Can you find out how many they sell a month? Not only the white spotted but other sharks to. I am kind of curious.
Sharks in Home Aquariums
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Can you find out how many they sell a month? Not only the white spotted but other sharks to. I am kind of curious.
krj-1168
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10-20 per month is quite low when wholesalers like Sea Dwelling Creatures in L.A.. As a couple of months ago they(SDC) had 200+ Tank raised (Marbled "Cat Sharks") White-spotted Bamboo pups.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lelCJweGTOE
Also keep in mind that there are literally thousands of pet and fish shops in North America. Most of which tend to by their stock directly from wholesalers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lelCJweGTOE
Also keep in mind that there are literally thousands of pet and fish shops in North America. Most of which tend to by their stock directly from wholesalers.
Fishfirst
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Wow, thanks for reminding me why I don't do business with SDC. Their tanks look like crap. I bet a lot of those sharks died... the tanks are pretty cloudy. Anyway how many of these are left? I am aware of how many stores there are but only a small percentage should get these sharks in on a regular basis due to the fact that they require such a large system... not sure how ethical it is. The 20 bamboo sharks are down to 5 in qm, and these became available like 3 weeks ago.
This is fairly real time (at least it is updated several times per day). Internet is a wonderful thing. But whatever, I guess I know nothing... I am not going to get into some stupid ****ing match
I watch groups of animals on QM all the time. I buy when there are enough of them left to get what I want, but not fresh off the plane.
Sounds like you've been far luckier with your stock lists than I've experienced.
Zoodiver
As seen on TV
I'm with Bill, I never believe a stock list.
The video of the white spotted bamboo sharks at SDC reminded me of what out holding tanks looked like at the aquarium in MN when we were breeding various bamboo species - more sharks that water. Haha.
As for wild caught pet trade sharks being sold into the US, I would say the number is in the hundreds per month. At this point none of the US captive breeding is going to make a huge in that figure. That being said, I know a handful of facilities that are focusing on specifically elsamo breeding for the hobby. The idea is to be able to take the full demand off of the more common species of wild caught sharks suited for the pet trade instead of just a few captive breed animals here and there.
The video of the white spotted bamboo sharks at SDC reminded me of what out holding tanks looked like at the aquarium in MN when we were breeding various bamboo species - more sharks that water. Haha.
As for wild caught pet trade sharks being sold into the US, I would say the number is in the hundreds per month. At this point none of the US captive breeding is going to make a huge in that figure. That being said, I know a handful of facilities that are focusing on specifically elsamo breeding for the hobby. The idea is to be able to take the full demand off of the more common species of wild caught sharks suited for the pet trade instead of just a few captive breed animals here and there.
krj-1168
Member
Excellent points.
And if the idea of hundreds of sharks being sold per month in the US sounds high. Just think about all of the other marine fishes which are sold in the thousands per month sold in the U.S.
While Captive breeding of benthic sharks is really the only sustainable choice for private shark aquarists in the long term. It will take hundreds of elasmo breeding facilities to completely remove the need for importing wild sharks into the pet trade.
Agree 100%
reefgoddess808
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I have loved sharks since I was a little girl. The allure of having one swimming in my home every day is tempting, but my conscience would never let me actually have them. This is of course just my opinion on the matter, I love them too much to keep them captive in my home. If breeding programs would help diminish the need for wild caught I feel we should all be doing whatever we can to make this happen on a larger scale. Of course there is more to consider with sharks than say clown fish so its not as though the average person could have a home start up, but surely we could have more aquaculture facilities. Just a thought. Perhaps if I ever hit the power ball Ill start shark breeding programs across the country! LOL
krj-1168
Member
The all out restriction of sharks available to private aquarists, by governmental law - isn't the answer. Such things need to be approached with common sense and some rational logic.
IMPO - Arizona's state law regarding private aquarists keeping sharks goes overboard. As in that state - a private aquarist needs a "wild animal" permit in order to keep a bamboo shark or a catshark in their home.
Private Aquarists are capable of doing so much. While the average private aquarist may not be able to keep much more than a small benthic shark like a bamboo, an epaulette, or a catshark. A wealthy private aquarist with deep pockets, and the required space may be able to keep more active requiem sharks like Whitetip & Blacktip reefs for life.
