Sangokai supplements !

Pederreefnerd

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Hi there,

Been a loyal KZ user for years, but just seen this productline, anyone here on RC with Hands On with this product?

Plz give feedback - I myself have ordered aledy, to see if its better - the price is certainly better:beer:
 
Dear Peder,

obviously you are the first RC member using the sangokai products. If you have any questions on the products and product application, feel free in contacting me. Haven't been active in RC for a couple of years now.

Cheers
Jörg Kokott (sangokai)
 
Dear David

thanks for your comment and interest. Actually, the sangokai system has nothing in common with the zeovit method!

I guess the main difference between the sangokai reef aquarium system compared to many or even any other is, that it doesn't primarily focus on the establishment of an oligotrophic environment (which is characterised by low inorganic nutrient levels), so, on the direct removal of accumulated nutrients. What the sangokai system does, is to apply a set of physiologically important and specially selected micronutrients, both inorganic and (most of them) organic. The provision of these nutrients develop a complex organismal structure in the aquarium ecosystem, and as a conequence the food chains expand. This is mostly due to the increase in population growth of the microbial community (bacteria, microalgae and the microfauna), but also because corals and macroalgae grow healthy due to an optimal nutrient supply.

Thus, nutrient elements like nitrogen or phosphorous stay bound in the food chain in various active (reduced) forms, and the accumulation of the nutrient elements as stable oxidised forms like nitrate or phosphate is minimized. So, the decrease in nitrate and phosphate levels is a secondary effect, through the increase in ecosystem productivity and nutrient recycling!

Actually, the sangokai systems works very similar to the natural tropical coral reef, because it adopts the functional principle of a broad spectrum of nutrients which are constantly available in small portions and introduced into a highly diverse organism community.

The sangokai systems works with any filtration methode, whether it is zeolite or biopellet filtration, or the Berlin methode, DSB, whatever. All you need to do is to dose a set of 3 basic nutrient products. These products are called sango nutri-amin basic (amino acids and amino sugars), nutri-element basic (various organic micronutrients, most of them play a role in energy metabolism), and sango nutri-spur basic (inorganic and organic forms of trace metals). Additionally, two products called kai mineral and kai geos provide important minerals, both dissolved and particulate, which increase the growth of calcifying and filter feeding organisms.

If you have any further questions don't hesitate in asking me!

Cheers
Joerg
 
Hi,

the products are sold within Europe, but shipments to Asia can be arranged, that's no problem. If you are interested you may contact me by email.

Where are you located if I may ask?

Cheers
Jörg
 
Hi,

the products are sold within Europe, but shipments to Asia can be arranged, that's no problem. If you are interested you may contact me by email.

Where are you located if I may ask?

Cheers
Jörg

i am located in Singapore. so to start off , what do i need ? or can i combine with the use with Zeovit ?
 
Hi,

the basics are those products which I have already mentioned:

3-set nutrient products: nutri-amin basic, nutri-element basic, nutri-spur basic (0,25-0,5 mL/100L /24 US gallons on a daily basis) - may be used with a dosing pump
+ kai mineral (2-3/week dosed manually)
+ kai geos (1x/week dosed manually)

I have a dosing scheme available on the sangokai website (in english) with information on how to start the sangokai dosing and how to increase the initial dosing volumes.

You can still use the zeolite in your zeolite filter, of course, however, as I do not know what kind of nutrients Korallenzucht works with in their products, I cannot exclude potential negative effects.

However, you should keep in mind that the sangokai micronutrients increase the nutrient cycling and nutrient binding in microbial/invertebrate biomass. Thus, your zeolite filtration is efficiently supplied with important nutrients and you should keep an eye on nitrate and phosphate to prevent an acute growth limitation.

Cheers
Joerg
 
Hi Joerg,

Thx alot for yr comments - Im really happy with yr products.
I run a ulns, and the nutrition given from u, made a big difference.

I do like u write whats inside yr bottles(opposite to Zeo) but would like u to have an english speaking homepage(and if u want to sell more, its a must :-)

Only product I havent tried yet is the sangokai shoku nutricoral zx liquid I HED
Can u tell me a some about this... Im still waiting to receive it

Kind regards

Peder
 
Hi
I wanted to give this thread a bump to see if anyone else has started using this product?

Happy Holidays!
 
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