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[Stylo328]

Stylo328's 187 (60x30x24) Build Thread

Man I am sorry you went through that. I am glad you caught that situation now instead of down the road. I hope everything recovers. I thought the bayer dip had more of a concentration. Did you place a small powerhead in the bucket with the frags and let the procedure last 10 minutes?

Thanks for the sentiment, truly appreciate it. It is a shame that none of the dips kill the eggs. That's how they must have gotten in.

As far as the dip, I didn't use a power head, bug manually agitated the water. Kept them in for 15 minutes.

 

[Newbie Aquarist]

Thanks for the sentiment. As far as the dip, I didn't use a power head, bug manually agitated the water. Kept them in for 15 minutes.

Ok cool. I've heard of some using a small power head fir the same reason and aid in moving red bugs and aefw too.

 

[Stylo328]

That's a really good idea. I use the powerhead when I use coral revive or coral RX for the LPS, not sure why it didn't occur to us to use one for the Bayer. We'll use a little powerhead in there when we do the next dips to help make sure everything is coming off the acros.

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[bmanzie]

I like the frag rack

 

[dgasmd]

Having gone through this very painful saga longer than I can remember, I do have a few suggestions. Having said that, I must confess that these acro eating flatworms is almost the single reason that would keep me from having across if I set up a tank again.

1. Don't use a powerhead while dipping. They are too strong for the flesh of the acro, especially in the weakened state. Get a turkey baster and use that instead. Works very very well to dislodge the flatworms, but it does not do much of anything for the egg clusters.

2. Use a toothbrush on the egg clusters. Very gently if it is used on the acro tissue itself.

3. I know I said this 3-5 times while I was there, but I will say it again. Get 3-5 juvenile yellow core wrasses. They are the only fish I know of that not only will eat the flatworms, but will pick them right off the branches of the across when I could not even see them or free them up with a turkey baster.

4. Use the turkey baster 3-4/day while frags are in the tank in addition to when they are getting dipped. The yellow coris will pick them right off the water and eat them.

5. Increase your light cycle a bit. This is completely anecdotal.

In the end, all of these measures didn't rid my tank of them, but maybe you have better luck.

 

[Stylo328]

Stylo328's 187 (60x30x24) Build Thread

I like the frag rack

Thanks.

 

[Stylo328]

Stylo328's 187 (60x30x24) Build Thread

Having gone through this very painful saga longer than I can remember, I do have a few suggestions. Having said that, I must confess that these acro eating flatworms is almost the single reason that would keep me from having across if I set up a tank again.

1. Don't use a powerhead while dipping. They are too strong for the flesh of the acro, especially in the weakened state. Get a turkey baster and use that instead. Works very very well to dislodge the flatworms, but it does not do much of anything for the egg clusters.

2. Use a toothbrush on the egg clusters. Very gently if it is used on the acro tissue itself.

3. I know I said this 3-5 times while I was there, but I will say it again. Get 3-5 juvenile yellow core wrasses. They are the only fish I know of that not only will eat the flatworms, but will pick them right off the branches of the across when I could not even see them or free them up with a turkey baster.

4. Use the turkey baster 3-4/day while frags are in the tank in addition to when they are getting dipped. The yellow coris will pick them right off the water and eat them.

5. Increase your light cycle a bit. This is completely anecdotal.

In the end, all of these measures didn't rid my tank of them, but maybe you have better luck.

Thanks for the advice. I planning buying a couple of coris wrasses as soon as the "fish-less" portion of the tank QT is over. It's been 23 days since we pulled the fish into QT. Planning in going 30 days before re-introducing.

Dipped one of the frags today and didn't see anything in the water. Will dip all 42 again on Saturday. If we got all of the eggs (doubt it) we should be able to break the cycle. Nevertheless, will dip every week for eight weeks.

Thanks again for the advice.

 

[Newbie Aquarist]

Now that's dedication. Wish you the best and hopefully beat those things.

