The angel thread to end all angel threads: all owners of angelfish in reefs respond!!
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Toddrtrex
Premium Member
Well, I picked up a new dwarf angel this weekend -- a multicolored. Within seconds of being in the tank it nipped at my green digi, but since then it hasn't touched it. It has been about 48 hours now and I haven't seen it nipping at anything, including the digi -- which has full polyp extension.
With my Potter.
With my Potter.
I'll play ball.
Two flame angels in two different tanks. Both nipped at sps causing lack of polyp extension. One angel may have been the culprit of a few more invasive sps problems but was difficult to tell. Didn't touch any lps, zoanthids, anemones, and so on.
Two flame angels in two different tanks. Both nipped at sps causing lack of polyp extension. One angel may have been the culprit of a few more invasive sps problems but was difficult to tell. Didn't touch any lps, zoanthids, anemones, and so on.
jjk_reef00
New member
+1
Queen Angel definitely eats coral, only polyps so far.
Has anyone had luck keeping angels off of their coral by placing them high in the tank?
I have an interesting observation:
I knew from day 1 the angel would eat my polyps, zoas, etc...
I was hoping to keep an all SPS tank.
The angel is 11" long and has been in my tank for about 4 months now. Was fine the first two months, then I noticed him picking on some polyps near the bottom of the tank by/inside a cave, no real damage but just 1 polyp here and there. One afternoon I turn my head to my tank and he is going to town on that same 4" x 4" rock full of big polyps. He was eating them like no other. It was quite amazing to watch, and the fish seemed so incredibly happy eating the coral. I just laughed because I was hopping he would eat those because they grow like weeds.
That 4"x4" rock was cleared except for a few very small ones that were hard for him to reach. I have another very large rock higher in my tank(about 1/2 way up) and my angel hasn't touched them. I was hoping he would because they are growing into my sps and I have to pull them out once a week.
For the past month he will occasionally return to the near bear 4"x4" rock to pick at any new polyps that are growing but will not touch the ones higher in the tank. Both rocks have the same exact polyps, color and everything. The ones higher in the tank have more flow going over them so it is harder for him to just sit there and eat them but the flow isn't that high. IMO he would have no problem eating all of them if he wanted to.
What is the deal, why won't he eat them? :hammer:
jjk_reef00
New member
Can I borrow him for a week? :fun4:
Slayer311sGirl
New member
Flame Angel
2 years
Never touched any corals in my mixed reef
2 years
Never touched any corals in my mixed reef
Slayer311sGirl
New member
Coral beauty Angel x2
2 years
Mixed reef, can tell when it wants more nori as it will nip the base of my duncan cause it looks like nori I guess
2 years
Mixed reef, can tell when it wants more nori as it will nip the base of my duncan cause it looks like nori I guess
clippo
Member
Here's my observations...
I had a flame angel in a 30 UK gallon for approximately 3 years. For the first year it was fine. From then on, it would nip at fleshy LPS and clams particularly those introduced after it. This nipping was quite innocuous but slowly led to the inverts losing condition over an extended period.
When I upgraded the tank I traded the flame. In the new tank I added a juvenile bicolour angel to try to deal with a small amount of hair algae. This fish was well behaved for a month or two but then I noticed the same problem with my LPS particularly so I caught it and traded it.
Not to try to knock this thread, but I think it is already pretty well established which species are less likely to cause damage (those being from the 'argi complex' - see Scott Michaels Angelfish & Butterflyfishes reeffishes book).
The observations here are interesting but there are too many variables to establish any information that is more useful than that already available IMHO. Most people aren't even saying how long they have had the fish.
Some other factors you need to consider are:
- tank size
- species of corals involved (exact species name as confusion can arise with common names)
- amount of algae/sponges in tank (long term observation)
- temperature of water (increases metabolism obviously but virtually impossible to verify accuracy of stated temp)
- amount/type of food given
- food competition
- nutritive value of food given
- amount of flow (affects energy requirement of fish)
- age of fish
- location of collection
etc etc etc!
Apologies if this has been mentioned already.... I skipped some posts.
I had a flame angel in a 30 UK gallon for approximately 3 years. For the first year it was fine. From then on, it would nip at fleshy LPS and clams particularly those introduced after it. This nipping was quite innocuous but slowly led to the inverts losing condition over an extended period.
When I upgraded the tank I traded the flame. In the new tank I added a juvenile bicolour angel to try to deal with a small amount of hair algae. This fish was well behaved for a month or two but then I noticed the same problem with my LPS particularly so I caught it and traded it.
Not to try to knock this thread, but I think it is already pretty well established which species are less likely to cause damage (those being from the 'argi complex' - see Scott Michaels Angelfish & Butterflyfishes reeffishes book).
The observations here are interesting but there are too many variables to establish any information that is more useful than that already available IMHO. Most people aren't even saying how long they have had the fish.
Some other factors you need to consider are:
- tank size
- species of corals involved (exact species name as confusion can arise with common names)
- amount of algae/sponges in tank (long term observation)
- temperature of water (increases metabolism obviously but virtually impossible to verify accuracy of stated temp)
- amount/type of food given
- food competition
- nutritive value of food given
- amount of flow (affects energy requirement of fish)
- age of fish
- location of collection
etc etc etc!
Apologies if this has been mentioned already.... I skipped some posts.
Aquarist007
New member
I'd be interested in an answer to this one too
I have a cream angel who doesn't eat any coral except if I place it on the bottom of the tank on the substrate. Doesn't matter what the coral--leaves it all alone unless it is placed on the bottom of the tank
extremeshocks
New member
imperator angel
REEF SAFE
never nips at anything he is very well feed with purple and nori seaweed, eats clams picks at rocks, mysis brine emerald entree mini mysis krill , and loves rods food.
REEF SAFE
never nips at anything he is very well feed with purple and nori seaweed, eats clams picks at rocks, mysis brine emerald entree mini mysis krill , and loves rods food.
BeloitReef
New member
Flame angel and he ate any type of food I put in the tank including pellets, flake and frozen. Left all LPS, zoa's and mushrooms alone but I feed my fish on timers twice a day and manually once at night. He was a bully though to anything that was the same size or smaller and timid.
BeloitReef
BeloitReef
bumpbailey
New member
Potter's Angel and a Pygmy Cherub Angel in a 180GA. I have never seen either of them nip at my corals. Both SPS and LPS. Would like to get a clam but I think that would probably cross a line.
Lots of zoas and paly's, hammer, duncans haven't been touchedSimilar threads
