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[Ink]

Metal quickly binds to organic compounds.
Chelants have the role to slowly release metals in the free form which is useable to most living organism. Once metals are free, they quickly binds to organic compounds or precipitate together with calcium and becoming unsoluble.
Adding metals without chelants could be dangerous because add an immediate large amount of metal ions which act at full power. Chelants release the free form more slowly. By the wa, it is important to not add excessive doses, because a large dose of chelated product will however lead to a higher release of free ions, that could harm living organism.
Water rich in organic compounds lead to faster metals depletion. Activated carbon use indirectly removes metals because removes organic compounds. That's why to get most of zeospur2 effect it is advised to filter water with GAC, then remove it and add zeospur2 which acts in a 48h frame; finally add carbon to remove organic which have bound the copper.

Luca

 

[markalot]

Has anyone ever analyzed sponge power?

I know, and I don't really expect an answer, but I thought I'd ask.

 

[Spslvr]

Has anyone ever analyzed sponge power?

I know, and I don't really expect an answer, but I thought I'd ask.

Ill get right on it:lolspin::lolspin:

 

[Spslvr]

Metal quickly binds to organic compounds.
Chelants have the role to slowly release metals in the free form which is useable to most living organism. Once metals are free, they quickly binds to organic compounds or precipitate together with calcium and becoming unsoluble.
Adding metals without chelants could be dangerous because add an immediate large amount of metal ions which act at full power. Chelants release the free form more slowly. By the wa, it is important to not add excessive doses, because a large dose of chelated product will however lead to a higher release of free ions, that could harm living organism.
Water rich in organic compounds lead to faster metals depletion. Activated carbon use indirectly removes metals because removes organic compounds. That's why to get most of zeospur2 effect it is advised to filter water with GAC, then remove it and add zeospur2 which acts in a 48h frame; finally add carbon to remove organic which have bound the copper.

Luca

That was a great explanation thanks Luca.

Our intention is not to raise metals rather than replenish them basically as an experiment to see if there is any impact on coral color and/or growth..

 

[Moser]

Nice work!

Whats a palintest?

Mo

 

[Spslvr]

Nice work!

Whats a palintest?

Mo

a water analysis unit.

 

[nemodan]

I had the opportunity in 1994 to be some days in Cairns. At that moment I was living in Argentina and travel all the way there. Beautiful place. After reading this thread I would like to ask a simple question.

How do you cover all those tanks during raining days ? You have the rainforest nearby, if I recall correctly and there has to be many raining days. What system do you have to cover the tanks fast ...... ????

It just picked my curiosity to know how you protect your tanks of rain water.

Amazing farm !!!!

 

[Spslvr]

Mods if this post contravien's any rules please feel free to delete the post.

Just wanted to say our efforts have been rewarded with a write up on reef builders today im not sure how to link it, but its pretty easy to find...

 

[markalot]

Nice, eye catching corals, the wholesaler, is just north of me in Ohio. I think it's extremely important that we start using more aqua cultured corals rather than live caught, so hopefully you all can make a big impact on the business.

 

[Spslvr]

Had a nice day fragging third gen frags

This is one of our yellow nasutas that was grown from a 1 inch frag

And some echinata same again grown from 1 inch frags

 

[Eastone]

Did you manage to test sponge power with the palintest? I believe it's mostly silicates.

Would you be willing to discuss in more detail the electrolysis system? I'm really curious about voltages, locations or photos of the system and uptime. Do you think the electrolysis could have an influence on the heavy metal consumption you're seeing?

 

[jedimasterben]

I have come to the conclusion that oxygen depletes potassium which is why I believe high powered skimmers appear to suck potassium out of the water

Nope, it is the zeolith stones you use, they selectively adsorb potassium along with ammonia. Skimmers have nothing to do with it.

 

[Ink]

Jedimasterben, it has been demonstrated zeolith in seawater mainly absorb sodium. They absorb ammonia in freshwater only. NaCl solution is used to regenerate zeolith because Na take the place of absorbed ammonia.
Even on zeovit forum it is stated zeolith don't absorb potassium.

I sincerely have never found yet any clear demonstration about what zeolith can do in seawater.

Luca

 

[sahin]

Nope, it is the zeolith stones you use, they selectively adsorb potassium along with ammonia. Skimmers have nothing to do with it.

Jedimasterben, it has been demonstrated zeolith in seawater mainly absorb sodium. They absorb ammonia in freshwater only. NaCl solution is used to regenerate zeolith because Na take the place of absorbed ammonia.
Even on zeovit forum it is stated zeolith don't absorb potassium.

I sincerely have never found yet any clear demonstration about what zeolith can do in seawater.

Luca

Luca, I tend to agree with Jedi; I've found in my tank, that K levels dropped as soon as whenever I utilised KZ Zeolites...all else remaining the same. I am not sure of the process, but other than the Zeolites harboring bacteria, they could have an affinity for soaking up K.

 

[sahin]

Spslvr: nice acro crabs in those frags. Do you add the acro crabs or do they move into the corals?

 

[jedimasterben]

Jedimasterben, it has been demonstrated zeolith in seawater mainly absorb sodium. They absorb ammonia in freshwater only. NaCl solution is used to regenerate zeolith because Na take the place of absorbed ammonia.
Even on zeovit forum it is stated zeolith don't absorb potassium.

I sincerely have never found yet any clear demonstration about what zeolith can do in seawater.

Luca

Randy Holmes-Farley has mentioned it many times over the years. The zeolite stones used by Zeovit selectively adsorb ammonia and potassium, this is how they achieve ULNS, essentially bypassing a lot of the nitrogen cycle altogether, removing ammonia from the equation so it cannot continue on to nitrate.

 

[Spslvr]

Spslvr: nice acro crabs in those frags. Do you add the acro crabs or do they move into the corals?

the crabs tend to move around, they are all over the place

 

[Spslvr]

Nope, it is the zeolith stones you use, they selectively adsorb potassium along with ammonia. Skimmers have nothing to do with it.

ok that makes sense..

 

[Spslvr]

Did you manage to test sponge power with the palintest? I believe it's mostly silicates.

Would you be willing to discuss in more detail the electrolysis system? I'm really curious about voltages, locations or photos of the system and uptime. Do you think the electrolysis could have an influence on the heavy metal consumption you're seeing?

we don't use sponge power so haven't tested it, as for electro.... we are keeping the set up under wraps so to speak, but if your trialing it send me a pm and ill be happy to guide you...

 

[Ink]

Like here?
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2007-02/rhf/

where Randy-Holmes Farley says this:
Few filter media are capable of binding ammonia from seawater. The zeolite clinoptilolite (a sodium aluminosilicate) is capable of binding ammonia from freshwater, but the sodium ions in seawater displace much of the ammonia. In fact, the ammonia binding capacity of clinoptilolite in freshwater can be regenerated by rinsing it with salty water. Consequently, its capacity to bind ammonia in seawater is very low, if any, so it is not a very useful product for marine systems.

Sahin, I tried it extensively, probably as You. I never found any variation in K level after addition of any zeolite media; korallen-zucht's is the one I tested for several years.
Maybe my seller had a fake KZ zeolite.
Then You're free to believe what You prefere.

Luca