years, lost it to the same infection ))
Reefahholic
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Man...that's a real beauty Todd!
Hey you ever heard of a successful Haddoni propagation?
Hey you ever heard of a successful Haddoni propagation?
taylor t
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Todd's haddoni always looks good. He understands them well.
One can't go by short tents alone, sometimes, but it's never an absolute.
Here's one of my purple gigs, top gig. Tents were just bumps at the LFS.
Just because no one has a red gig, doesn't mean there isn't one. Just means none of US have one.
One can't go by short tents alone, sometimes, but it's never an absolute.
Here's one of my purple gigs, top gig. Tents were just bumps at the LFS.
Just because no one has a red gig, doesn't mean there isn't one. Just means none of US have one.
Reefahholic
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What on earth is he talking about?
Interesting looking at the underside..
Yeah, he seemed to know quite a bit, but after hearing some other comments he made, I question his ability to properly ID.
This one is 100% Haddoni. No doubt about that. With this one being exact same color, I'm thinking that it's extremely likely he miss ID'ed. Either way, the tentacles look a lot more longer than the Haddoni I've seen, and I'll take both of those red's please!
Hey Todd, did you see the last Red Haddoni on DD. It was sick!
Toddrtrex
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Thanks --- it was tough to lose it, almost as tough when I lost my blue one --- was when I had to have emergency back surgery and the sump ran dry. Though, I did find a new blue one at an LFS about 4 months ago, and it is doing great.
No, I haven't. Have heard a few claims, but that was it, and zero proof of long term (( over a year )) success.
The fact of the matter is that S. haddoni do not naturally split, like E. quads and Mags, which seems to be a prerequisite for them to be propagated. Been keeping anemones (( mainly S. haddonis )) for over 20 years now, and would never attempt to prop an S. haddoni.
Todd's haddoni always looks good. He understands them well.
One can't go by short tents alone, sometimes, but it's never an absolute.
Here's one of my purple gigs, top gig. Tents were just bumps at the LFS.
Just because no one has a red gig, doesn't mean there isn't one. Just means none of US have one.
Thank you very much.
Toddrtrex
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I did. For now, I am sticking with my newish blue one, and green one that I have had for 6+ years now. Planning on taking down my 40 breeder and 75 and getting a 6 foot tank, not sure what route I will go with it, but the blue one will have to move into that tank. Figure the change over will happen in about 4-6 months, until then, all the tanks are in a holding pattern.
Reefahholic
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Todd's haddoni always looks good. He understands them well.
One can't go by short tents alone, sometimes, but it's never an absolute.
Here's one of my purple gigs, top gig. Tents were just bumps at the LFS.
Just because no one has a red gig, doesn't mean there isn't one. Just means none of US have one.
Yeah, I've seen a lot like that. You would have never thought Gigantea unless you were able to see the purple verrucae's on the column.
Reefahholic
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Yeah I think I'm fixing to upgrade too.
I want a 180, or maybe 270/g.
I need depth. 24" sux!
D-Nak
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The blog posts that Jared is pulling the photos from is many years old. Eddie is an old friend of mine -- I met him back when he used to own a LFS called Tropical Paradise. He was one of the first to import RBTAs in large quantities. After he closed his LFS he tried different ventures such as coral farm and later became an exporter. He's gotten waaaaaay past where he was during the days of his posts. I believe that if asked today about his IDs, he will agree that he was incorrect. The last time I talked to Eddie, he told me that gigantea are plentiful at exporters, even more so than haddoni. I think the problem is that getting them to the U.S. in decent shape. Friends in colleagues in Asia tell me that gigantea are common.
I too am convinced that the nem at Greenwich Aquaria is either a red gig or a hybrid. Here's the thread:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2275962
However, it's the only one I've seen or heard of in captivity. Finding another will be extremely difficult. Most likely if found it will be mis-IDed as a haddoni, just like small mertensii come in as "misc. anemone".
Despite what people may claim, no one has a lock on gigantea, meaning wholesalers can't get them on demand. I've spoken to quite a few wholesalers about this, and many just define carpet anemones as Stichodactyla spp. so when LFS order them most oftentimes what they receive is a haddoni, and sometimes get lucky when a gig arrives instead. The only folks who can get them regularly are those few in the know who export directly from places like Vietnam, and these people keep their sources very close to the vest. They typically have their own collectors and have educated them on what to look for. I spoke to a wholesaler near me and he told me it's typically a language barrier that prevents more gigs for being collected -- the collectors simply don't know what to look for.
Anyone who says that they can immediately tell the difference between haddoni and gigantea haven't looked at enough of them. It sounds odd, but the reason I say this is because there are many haddoni with longer tentacles and bumps that looks like verrucae and many more gigantea with very short tentacles and faded verrucae.
I too am convinced that the nem at Greenwich Aquaria is either a red gig or a hybrid. Here's the thread:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2275962
However, it's the only one I've seen or heard of in captivity. Finding another will be extremely difficult. Most likely if found it will be mis-IDed as a haddoni, just like small mertensii come in as "misc. anemone".
Despite what people may claim, no one has a lock on gigantea, meaning wholesalers can't get them on demand. I've spoken to quite a few wholesalers about this, and many just define carpet anemones as Stichodactyla spp. so when LFS order them most oftentimes what they receive is a haddoni, and sometimes get lucky when a gig arrives instead. The only folks who can get them regularly are those few in the know who export directly from places like Vietnam, and these people keep their sources very close to the vest. They typically have their own collectors and have educated them on what to look for. I spoke to a wholesaler near me and he told me it's typically a language barrier that prevents more gigs for being collected -- the collectors simply don't know what to look for.
Anyone who says that they can immediately tell the difference between haddoni and gigantea haven't looked at enough of them. It sounds odd, but the reason I say this is because there are many haddoni with longer tentacles and bumps that looks like verrucae and many more gigantea with very short tentacles and faded verrucae.
D-Nak
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You need to 300DD!
Reefahholic
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Reefahholic
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I may just do it!
I'm tired of 24" small crap.
I need to spread my wings. I can make some good money. ;-)
I've stood in front of their display more times than I'd care to admit and am still not sure. Beautiful anemone though.
D-Nak
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Bummer. I trust you more than anyone else since you've seen it in person. Not even a possible hybrid? In the photos it definitely has gigantea characteristics.
It looks a bit like a Haddoni and a bit like a Gigantea, so I think very possibly a hybrid. That is the opinion of the owners of the store. If memory serves, it came to them mixed in amongst a shipment of BTAs.
addictedreefer
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I have seen it in person many times. At minimum, it is a hybrid.
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