 

[SantaMonica]

Making progress.

Get 3-5 juvenile yellow core wrasses

I assume this is "coris"

 

[Stylo328]

Stylo328's 187 (60x30x24) Build Thread

Now that's dedication. Wish you the best and hopefully beat those things.

Thanks Bud. I have every intention of winning the war. All of the frags seem to be doing well, with polyp extension and only a slight loss of color.

 

[Stylo328]

Stylo328's 187 (60x30x24) Build Thread

Making progress.



I assume this is "coris"

Thanks. Yes, he meant coris wrasse. He's obviously a big fan

 

[Stylo328]

Just completed dip number two of the eight week cycle for the AEFW. It was hard to tell how many flatworms came off the Corals as the slime in the dip container had congealed anything laying in the bottom. No egg clusters were found upon close inspection of each frag.

Also added back all remaining fish other than the mimic tang, who has an open sore just behind the eye. All of the fish look pretty good, except for the line-spot flasher, who looks a little thin.

 

[Newbie Aquarist]

Thats good news. I commend your patience and dedication.

 

[dgasmd]

I assume this is "coris"

Wow! I see we have a Participation Award Winner from 2nd grade spelling bee turning into a Internet Spelling Nazi sensation!! Auto spell on phone. Yes, it was Coris, as you could have told easily if you read my entire post!!

 

[Stylo328]

Weekly AEFW update...

Dip number three was the smoothest of all from an operational perspective. Setup, dip, egg check and back in the tank within 30-minutes.

No egg clusters were found on any corals, nor could any flat worms be identified in the remnants of the dip container.

Most acros seem fine. There is some color loss on the ORA frog skin and a definite degradation of the candlestick granulosa, which I might ultimately loose.

I am really tempted to quit the dipping process and "assume I am AEFW FREE". Need some encouragement to see this through.

On another note, all remaining fish have now been added back into the display tank.

 

[Stylo328]

AEFW update #4

Had another successful dip today. Again no AEFW or eggs were identified. I lost the valida tri-color. There was about 50% tissue recession and I decided it was better to just discard the frag. All other corals look great with the exception of the candlestick granulosa.

All fish are doing well, except for Achilles #3, which was picked up from a local reefer on Tuesday (covered in ich which I could not see in the bucket) and he was dead by Thursday morning. No response to my text to the local who sold him to me... Very disheartening.

 

[Stylo328]

Stylo328's 187 (60x30x24) Build Thread

AEFW update #5

Dipped the corals today. Found what may have been a couple of eggs on the glow stick sarmentosa and on a small frag of chip's acro. Neither frag looked good or viable, so to the trash they went. Otherwise the remaining frags look great with good color and good polyp extension.

Added a male lubbock's fairy wrasse, a male naoko's fairy wrasse, and a tiny juvenile clown tang this week. The wrasses are eating well and have been readily accepted by the existing fish. The tang is pacing a bit and skittish without being harassed by the mimic tang. I know they are hard to transition to captive environments, but he was fat and healthy in the store... Fingers crossed.

 

[bmanzie]

Good luck with your new additions.

 

[Newbie Aquarist]

AEFW update #4

Had another successful dip today. Again no AEFW or eggs were identified. I lost the valida tri-color. There was about 50% tissue recession and I decided it was better to just discard the frag. All other corals look great with the exception of the candlestick granulosa.

All fish are doing well, except for Achilles #3, which was picked up from a local reefer on Tuesday (covered in ich which I could not see in the bucket) and he was dead by Thursday morning. No response to my text to the local who sold him to me... Very disheartening.

Ironically I lost Achilles number 3 also recently. The person I got it from had it in his tank that he treated with copper. I also had an orange shoulder in the same system. Ironically it came down in ich and died after 3 weeks. Lost the orange shoulder also. Both were eating well and just up and dead.

Glad you won the AEFW battle.

 

[dgasmd]

Any updates?