I agree with this also.
SPS Targeted Feeding Macro Video Experiment
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I agree with this also.
Patrick Cox
Active member
Does Oyster Feast fall into this category? Thx
An easy way is to get frags and rock rubble from other reefers. Adding good live rock also helps. Mechanical filtration may limit the quantity of creatures in the tank. If you have been adding frags all along you may already have a good diversity. I started with mostly dry rock too.
trueblackpercula
New member
add live sand, quality live rock and you can add biodigest and microbaxter 7
Syntax1325
Acro Addict
After reading through this thread I went out and made my own Pappone and fed my tank yesterday for the first time. I fed broadcast style only about 8ml in a 125, there were particles all over the tank and my shrimp we're going nuts! However, I did not seem to get any reaction from the corals? I fed during the day as usual. Anyone else have a similar experience?
trueblackpercula
New member
Can I ask what you added to make pappone? Also did you shut off all the pumps and shut off the power heads ? The water should be still and cloudy so the Sps can catch what you added to the water column.
Let us know
Syntax1325
Acro Addict
I made the Pappone out of 5 of the following: Mussels, clams, oysters, shrimp and a single tiny block of cyclopeeze. I added water and food processed for about 8 minutes intermittently. I purposely did not add sugar but forgot to add the veggie material. I turned off my powerbeads but kept my return pump on. Granted that the recipe is not the same, it is still food, and still should elicit some kind of response.
Should a powerhead stay on to distribute the Pappone through out the tank? I kept my return pump on because I wanted to help feed the micro fauna in my sump... also to feed my bicolor blenny that is serving time for nipping sps.
Should a powerhead stay on to distribute the Pappone through out the tank? I kept my return pump on because I wanted to help feed the micro fauna in my sump... also to feed my bicolor blenny that is serving time for nipping sps.
trueblackpercula
New member
the new stuff LOl
Aww7979
Member
Hello everyone. Thought I'd add my two cents. I think the biggest benefit we get is by "feeding the tank". Sprung has thought that older tanks have historically done better with SPS because of things like those sponges that start growing everywhere. They expell their stomach linings in an attempt to get rid of bacteria or indigestible particals. He thinks that the sponges constantly feed the water column this way.
I think that target feeding the SPS is beneficial but there is no way, they are consuming all we are giving them. The thought that the "life in the tank" needs to be in place before we start the heavy feeding, might be the most critical part to this experiment. When I first started in the hobby, I insited on having Sun Corals. I nearly quit the hobby because of Cyano and GHA. Needless to say, I stoped feeding the sun corals and they faded, leaving me with an algae problem.
Two years later I again have a Sun coral. I feed it like a pig and my tank, and specifically my SPS are growing like weeds. My six line wrasse can't swim because he eats pods day and night and is now the shape of a small sausage.
I love this hobby because of all of your testing and comparing with each other. I now understand the term Husbandry.
I think that target feeding the SPS is beneficial but there is no way, they are consuming all we are giving them. The thought that the "life in the tank" needs to be in place before we start the heavy feeding, might be the most critical part to this experiment. When I first started in the hobby, I insited on having Sun Corals. I nearly quit the hobby because of Cyano and GHA. Needless to say, I stoped feeding the sun corals and they faded, leaving me with an algae problem.
Two years later I again have a Sun coral. I feed it like a pig and my tank, and specifically my SPS are growing like weeds. My six line wrasse can't swim because he eats pods day and night and is now the shape of a small sausage.
I love this hobby because of all of your testing and comparing with each other. I now understand the term Husbandry.
codydemmel4
Active member
I am going to try this out sometime this weekend, is it still going great for everyone?
trueblackpercula
New member
Anyone have any updates ?I am getting some great color and growth.
JB NY
Active member
Interested to know as well. I just finished reading this whole thread yesterday, so funny you bumped it today.
I ran into the owner of Polyp Lab at reef-a-palooza over the weekend and talked to him about reef roids etc, I left with a container of it and their polyp power. So I will start trying it and see how it goes.
I ran into the owner of Polyp Lab at reef-a-palooza over the weekend and talked to him about reef roids etc, I left with a container of it and their polyp power. So I will start trying it and see how it goes.
trueblackpercula
New member
Well it worked well for me until my entire collection got destroyed by aefw. I am so sad that I won't even post pictures. I even thought about getting out of the hobby after 20 years. But I decided to wait 6 months and if all is well I will start collecting again. Want to make sure I don't have any aefw. Sorry guys it's taken a lot out of me so I am taking it slow next time around.
trueblackpercula
New member
Yes no matter how careful I was they some how managed to get into the tank. Only advice I could give is dip everything in Bayer and if buying mariculture pieces like me REMOVE the base.
See every soon
Mr. Big thanks and your tank is amazing.
See every soon
Mr. Big thanks and your tank is amazing.
sahin
Ultimate Reefer
Haha, I just went through the thread yesterday too...hence the bump. :lolspin:
My reason for going looking into pappone is due to a wish to supply a wide spectrum of quality foods and feed the fish (and corals to a certain extent).
Mike Palletta uses this and in one of the AmericanReef videos Mike says that corals can brown out due to lack of food as well...Many of my corals are decently coloured, but a few are still brown...I thought I might try this food recipe.
As far as Reef Roids and Polpy Power goes...I've tried Reef Roids and didnt notice much. I think Andrew (Biggles/Darth Acro...or whatever else he calls himself these days) tried both and I dont think Andrew found them to be of much use at all.
Why are you looking into this foods Joe? - I ask because your coral colours are very very nice and other than to get a decent/cheaper bunch of food, I'd continue if it were me, to treat the tank exactly the same way.
Sorry man. AEFW's are an SPS keepers worst nightmare.
Can you elaborate on "it worked well" for you? - Thanks.
+1I'm really sorry to hear that news Michael.Really pleased you're hanging in there mate.
Dipping isnt enough. One needs to remove bases and QT for at least 3-6 weeks whilst dipping and inspecting.
JB NY
Active member
I have never felt that feeding has anything to do with coloration. I have always felt that feeding, if you can do it properly, can lead to healthier SPS, meaning resistant to diseases, STN, RTN etc, as well as some better growth. So a while back I was talking to some of the authors of that paper on feeding leading to better growth and they absolutely felt that reef roids, while over priced, worked well to get better growth from corals. So it was in the back of my mind. Then last week I got an opportunity to talk to the owner of reef roids, I've know him for about 10 years and feel he is a pretty honest guy, and in talking with him I thought I would take another look at the product and try it out. So here we are.
In trying it I am looking to see if I can get better growth or healthy corals. Coloration is not what I expect or am looking for with the feeding. In the past I have tried different foods to feed and always felt that using AA was pretty much the same as heavy feeding, at least that was my experience.
Feeding I think is very hard to do long term as it requires a pretty big commitment in time. I don't know if I would do it always, but I do like to play around with stuff and see how it changes things.
sahin
Ultimate Reefer
There is journal paper I saved on my laptop that shows Reef Roids was one of only a few products that helped with coral growth. Unfortunately my laptop is damaged.
So the owner isn't making stuff up.
My tank is small and so my main aim is coral colour. :spin2:
