Ron Popeils Anemone Reproduction System!

there is a wholesaler who swears by the merits of ozone in his anemone holding system. what do you think this does for anemone specific environments?

Oxidizes organic waste, kills microorganisms, raises redox... generally makes the water much cleaner at a micro level and raises the ability of the system to cope with waste. Makes your protein skimmer more efficient by breaking down proteins (make sure your skimmer is ozone safe otherwise it will degrade the skimmer parts). Combined with UV, it makes the water almost antiseptic and kills all waterborne pathogens. You don't want it getting into the livestock side of the system, but I love ozone and have never had a problem with it.
 
Oxidizes organic waste, kills microorganisms, raises redox... generally makes the water much cleaner at a micro level and raises the ability of the system to cope with waste. Makes your protein skimmer more efficient by breaking down proteins (make sure your skimmer is ozone safe otherwise it will degrade the skimmer parts). Combined with UV, it makes the water almost antiseptic and kills all waterborne pathogens. You don't want it getting into the livestock side of the system, but I love ozone and have never had a problem with it.

Couple of questions:

1 how do I know if skimmer is ozone safe?

2 what do you mean you don't want it getting into the livestock side? are you saying it will kill his clowns or fish?

Thanks
 
Couple of questions:
1 how do I know if skimmer is ozone safe?

2 what do you mean you don't want it getting into the livestock side? are you saying it will kill his clowns or fish?

(1) The skimmer manufacturer will say so. (For example, look here and see FAQ #2). Also note that a skimmer may be ozone safe, but your airline tubing will probably not be. Make sure to buy special ozone resistant airline tubing (and maybe even a few ozone safe check valves). They will sell all this stuff wherever you buy an ozone generator.

(2) Ozone is a strong oxidizing agent and will break down organic compounds. If it gets into lung tissue it will cause irritation or damage. So it is important to keep the ozone in your skimmer and sump, and not allow high levels of it into your display tank. Fortunately ozone is a very unstable molecule, and will degrade in air even if it doesn't react with anything, so it is not too difficult to keep it contained. Just run the skimmer output over carbon, and any ozone leftover from the skimmer will immediately react with the carbon and break down. It is not difficult. Just don't run a venturi with ozone into your display tank :)
 
FWIW, a typical hobbyist running ozone through a skimmer will not likely kill all that many bacteria. Too little ozone for too little exposure time.

If killing bacteria is the goal, go with a UV. :)

I discuss it in detail here:

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 1: Chemistry and Biochemistry
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-03/rhf/index.php

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 2: Equipment and Safety
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 3: Changes in a Reef Aquarium upon Initiating Ozone
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-05/rhf/index.php
 
this system has undergone several changes since its inception. initially designed to support several heteractis magnifica anemones and coming up with a structured method of sexual or asexual reproduction, after a rapid deterioration of the several specimens i was housing, it then shifted its purpose towards working with antibiotics and said anemones. from there, the system ended up housing animals and corals i couldnt keep in my main display until finally it has become a collection of all my favorite clownfish species. almost all of them anyways. from here it will no doubt evolve into attempts at spawning each of these fish and then the rabbit hole just continues...

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i have added a calcium reactor, biopellets and a 57w UV sterilizer. i feed extremely heavily in this system, and figured the biopellets can help shoulder the burden the skimmer and refugium share. the UV sterilizer was given to me, so i would use it and see what happens.

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the refugium houses four or five different types of naughty crabs, from big shiny black ones to fuzzy teddy bear crabs. i have a lone allardi female in there as well as a pair of kelloggi seahorses.

the system currently houses the following clownfish:

akindynos
chrysopterus
allardi
latezonatus
occellaris

because i couldn't let winwood get away with his beautiful trio, i acquired a quad of chrysopterus. with a fairly interesting story as well.

after waiting for months and months for more chrysopterus to become available, i finally received an email that two were ready. i also was ready to pull the trigger on two captive bred latz as well. so, i placed the order, took the morning off work and waited for them to arrive.

the box finally arrived, my QT tanks were ready…..but instead of a four clownfish, there was a large bandit angel and some other tiny little fish. wow. first time id actually ever seen that fish in real life. pretty awesome…but…not mine. i received an email from the shipper. there were two packages going out at the same time. the last names on the labeling were only one letter different. the other guy received my clowns, i received his angel. i was told it was extremely important to get the fish re oxygenated, repackaged and sent back out. whatever it cost, whatever i wanted, just get them back in the mail alive. so, i did. deoxygenated. reheat packed. resealed up and dropped off at the local UPS less than an hour after opening the box. unfortunately, the guy who received my clowns was not in a position to mail me back my clowns.
according to the supplier, this was a shame because they were the nicest pair of chrysopterus he had ever seen. naturally.
so, to make sure i was satisfied, the supplier offered to refund my money, ship my my original order with an additional pair for helping him out. it wasn't until later in the afternoon when i was tooling through reef builders that i saw the fish that had been in my garage just that morning. potentially a new species of randalls anthias! the whole time i thought the bandit angel was the reason the supplier was in such a panic. but no, the other, nondescript fish was the real prize. it was on its way to a genetics lab to figure out its true identity.

pretty crazy huh? anyways, a month later and four chrysopterus and two latezonatus clowns show up and….well here they are.
 
i have a strong suspicion the blue stripes were collected together, as they have never shown any aggression towards each other. in the past i have known these fish to be very aggressive towards conspecifics. but these four just sort of all do their own thing. the standard submissive dances here and there, but thats it. i am sadly anticipating the loss of color from the largest female, but am trying some higher quality foods in hopes it will help slow or stop the loss of the yellows.

