should I cut this fish's fin?

[Zacktosterone]

This foxfaces fin is Brocken. And it looks like the more it grows the more it splits. Should I slowly knock out the fish and cut its fin to whear the flesh is joined and not stressed so it can grow back properly? I know how to cut the fin perfectly but I need to know how to knock the fish out for 15 seconds

 

[DgenR8]

I have never attempted such a thing, on a venomous fish, no less. I don't have an answer for you, but I think you're more likely to get one here, than the Chemistry forum.
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Good luck

 

[Zacktosterone]

I have never attempted such a thing, on a venomous fish, no less. I don't have an answer for you, but I think you're more likely to get one here, than the Chemistry forum.
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Good luck

Oh thanks a lot lol I thought I posted in general reef discussion. I know its going to be super dangerous without the proper equipment. As time goes on his fin gets worse

 

[Dmorty217]

MS-222 (finquel or tricaine methanesulfonate) or clove oil. Depending on the size and species of fish 50-100mg/L of MS-222. If you use clove oil 25-50mg/L

 

[billsreef]

Picture?

 

[Zacktosterone]

Picture?

I think I spent 30 minutes trying to snap a shot of him. Its not possible with the camera I have. All I know is over the past 6 months his fin keeps splitting and getting worse

 

[Zacktosterone]

MS-222 (finquel or tricaine methanesulfonate) or clove oil. Depending on the size and species of fish 50-100mg/L of MS-222. If you use clove oil 25-50mg/L

How much time would I have if he knocks out

 

[Rea17]

Doesn't seem like a good idea, and there is probably an underlying problem that may need to be addressed. I second the request for a picture.. If you are removing him to attempt surgery maybe you can post a pic out of the water beforehand.

 

[Zacktosterone]

Doesn't seem like a good idea, and there is probably an underlying problem that may need to be addressed. I second the request for a picture.. If you are removing him to attempt surgery maybe you can post a pic out of the water beforehand.

I will be doing this

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zq6m0jnuzQY

This fin will not heal. I purchased him like this a year ago. I've been watching it get worse for the last 6 months. As it grows it splits further and the upper portion of the pectoral fin curls more and more as if its bending

 

[billsreef]

Doesn't seem like a good idea, and there is probably an underlying problem that may need to be addressed.

That's the big question. Under most cases, a split fin will heal on it's own without some underlying problem.

As for how long under sedation, a few minutes with ease. The trick is to sedate the fish to the point that it doesn't respond to stimuli, but still is breathing. Once you hit that point, you remove the fish from the anesthetic solution and you should have few minutes to work before it begins to recover. Length of time can vary from species to species, as does the dosage required.

 

[Zacktosterone]

That's the big question. Under most cases, a split fin will heal on it's own without some underlying problem.

As for how long under sedation, a few minutes with ease. The trick is to sedate the fish to the point that it doesn't respond to stimuli, but still is breathing. Once you hit that point, you remove the fish from the anesthetic solution and you should have few minutes to work before it begins to recover. Length of time can vary from species to species, as does the dosage required.

What do you think some underlying problems are bill?

 

[billsreef]

FYI, you do not want to cut into the hard fin rays. Those do not grow back.

 

[billsreef]

What do you think some underlying problems are bill?

Most commonly, abuse from aggressive fish...sometimes just simply being intimidating and bolting in too small holes causal damage from banging into rocks. After that, disease and water quality issues can be at fault.

 

[Zacktosterone]

Most commonly, abuse from aggressive fish...sometimes just simply being intimidating and bolting in too small holes causal damage from banging into rocks. After that, disease and water quality issues can be at fault.

The rock work is very open and there's no "noticeable" aggression in my tank. As for the fin rays. Are you talking about the bone? I was going to cut the entire fin off for it grow back again like shown in the example i provided by video. Maybe the aggression was in the previous tank

 

[billsreef]

The pectoral fin of many fish have the first spine or couple of spines as hard spines. Those don't grow back. The soft fin rays will, if not cut too far back.

 

[Zacktosterone]

The pectoral fin of many fish have the first spine or couple of spines as hard spines. Those don't grow back. The soft fin rays will, if not cut too far back.

Hmm. Do you have a diagram so I can understand you better?

 

[billsreef]

 

[Zacktosterone]

What do i do to the foxface sonit can finally heal? If I can't cut any of its bones

 

[Dmorty217]

What do i do to the foxface sonit can finally heal? If I can't cut any of its bones

I would suggest QTing and treating with a antibiotic to help with healing before cutting anything.

 

[billsreef]

I would suggest QTing and treating with a antibiotic to help with healing before cutting anything.

That's what I'd be trying first. Even if doing surgery, I'd recommending that for recovery.