sharks

I would listen to Todd and sugar magnolia they know what their talking about that's why their team rc I rember when I first joined and thought they were nuts when I saw on a few other websites that I could keep a hippo tang in 75 I tried it a long time ago and it messed up my tank and now I always will listen to them thanks guys for helping me with my tank
 
Ok. the tank im getting has no sump. I plan on getting a hang on skimmer,live rock and live sand. Does live sand filter like live rock? Thanks

A HOB skimmer will only do so much on a heavily stocked tank.

You may want to pick up a few books and put this whole stocking thing on the back burner for a while. It appears as though you still have a lot to learn before getting any of the fish you want to keep.

Maybe have that be a long term goal in the hobby. Start a smaller tank first, it will teach you the basics of filtration and husbandry. As already stated, this hobby is all about waiting. You dont have to look hard to find people who will rush their set up and run into problems down the road.
 
Dude stud words.... Great stuff man. I have a 75g fresh and a spare 50. I can put the fresh fish in 50 and turn 75 into salt. Good idea to start off? Also, my favorite fish are CLOWNFISH and the bj triggerfish. Could i keep these two in my 75? I mean if they reach full size, by that time, I will have a bigger tank for them. Thanks for time,knowledge,help and effort.
 
A pair of clowns would be great in a 75, but I would skip the trigger -- it is best to get a fish for the tank that you currently have, and not on that you hope to have in the future. Trust me, life has a way of getting in the way. I was suppose to have my "big" tank 5 years ago, still don't have it.
 
You would need to get a small one to fit in a 75, and small triggers will grow a heck of a lot faster than 2 inches every 2 years. Would expect it to grow 2 inches in about 6 months.
 
The trigger in a 75? No, it wouldn't, IMO. Like I stated before, stock your current tank, for the fishes lifespan, and not for the tank that you hope to have.
 
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The guy made a joke, geez. Start tossing around that kind of language and you're only going to get more people bashing you and calling you an idiot.


As for your original question...

I don't know about angelfish. I do have some experience with a shark. A bamboo shark lived over 8 years in a ~320 (maybe 350g) custom tank. (Maybe 6ft long, 3.5ft wide at it's widest - weird shape.) It was shallow and wide so at 3 ft she had plenty room to turn around.

In my opinion, the tank was still not enough room. She lived a "long" time by some standards. She was cool, of course. I believe she recognized certain people, possibly by their feed techniques. She developed issues when not fed a proper diet. When she did start to go downhill, she couldn't tell us what wrong and there was nothing we could do to help. I cried when she died. In retrospect we saw that something was odd about her behavior, but we wouldn't have been able to help her.

Some fish in a tank are just fish. A shark is a pet. We feel that way about some of our fish, but not all of them. Some exhibit more personality, some remember you. Our shark was around for almost a decade. I'm sure she could have been happier, and that's on us to provide that.

If you aren't prepared for a huge commitment from Day 1, don't bother.

Don't plan to upgrade later, they grow fast.
Don't think you'll stick to a feed regimen if you've never had a high maintenance pet before.
Don't assume you'll enjoy it enough to be worth it - they're a lot of work for very little reward.
Don't get one if you don't have enough experience to know already that your tank is too small.
 
The trigger in a 75? No, it wouldn't, IMO. Like I stated before, stock your current tank, for the fishes lifespan, and not for the tank that you hope to have.

Can't reiterate this enough. Plan your fish for the tank you are putting together.
 
A 75 would be a good start. However many of the fish you want to keep need very large tanks. Start with fish that wont ever require a large tank. After you are confident in your ability to keep smaller fish, and you have the means to set up a larger tank, then plan your build and stock list accordingly. And I will say it again, pick up some good books on the hobby, they will surely help you.
 
BT Triggers are small triggers. Most docile and suited for a reef as well. What happened to the 125/150 tank? BT triggers can go in a 125.
 
OK you must be like 16 or younger based on what your posting. You need to research before going down the line asking about every fish you like. First off if your trying to have reef tank your gonna need a sump and a ton of flow and a lot of reading. You can't keep most the fish you want in a reef and based on questions you are not ready for a task like that. I suggest you read more plan more before you try somthinh like this.



Why do you have 2 user names? You better not be trolling wasting all these peoples time. A lot of people answering your questions are experience reefer trying to be helpful.
 
^I know a couple 16 year olds perfectly capable of setting up a reef tank, careful with the broad brush. I would point at maturity level and willingness to listen, rather than age.
 
Be careful going with a HOB skimmer. They may state they're good for a certain tank size. But you ALWAYS want to oversize a skimmer, especially if you plan for a heavier bio load. My example: I had a 65G tank (originally a 40G tank) and was running an Octopus NW150 skimmer, rated for "up to 150 gallons". If you keep your bio load light, you can probably get away with the HOB skimmer on your 50G. But I'd start thinking in-sump skimmer for anything larger.

fishmanstan, how much reading have you done on setting up saltwater tanks? I'd recommend getting a couple books and learning what all goes into marine tanks, before you dive into the hobby. You may have experience with freshwater tanks, but that won't help you much in this hobby. Water chemistry, husbandry techniques, etc. are all significantly different than freshwater. Especially if you get into reef tanks.

Try reading the New Marine Aquarium. It's and excellent place to start learning about marine tanks, how they work, and getting started planning a tank. Plan for months of planning and setup time. Do not rush things. Rushing a setup will only end badly for all involved. Read up on what fish would be appropriate for your tank size. (As has been stated, LiveAquaria is a good resource. But even getting books like the Pocket Guide books for marine fishes would be a good place to start. Learn about these fish, their behavior, sensitivity to water quality, hardiness, agressiveness, food requirements, and compatibility with other fish that you're interested in. If you do all of this and you're still not sure about something, just ask. We're happy to help.

The reason some posters seem somewhat annoyed is because it appears you're not doing any research before just asking if a fish will work. And if a poster says that they don't recommend a particular fish, you still ask repeatedly if it will work in your tank. The answers won't change. Put it this way: you always want to pick a fish that NEEDS a smaller tank than what you have. (In other words, if it says it requires 30 gallons, put it in a larger tank.) It's more comfy for the fish to have room to swim around and be happy, and allows you to put more in your tank. If it were up to me, I'd want a whole bunch of small fish swimming around, rather than just a few larger fish. It's much more interesting, in my opinion, to see all of that activity.
 
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