IMPO - Arizona's state law regarding private aquarists keeping sharks goes overboard. As in that state - a private aquarist needs a "wild animal" permit in order to keep a bamboo shark or a catshark in their home.
Private Aquarists are capable of doing so much. While the average private aquarist may not be able to keep much more than a small benthic shark like a bamboo, an epaulette, or a catshark. A wealthy private aquarist with deep pockets, and the required space may be able to keep more active requiem sharks like Whitetip & Blacktip reefs for life.
krj-1168
Member
It's it wouldn't be that hard for an private aquarist to breed sharks as some may think. As most of the small benthic sharks(bamboos, eppies, catsharks & small wobbies) can be bred in round ponds of only 6-8 feet in diameter. As Chris Avila of Canadian Marine Aquaculture, has pointed out. Presently has about 20 species of benthic sharks. And he started out 7 years ago - with just a couple of sharks.
Zoodiver
As seen on TV
Most bamboo sharks are like rabbits when it comes to breeding. Keep them wet and fed, sooner or later (assuming you have a male/female pair), you will have eggs... loads of them.
The trick with sharks is you need to think outside the tank. People try to figure out a tank size for them. Pre-made aquariums/tanks aren't the cost effective way to house sharks. Fiberglass or PVC pools work much better for 1/4 the price. I have a 1,200 gallon shark pool set up that I have less than $500 total into (pool and related filtration). I don't always have it up and running, but it does the trick when I need to house a shark or three.
Typical above ground swimming pools also work great fi you want something with more volume (3,000 - 15,000 gallons). I love using pools made by Intex. They are of great quality and suit the needs of many smaller ORV sharks (black tip reefs, bonnets, sharp nose etc...).
The trick with sharks is you need to think outside the tank. People try to figure out a tank size for them. Pre-made aquariums/tanks aren't the cost effective way to house sharks. Fiberglass or PVC pools work much better for 1/4 the price. I have a 1,200 gallon shark pool set up that I have less than $500 total into (pool and related filtration). I don't always have it up and running, but it does the trick when I need to house a shark or three.
Typical above ground swimming pools also work great fi you want something with more volume (3,000 - 15,000 gallons). I love using pools made by Intex. They are of great quality and suit the needs of many smaller ORV sharks (black tip reefs, bonnets, sharp nose etc...).
krj-1168
Member
I knew that pools/ponds were cheaper. But I didn't realize that it is possible to set up a 1,000+ gallon pool and filtration for less than it would cost for a 180 gallon glass tank (no filtration).
So basically - if you want to keep sharks - forget getting the 180+ gallon glass or acrylic aquariums. Get at 750-1,200 gallon pool. The sharks will be happier, and you will have more money in your wallet.
Zoodiver
As seen on TV
Yep, Intex pools are ruggid and cheap.
Another route I've helped people set up is the American Farmland 8 ft x 2 ft pool. $350, a touch over 600 gallons and PLENTY of space for many of the various bamboo and cat sharks.
http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/american-farmlandreg;-round-tank-8-x-2-ft-plastic
Another route I've helped people set up is the American Farmland 8 ft x 2 ft pool. $350, a touch over 600 gallons and PLENTY of space for many of the various bamboo and cat sharks.
http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/american-farmlandreg;-round-tank-8-x-2-ft-plastic
I have the 6ft version of this. http://www.dreampond.com/show-tanks-viewing-bowls.html
You can get the bay knockoff one for $150. http://www.ebay.com/itm/340-Gal-Fle...778?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd46926da
For filtration you can get a brute can for $20 and 150 pot scrubbers for another $20. Click on the picture to see the video.
You can get the bay knockoff one for $150. http://www.ebay.com/itm/340-Gal-Fle...778?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd46926da
For filtration you can get a brute can for $20 and 150 pot scrubbers for another $20. Click on the picture to see the video.
TheBookWorm
New member
Sharks are great. I wish I could keep them, and once designed a huge 50,000 gallon "L" shaped tank that a house would have to be designed around. It was 10' deep, 10' wide, and each of the lengths were 30', I think.
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