Regal Angel Primer

I think it's very difficult if not impossible to tell exactly where the fish is coming from.
I prefer the term grey/blue belly vs. yellow belly regal. You can't change the color of the belly. But you can somewhat change how yellow or orange it is by what you feed it.
Yes. If there are distinguishable color differences between specimen from the Red Sea and those from the rest of the Indian Ocean then they are very hard to tell.
Coloration also depends a lot on the food the fish gets and how comfortable it feels.
My Sumatra Regals eat by now pretty much everything. They like flakes and pellets as much as frozen or algae. Same goes for my Bali, Philippine and Maldives regals. All are very opportunistic feeders that take what they can get.
So any mentioning that these fish are difficult to feed is utter nonsense. If they don't eat something is wrong with them.

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These are two of my 3 Regals. A Regal from the Red Sea and a Regal from Indo Pacific.

Other than the color I notice that my Red Sea Regal have narrower Blue and white bands as compare to the yellow. This cause my Regal to be much lighter and brighter color as a whole. Ty's Regal does not have this characteristic. I am not sure if everybody who have yellow chest Regal would chime in regarding the relative thickness of the yellow and the blue/white Bands.
I think I have reliable source that my Yellow chest Regal was from the Red Sea.
 
The large of my Sumatra pair has quite narrow stripes as well and has also a quite bright yellow. I think that is more related to size and age than origin (within the yellow subspecies).

Pacific regals appear primarily more blue because the yellow base color only remains between the bands and the chest and belly area turns gray-blue.

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Time flies: the first picture is what Michael (NY Aquatics) sent me when requested (10-10-2012), the second was taken recently. It is hard to believe it has been three years since getting her

Alton,
Do you have an update on this regal? I want to know if the misbar stayed or the bars have straightened out as the regal gets more mature.
 
I will try and snap one when I get home. The following was the latest greatest (bottom right)
 
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The 3rd bar from connected correctly while the 5th merged with the 4th bar half way.
Very cool! I think this fish would be a very good example of how the bars are develop as the fish mature.
 
Been acclimating and training to feed the female regal for over a week now. Finally comfortable of releasing her to the tank yesterday.

Day 3 of acclimating and feeding training. I allowed the existing regal to go in the box to show her how to rip the clam off. It worked because she wasn't feeding on it as aggressively.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHSomjRUv9A

Day 5 of the acclimating and feeding process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOhpZMO-o00

And finally released her yesterday. And took the video today. She has no problem with joining other fish to feed. The male, however, still chase her from time to time. But nothing aggressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg9WhhP7VyU


I am interested to know the techniques you use (and others) on training a regal to to feed out of the water column? My regal is feeding well and growing. Probably due to his fresh shell fish diet every day. Still spitting food in the water column. He likes nori banded to a rock as well.

This is her now

https://youtu.be/afJn7AGDVg4
 
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These are two of my 3 Regals. A Regal from the Red Sea and a Regal from Indo Pacific.

Other than the color I notice that my Red Sea Regal have narrower Blue and white bands as compare to the yellow. This cause my Regal to be much lighter and brighter color as a whole. Ty's Regal does not have this characteristic. I am not sure if everybody who have yellow chest Regal would chime in regarding the relative thickness of the yellow and the blue/white Bands.
I think I have reliable source that my Yellow chest Regal was from the Red Sea.
Thanks Minh for taking a look at my regal. I wonder if others have observed the same as you regarding the thickness of the blue bars.
I think it's very difficult if not impossible to tell exactly where the fish is coming from.
I prefer the term grey/blue belly vs. yellow belly regal. You can't change the color of the belly. But you can somewhat change how yellow or orange it is by what you feed it.
For simplicity sake, I'm okay with the yellow belly or gray belly descriptor. [emoji4]
 
I am interested to know the techniques you use (and others) on training a regal to to feed out of the water column? My regal is feeding well and growing. Probably due to his fresh shell fish diet every day. Still spitting food in the water column. He likes nori banded to a rock as well.

This is her now

https://youtu.be/afJn7AGDVg4

Beautiful fish. Getting the fish to eat out of the column is not difficult when the fish is already eating shell fish on the shell. When you feed it shell fish, does it drop to the bottom? If so, that's the problem. You have to change its eating habit. To start, clip the shell fish onto the side of the glass. You can also score the shell fish with a razor a couple times so that when it bites on it, little pieces fall off. At first, it may not know what to do with the falling pieces but it will learn that it's food and will eat them pretty quickly. After the regal has been eating food on a clip, you will see that it comes up for you when you get near the tank. It thinks food is coming.
Now you can take the same food it eats(Although you really want to vary its diet, feed other stuff including pellets and flakes) and cut it up and use a turkey baster to feed it. When the fish comes up for food, spray the food out slowly and see what it does. It may not like it at first but keep trying. Offer food on a clip if it's really not eating the food from the turkey baster. My angels also comes right up to the baster and eat from it.
You really have to study the fish and know what it wants to do and slowly persuade it to what you prefer it to do. It takes some time but once you got an angel eating(anything and anyway), it will eat whatever you feed them and however you feed them. They are very robust fish.
 
Beautiful fish. Getting the fish to eat out of the column is not difficult when the fish is already eating shell fish on the shell. When you feed it shell fish, does it drop to the bottom? If so, that's the problem. You have to change its eating habit. To start, clip the shell fish onto the side of the glass. You can also score the shell fish with a razor a couple times so that when it bites on it, little pieces fall off. At first, it may not know what to do with the falling pieces but it will learn that it's food and will eat them pretty quickly. After the regal has been eating food on a clip, you will see that it comes up for you when you get near the tank. It thinks food is coming.
Now you can take the same food it eats(Although you really want to vary its diet, feed other stuff including pellets and flakes) and cut it up and use a turkey baster to feed it. When the fish comes up for food, spray the food out slowly and see what it does. It may not like it at first but keep trying. Offer food on a clip if it's really not eating the food from the turkey baster. My angels also comes right up to the baster and eat from it.
You really have to study the fish and know what it wants to do and slowly persuade it to what you prefer it to do. It takes some time but once you got an angel eating(anything and anyway), it will eat whatever you feed them and however you feed them. They are very robust fish.


thanks for the tips. Very logical really. When I feed the shell fish it is always on the half shell still banded to a rock. The scoring with a razor blade trick worked a treat. She only likes taking small bites, if she ripped off a chunk which was pretty big it would be spat out again. With time she has grown with confidence and keeping down larger chunks compared to say 4 weeks ago which is good news. She does come up to the tank thinking its dinner time so I will try the turkey baster. Shall I try chopping the shell fish up and feeding via the turkey baster first? Then move onto mysis etc if she accepts?

When she rips nori off the banded rock I have occasionally observed her taking small bits out of the column which she has ripped off which is a good sign. She prefers her food stationery for the time being though that's for sure.
 
I would still mix some of the shell fish into your mysis. I'm sure it will eat what you feed given some time and training. The good thing here is that the regal is the only large fish in your tank. So feeding it is a lot more manageable.
I had to do a lot of water changes when I was training my two regals to eat. But it's worth every grain of salt.
 
Can I keep one of these in a 180 with Tangs, and from what I see other have softies and LPS in their tanks so I assume they are safe?
 
Tank size would be OK.

Tank mates are a different issue. What other fish are in that tank precisely and how large are they.

Regals are usually SPS safe, LPS are hit and miss, softies are the most likely to suffer.

Regals especially like to take Kenya trees apart - just for the fun of it. At least that was my experience with my previous Pacific Regal pair.
 
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