zemuron114
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C. flavorcornatus is supposedly found in christmas island but very very deep. I think the only ones to come out so far were from Guam on a very rare occasion.
SHOW OFF YOUR RARE amd HYBRIDS!!!
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LukFox
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Don't you already have a snowflake, dwarf, and miliaris? I think you're running out of comfortable "eel room". Eels tend to grow pretty fast anyway (ime at least), and even a small dragon will get big quite soon. If you're going to drop that kind of money on a fish, I would think you'd want to keep it for more than a year. And with those teeth it is capable of slashing fish apart into pieces it can eat, even if it looked like it wouldn't be able to when the fish was whole. I really advise against a dragon with what you already have.
Kahuna Tuna
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Those emp hybrids are awesome. The first looks like an emp/bluering-annularis and the second looks like an emp/koran. The who knows is a miscolored regal, that pic is in the Scott Michael angel book.
copps
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12745951#post12745951 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by myerst2
Emperor hybrid
This fish was believed to be an emperor/koran hybrid...
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12747785#post12747785 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
Just an awesome fish! Definitely a dream fish of mine....
For those who don't know, this was a shot I took of the one Centropyge nahackyi on display in the world... at the Waikiki Aquarium. Charles Delbeek also pointed out that the same can be said for the Apogon species cardinal in the background...
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12747795#post12747795 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
It's probably been covered in the regal angel thread, but any ideas what this is? Hybrid seems unlikely seeing as it's its own genus.
For a little more insight on this fish, it was collected and photographed by Jack Randall over 30 years ago in the country of Djibouti, Africa, just outside of the Red Sea in the Gulf of Aden. I spoke to Jack himself about this specimen... it's just one of the many (although perhaps the MOST striking) chromatic abnormalities of Pygoplites collected. Ironically, this past Friday I handed in my rental car at the Seattle airport to a very nice Hertz employee who was from Djibouti... she was surprised I knew about her country... directly a result of my research on this one fish!
The one specimen that we always see photos of was documented in Japan for years... and even sold back to the retail shop it was purchased from... and it held its color.
In regards to flavocoronatus, I hope to see one in January... I travel to the Marianas Islands in Micronesia yearly and recently met up with the one rebreather diver in Guam at a conference. He told me there is a spot where he sees them in just 70 feet! I'm also going to do some collecting while there this time, along with a short trip to the island of Saipan in my off time. As many of you know there is a soup of hybrids throughout Micronesia of this subgenus and flavocoronatus is represented in them, but the species is only scientifically documented from the Marianas.
I've got many rarities, but one of my more recent ones is one of those very striking Pomacanthus hybrids coming out of Kenya... my guy is a koran/chrysurus hybrid... perhaps not as striking as the emperor hybrid but to me I like him... the koran was the first angel I ever owned as a kid almost 20 years ago, and I've owned a pair of chrysurus for years now since they became semi common as exports stepped up out of Kenya... I'll get better shots of him... but here is one...
Copps
copps
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By the way John (sedgro), very cool as always! Who would have thought there would be a day when West African fish would be easier to get than West Australian fish! I expected to see you at IMAC... what happened?
The ones in the photo are Prognathodes aya, the Eastern Atlantic cousin of the African P. marcellae from a shop in Osaka Japan that has good "Atlantic connections".
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12752615#post12752615 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by myerst2
Sedro, That is quite an impressive fish. Where did you get that one from? LA's price for that Marcelae,also one of favorites and super hardy, is very reasonable. Especially because of their quality. I always for get what type of butterfly is this?
The ones in the photo are Prognathodes aya, the Eastern Atlantic cousin of the African P. marcellae from a shop in Osaka Japan that has good "Atlantic connections".
triggerfish1976
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Welcome back John. I thought you fell of the face of the earth.
It's weird because I was just talking to a HI diver friend of mine and he mentioned your name.
Back on thread. I just picked this guy up today.
I have him in a critter cage to make sure the Achilles Tang doesn't give him crap. Obviously the Achilles is going bye bye if he does.
Here is a pic of the fish acclimating with some other rarities.
Thats four Chrysogaster Clowns, a real small Blonde Naso from Africa, (2) pairs of small African Leopard wrasses, a cool pencil or arrow wrasse and some other goodies.
It's weird because I was just talking to a HI diver friend of mine and he mentioned your name.
Back on thread. I just picked this guy up today.
I have him in a critter cage to make sure the Achilles Tang doesn't give him crap. Obviously the Achilles is going bye bye if he does.
Here is a pic of the fish acclimating with some other rarities.
Thats four Chrysogaster Clowns, a real small Blonde Naso from Africa, (2) pairs of small African Leopard wrasses, a cool pencil or arrow wrasse and some other goodies.
copps
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It's funny Tim... traveling doing my talks I get two very common questions... from novice reefkeepers it's "can I keep angels in reefs?"... and from hardcore guys it's "When is Frank firing up again?"
