redtop03's 360 gallon plywood adventure
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Rhodophyta
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They do grow! I bought a bag of at least twenty inch long cichlid fry for a $1 "pity bid", and thinking they might eat hair algae, put them out in my koi pond. That was LESS than a month ago! The hair algae is gone. A few koi-proof border plants are gone. They are eating more koi pellets now than the koi do. Most of them are 5" not counting the tail, but a few are even larger. And they are beefy fish, not long skinny things. The bag said, "20 Oreochromis tanganicae".<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15472622#post15472622 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mightyevil
:lol: :lol: :lol: yeah I did acquire the taste for their waters
So far I like my cichlids very much and I dont see them going anywhere in the near future. Plus the longer I have them the more they grow on me.
Rhodophyta
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The pet store passed on a myth to you about the oscars. Oscars that are fed live goldfish can eventually die from the indigestible fats in cyprinids. In nature, oscars rarely eat any fish, eating insects and crustaceans as the great bulk of their diet.<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15472255#post15472255 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by redtop03
I was cleaning the 55g 1st a week,very messy,the people at the pet store told me when they get that big they need to be fed live food,I'd done made my mind up to get rid of 'em though,so they got some really nice oscars to resale for nothing,I was starting saltwater too,so my interest in freshwater was gone
mightyevil
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They look South American but sound Tanganyikan (if there is such a name
)...five inches in a month, your pond must be huge.
redtop03
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since money is really tight for me right now,it's gonna be a while before I can buy the OM 4way that I want.....hopefully this will be a temporary thing but,I'm gonna have to do a close loop return manifold,so I can use my hammerhead pump....with help from Matt on Idea's......here is kinda what I have in mind.....
feel free to criticize(make fun of) my artistic skilz :lol:
in the first drawing,the water would enter from the side,and flow in a straight line across the rear of the manifold....less restriction on the pump,than adding a Tee to the center of the manifold
in the second,basically the same as the 1st but easier to hook to the pump,will this work as good as the other
and the 3rd,is how I would prefer,I really don't want the plumbing across the front of the tank,but if the flow would be better full loop then I'll do it
ex.1 and ex.2 I would use (10) 3/4" nozzles,
ex.3 I would use (6) 1" nozzles....all of the other PVC would be 1.5"
which would work the best,and how would be best to hook it to the pump....spa flex or hard line,after using the spa flex before,I really don't trust it for the pressure side of the plumbing,my glue joints didn't feel very sturdy but it never leaked,it was on a drain though....I could use it on the intake side of the pump and move the pump to the side of the tank for a more direct connection of the pump to the manifold,if that would work
feel free to criticize(make fun of) my artistic skilz :lol:
in the first drawing,the water would enter from the side,and flow in a straight line across the rear of the manifold....less restriction on the pump,than adding a Tee to the center of the manifold
in the second,basically the same as the 1st but easier to hook to the pump,will this work as good as the other
and the 3rd,is how I would prefer,I really don't want the plumbing across the front of the tank,but if the flow would be better full loop then I'll do it
ex.1 and ex.2 I would use (10) 3/4" nozzles,
ex.3 I would use (6) 1" nozzles....all of the other PVC would be 1.5"
which would work the best,and how would be best to hook it to the pump....spa flex or hard line,after using the spa flex before,I really don't trust it for the pressure side of the plumbing,my glue joints didn't feel very sturdy but it never leaked,it was on a drain though....I could use it on the intake side of the pump and move the pump to the side of the tank for a more direct connection of the pump to the manifold,if that would work
mightyevil
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No wall yet, too busy with things other than the tanks 
. I am determined to finish by next week. I did work very little on it, had to get rid of the last coat and redo the whole thing at the same time, I knew I was not able to get the same color so I decided to save myself some time.
. I am determined to finish by next week. I did work very little on it, had to get rid of the last coat and redo the whole thing at the same time, I knew I was not able to get the same color so I decided to save myself some time.
