Regenerating GFO

Bob,

I'm going to let it sit one more day as recommended by JP. Next time I will try to track the regeneration progress more closely to get better understanding of the time required for the soak.

And no, the GFO is not disintegrating :D
 
Thanks for the update.. I'll be following this thread even though I use strontium nitrate for my phosphate reduction..
 
Tatu,

Do you think bleach (sod. hypochlorite) would work? Or perhaps pool chlorine powder (calcium hypochlorite)?


That depends on the size of the shrew or species of Shrew vs species or size of the Mole :) Now, if we are talking about Pigmy Screws vs Water Screws, then...................................................


I'm a cabinet maker and I've heard of, and used, a lot of different types of screws. But I can honestly say I've never heard of a pygmy screw or a water screw. Are these phillips head, torx, or flat-head?
 
The idea being to remove organics that are coating the surface? That might be useful, but the 1 M NaOH may already do that by dissolving some of the surface.
 
Where would an average dude like me find NaOH powder? That's really the only reason I ask, since both sodium and calcium hypochlorite are quite easy to find.


I think the downer with the hypochlorite would be the need to use a dechlorinator to bind up the chlorine. I forgot about that.
 
Where would an average dude like me find NaOH powder? That's really the only reason I ask, since both sodium and calcium hypochlorite are quite easy to find.


I think the downer with the hypochlorite would be the need to use a dechlorinator to bind up the chlorine. I forgot about that.

A while back, there was some at Lowes or Home Depot (forgot which). The product is called "Roebic Crystal Drain Opener". It's 100% NaOH. http://www.roebic.com/bathroom.htm

You might also find a business that sells it for soapmaking, or for making biodiesel. Over here, there's a company called Technichem that manufactures industrial cleaners. They sell NaOH, or KOH by the gallon container. It's about $2/lb last I checked. :)
 
red

"pigmy" screws are very tiny screws, kind shaped like a tiny human. Hence the name "pigmy" and not pygmy.They are half torx and half flat-head. "water" screws are for under water use. They are a cross between hex-head and phillips. Are you stupid or what ??? You don't know anything do you :) I have a whole box full of both kinds. Need a picture or what !!!


AND
That post never said "screw" but shrew. I checked it 5 times. Randy change it, just to make me look bad ..........again:(



'bleach"
Nope red, bleach is a no go. You need something with OH- ions. Then there is lacing the GFO with bleach. But bleach does have a high pH



You need to be very careful with crystal drain types as some have flake aluminum added to them as a catalyst and at times Sodium nitrate added
 
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that damn Randy, messing with everyone's posts :wildone:



Thanks for the info on the bleach no-no. Last thing we need is a slow-release chlorine pellet for our tank.



As for the drain cleaner, wouldn't the aluminum (I thought it was magnesium?) flakes be obvious?
 
As for the drain cleaner, wouldn't the aluminum (I thought it was magnesium?) flakes be obvious?

Be sure to only use a product labeled 100% NaOH, such as "Roebic Crystal Drain Opener". However, it's apparently not listed on the Lowe's website anymore...
 
Yes red the flakes are rather silver and rather obvious :) And I agree with "kay" last post, be sure it is that brand only unless you know for absolute sure.with some other brand. And it is Al and not Mg in drain cleaners. Mixing NaOH and magnesium is not a bright idea :)
 
Hey, this seems to work :D

I changed GFO this morning to regenerated version and PO4 has dropped from 0.07 to 0.03 ppm (typically I have *higher* PO4 at evening because of all the feeding during day).
 
Thanks for the link!

I don't have any visible CaCO3 deposits on the GFO yet it bubbles nicely with vinegar :D

I'll use vinegar bath as a first stage next time.
 
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