I spoke to Frank two weeks ago and still no concrete plans yet... even he doesn't know... to see what he's been up to check out his personal underwater photography website at www.bluereefphoto.net. I'm slowly delving into the expensive world of underwater Digital SLR photography and he has been a great source of info... Of note to us rare enthusiasts are his recent trips to Lord Howe and Socorro... On this his second trip to Lord Howe he was able to dive Ball's Pyramid and photograph Chaetodontoplus ballinae among many other cool things... the ballina angel was an angel I read about growing up based on two specimens, which was later rediscovered in 1994 at this small 500 foot rock jutting out of the water... it remains the only place they've been seen live and to this day a juvenile has not been photographed... in Socorro of course he saw plenty clarion angels... but what I thought cool was that he saw two passer angels there. Passer angels there are rarer than mainland Mexico clarion angels... He's finally doing all the travel he couldn't do when he was feeding fry every five hours... Also of note is his PhD... his first paper on Centropyge debelius has been accepted and is now public, to be published in one of the major aquaculture journals soon... Last October Frank and I spent a few days together diving and doing other things, including a day at the Bishop Museum with Rich Pyle, Jack Randall, and John Earle. Many know the first two names well, but for those of you who don't know John Earle, he is a retired Hawaiian Airlines pilot that has countless hours diving through the years and has discovered many new fish... his contributions to ichthyology rival many professionally trained ichthyologists, including the four figure Cirrhilabrus earlei named after him shown on the previous page... and he has the most ridiculous apartment overlooking all of Waikiki!
I spoke to Frank two weeks ago and still no concrete plans yet... even he doesn't know... to see what he's been up to check out his personal underwater photography website at www.bluereefphoto.net. I'm slowly delving into the expensive world of underwater Digital SLR photography and he has been a great source of info... Of note to us rare enthusiasts are his recent trips to Lord Howe and Socorro... On this his second trip to Lord Howe he was able to dive Ball's Pyramid and photograph Chaetodontoplus ballinae among many other cool things... the ballina angel was an angel I read about growing up based on two specimens, which was later rediscovered in 1994 at this small 500 foot rock jutting out of the water... it remains the only place they've been seen live and to this day a juvenile has not been photographed... in Socorro of course he saw plenty clarion angels... but what I thought cool was that he saw two passer angels there. Passer angels there are rarer than mainland Mexico clarion angels... He's finally doing all the travel he couldn't do when he was feeding fry every five hours... Also of note is his PhD... his first paper on Centropyge debelius has been accepted and is now public, to be published in one of the major aquaculture journals soon... Last October Frank and I spent a few days together diving and doing other things, including a day at the Bishop Museum with Rich Pyle, Jack Randall, and John Earle. Many know the first two names well, but for those of you who don't know John Earle, he is a retired Hawaiian Airlines pilot that has countless hours diving through the years and has discovered many new fish... his contributions to ichthyology rival many professionally trained ichthyologists, including the four figure Cirrhilabrus earlei named after him shown on the previous page... and he has the most ridiculous apartment overlooking all of Waikiki!
copps
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Taking this in context with some of your other posts I have an idea of who it is...
I'll shoot you a PM. I haven't had that much time to post recently, but always enjoy when I could pop in... the wife and I have our second baby coming in August, so it will probably get worse! I'm just excited and am counting the days until my two and a half year old could get certified so that I could have a dive buddy in the family! Sweet fish by the way! Conspic shots will never get old!
myerst2
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Hey Copps again cool stuff. Yes Balinae is one of those fish you dream about when you first lay eyes on it. Is it illegal to collect them there? Simple colors, but amazing none the less. That is cool about the passers inhabiting that area. Wonder if they are transients or reside there. If they do live there I would love to see a Clarion/Passer Hybrid. Talk about a bad *** fish. bit looks wise and attitude.
HeY trigger congrats on your Conspic. I think the two of us have been wanting to get a Conspic more than anyone else I know. I wish you all the luck and success. You may have a problem with the achilles because of the colors being mostly black on both fish. Do you have any concern about him eating your corals? Keep us updated? How big is he?
I think I found my Dragon Moray. In fact I found a Japanese Dragon. We will see if things work out. Some of the fish in this one display will be moved this weekend to make room for him if all things pan out. I was contemplating keeping my Millaris with the Dragon. Bad idea? What do you think? Regards, Tim
HeY trigger congrats on your Conspic. I think the two of us have been wanting to get a Conspic more than anyone else I know. I wish you all the luck and success. You may have a problem with the achilles because of the colors being mostly black on both fish. Do you have any concern about him eating your corals? Keep us updated? How big is he?
I think I found my Dragon Moray. In fact I found a Japanese Dragon. We will see if things work out. Some of the fish in this one display will be moved this weekend to make room for him if all things pan out. I was contemplating keeping my Millaris with the Dragon. Bad idea? What do you think? Regards, Tim
triggerfish1976
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I have had conspics. before and didn't have any problems with corals and the Achilles could care less about the angel so far.
glassbox-design
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Very exciting. If you capture any photos be sure to share