MattShack
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15542803#post15542803 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by redtop03
since money is really tight for me right now,it's gonna be a while before I can buy the OM 4way that I want.....hopefully this will be a temporary thing but,I'm gonna have to do a close loop return manifold,so I can use my hammerhead pump....with help from Matt on Idea's......here is kinda what I have in mind.....
feel free to criticize(make fun of) my artistic skilz :lol:
in the first drawing,the water would enter from the side,and flow in a straight line across the rear of the manifold....less restriction on the pump,than adding a Tee to the center of the manifold
in the second,basically the same as the 1st but easier to hook to the pump,will this work as good as the other
and the 3rd,is how I would prefer,I really don't want the plumbing across the front of the tank,but if the flow would be better full loop then I'll do it
ex.1 and ex.2 I would use (10) 3/4" nozzles,
ex.3 I would use (6) 1" nozzles....all of the other PVC would be 1.5"
which would work the best,and how would be best to hook it to the pump....spa flex or hard line,after using the spa flex before,I really don't trust it for the pressure side of the plumbing,my glue joints didn't feel very sturdy but it never leaked,it was on a drain though....I could use it on the intake side of the pump and move the pump to the side of the tank for a more direct connection of the pump to the manifold,if that would work
Willie, I thought your kids were grown. Where did you find the kids to draw that? :lol: payback
Any of the three would work. After looking at your drawings, on number 3, you could enter in the front corner before the first output and not worry about the tee in the corner. Either way, but coming in before the first output and just doing the loop might help balance the flow.
It would be from pump to one end of the loop, first output, 90 across the back and so on.
redtop03
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it's about time.....there's been more than 300 people look at my art work,and except you,no one has commented,I was about to pout up and everything :lol:
I think I might go with the 2nd drawing,I don't know if I could do like you said in drawing 3 ,and enter toward the front,it's gonna be close to the front with that output.....if I have room and can get it elbowed in there,and not stick out past the front of the tank,I'll go that rout,I like that idea best
what about plumbing my intake over to the side and putting the pump to one end....do you think that would cause problems with the pump not getting enough water?.......it would be a 90 out the back,then straight to another 90 into the pump,with the ball valve and a union and roughly 6 ft of straight pipe
I think I might go with the 2nd drawing,I don't know if I could do like you said in drawing 3 ,and enter toward the front,it's gonna be close to the front with that output.....if I have room and can get it elbowed in there,and not stick out past the front of the tank,I'll go that rout,I like that idea best
what about plumbing my intake over to the side and putting the pump to one end....do you think that would cause problems with the pump not getting enough water?.......it would be a 90 out the back,then straight to another 90 into the pump,with the ball valve and a union and roughly 6 ft of straight pipe
redtop03
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15544332#post15544332 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mightyevil
No wall yet, too busy with things other than the tanks
ah man,it was looking good too,the other way,but you can repaint it and it'll still look good,I have faith in you
mightyevil
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15544683#post15544683 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by redtop03
ah man,it was looking good too,the other way,but you can repaint it and it'll still look good,I have faith in you
Thanks!
As far as your design, I like the third one as well, why is this temporary? I think I will be making one like that for my 180 but it will be permanent. The third one will shoot the water out with more pressure due to it having less outputs. Why dont you use (2) 45 degree elbows instead of just 90s? Water will flow better.
redtop03
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15544972#post15544972 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mightyevil
Thanks!
why temporary,I have my mind set on the OM 4way,unfortunately the wallet that I sit on is empty :lol:
if this works really well I may skip the OM,but right now,I just want my hammerhead doing something besides setting in there looking pretty
I did some measuring,and I think I can work the 3rd design in there,and will more than likely use it....I plan on using 45's or the long sweep 90's in the corners
customcolor
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your going to need atleast 400gph out of each loc line (if its 3/4") other wise you are not realy going to feel much out of them. so option 3 would be 2400gph to make it wort the time. but the hammerhead is dbl that so i would be tempted to to do the 2nd one.
redtop03
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Thank you for the input......I'm probably gonna go with Matts suggestion of the pump input in the front of 1 side on design 3,after measuring,I thing I can make it fit.....I really don't want the plumbing across the front of the tank...the loc-lines don't come in 1" so I'm probably gonna use 6 of the Pacific Coast Flow Accelerators like these in this link:
http://captivatingmarine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=807
.....but for starters I'll just use 1" PVC for the return jets,and see if I even like the flow pattern from this design
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