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the akindynos were brought back from california in the luggage of one of my coworkers. found for an amazing price and brought back with him knowing i would fancy them. the female had almost no water left in her bag. her eyes were wide eyed, gills stuck open breathing super hard. i thought for sure they both were going to die. they had been packaged with oxygen, triple bagged and metal clamped….apparently not well enough. but magically, they survived.

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the latz are so tiny, but so hungry. they are certainly the quickest to respond to food hitting the water. i am very excited about their development. they seem to have much larger eyes than any of the other juvenile clowns ive seen….

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and then, the lone allardi. i started with two who were fine and dandy at the LFS, but then one turned black and decided to try to kill the other. the black one was banished to the refugium. i liked this ones colors more, so she was allowed to stay.
 
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so now i had something i had been striving years to obtain, an entire clownfish collection. i did not want to lose them to the floor of my garage and i have some of the wrasses ive put in this system. i immediately went to my local plastic shop, purchased some hollow acrylic rods.

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i sized the pieces appropriately, drilled matching holes approximately an inch or so apart. used myself some weldon 16, and glued the frame together.

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i then sewed some 4 lb fishing line through the holes. this was time consuming.

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the finished prototype.

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and now in use.

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this thread is essentially invisible. while i could have threaded closer together, i think this is sufficient for the size of my clowns. i am very confident this will prevent any accidental deaths.

so now i feed them several times a day. as wide a variety as i can. mainly to keep them confident and reduce the stress of my presence. but i also am very hopefully i can get them to spawn in short order and get back to raising baby fish again.

thanks for following!
 
Man all look so good! How and where did you get the 4 chrysopterus from. They appear to be from the Marshalls or Micronesia from their coloration. Do you know location of their collection? Good luck brudda. I'm happy you finally were able to get some more chrys.
 
Just curious, how much do you guys feed your anemones? Years ago I had an enormous mertensii, and it was a glutton of epic proportions.
 
blue stripes generally are readily available. but they have a dismal rate of success. absolutely dismal. however, i have had terrific success with a particular source lately, PM me if youd like their contact info.

as for the mags, i too would like to have had some progress lately. it will come, i am committed and certainly would like to move forward with some experimentation in the next few months.
 
What size are those? I was in there yesterday looking for 48''x12'' and all they have is 36x18 and 48x24.. :(

And thanks!
 
Really love your collection. Super nice set up and great selection of clowns... Especially the Latz.. Very nice
 
deangelr, my racks are closer to 72" x 24", because even with the 48" long tanks i still have plenty of room. being able to hold the weight i was looking at was one of the main qualifications of this particular rack as well.

mike, being out in the garage, the temperature of this system fluctuates, but stays between 73 and 79 degrees. this was actually part of the reason i decided to try the latz out in this system. my main displays run between 80 and 83 usually. that being said, many people keep their latz at 80 with no problems even though in the wild this species tends to be found in the mid to lower 70s...

8220, thank you! i would prefer to have the blue stripes in a huge carpet anemone or an endless colony of bright green bubble tips, but the rose anemones will have to do for now. i am very much looking forward to the latz being adult fish!
 
an update!
first, an overview of the system. since my last update i have upgraded my lid set up, added some new livestock (some of it unintentionally) and everything is currently running smoothly.



the first fish on my tour were purchased in california as mislabled bicinctus clowns. these are my akindynos. i love the chocolate color of the female, the yellowish brown fins and her blue bands. i still worry that she has some sort of internal parasite, as she does not put on mass in spite of how often i feed. the pair resides in a purple long tentacle anemone with a group of orange stripe cardinals.





as we all know, clownfish are terribly difficult to photograph. always moving. i had wanted to set this tank up as a shallow seagrass set up. but the plants struggle to grow. i have turtle grass that is struggling, some shoal grass and some caulerpa. and lots of bryopsis. cucumbers work through the sand.



below the akindynos are the white tail chrysopterus. theyre impossible to get a good picture of.


their tank houses three mertensii anemones.






these two fish spent about two weeks cleaning rocks all over the tank....and then stopped. i havent been able to figure out why. i am also considering separating two of the smaller mertens from them, so that they only have one to focus on. strangely the female will always go to the smaller mertens and just stare at its mouth through out the day. only this anemone, and very often.
 
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