The Life Reef Skimmer Club

[rounder45]

My point is to represent your choice honesty..

 

[rounder45]

Any other skimmer club posts hard facts on how it is better...

 

[d2mini]

My point is to represent your choice honesty..

Any other skimmer club posts hard facts on how it is better...

I think you are missing the point.
We are all very happy with this skimmer's performance after using various other skimmers. There is no need to confirm why it works so well. We don't care why. No one here is trying to sell you a LifeReef. :lol: And the skimmate produced is just one facet.

 

[azjohnny]

how do/have filters impacted your skimmer?

Clugo

I have a FOWLR that produces a lot of detritus so I run a felt filter sock 24/7 so the detritus is easily exported. Running one shouldn't be an issue a skimmer removes dissolved orgainics

 

[rounder45]

I think you are missing the point.
We are all very happy with this skimmer's performance after using various other skimmers. There is no need to confirm why it works so well. We don't care why. No one here is trying to sell you a LifeReef. :lol: And the skimmate produced is just one facet.

My point is of objectivity...seems to me you are happy after previous grossly oversized skimmers....

 

[clugo]

I only have 4 fish in my 120 rimless w another 35 gallon sump and I seem to get lots if brown detritus in my sump but I'd rather not use socks.

 

[azjohnny]

I think you are missing the point.
We are all very happy with this skimmer's performance after using various other skimmers. There is no need to confirm why it works so well. We don't care why. No one here is trying to sell you a LifeReef. And the skimmate produced is just one facet.

+1

I am one of the those that got baited with the hype of higher air numbers and the bigger neck making a better skimmer

Rounder pick up a LR skimmer and see how you like them

 

[azjohnny]

I only have 4 fish in my 120 rimless w another 35 gallon sump and I seem to get lots if brown detritus in my sump but I'd rather not use socks.

I have seen some systems that have a small settling tank with a ball valve connected to their sump which makes it easier to remove detritus with a sockless setup

 

[rounder45]

+1

I am one of the those that got baited with the hype of higher air numbers and the bigger neck making a better skimmer

Rounder pick up a LR skimmer and see how you like them

not spending 600when I already have a properly sized well performing skimmer.... But this is simple .... Compare a pinwheel skimmer properly sized vs a life reef... Can anyone do it...????

 

[clugo]

I hoped that the first section or drain section of my sump would work that way but it still seems to make its way all the way to the last section/return.

 

[d2mini]

My point is of objectivity...seems to me you are happy after previous grossly oversized skimmers....

Yep, one was over sized. Isn't the common advise to go big or go home?
But is an Alpha 250 on a 350g total system volume really THAT oversized?
And again, the amount of skim wasn't my only issue with it.
Others were properly sized.

There's more to skimmer nirvana than just the amount of skim in the cup.

 

[mskvarenina]

Maybe this has been discussed somewhere in the 25 pages of replies but how many of you have upgraded your venturi and did it really make a difference to the foam quality/extraction?

 

[rounder45]

Yep, one was over sized. Isn't the common advise to go big or go home?
But is an Alpha 250 on a 350g total system volume really THAT oversized?
And again, the amount of skim wasn't my only issue with it.
Others were properly sized.

There's more to skimmer nirvana than just the amount of skim in the cup.

nope... It is choose an appropriate skimmer for tank volume and bioload. So, what is your current air draw??? Skimmer size is ultimately air draw. The air is what makes a skimmer work.

 

[rounder45]

Yep, one was over sized. Isn't the common advise to go big or go home?
But is an Alpha 250 on a 350g total system volume really THAT oversized?
And again, the amount of skim wasn't my only issue with it.
Others were properly sized.

There's more to skimmer nirvana than just the amount of skim in the cup.

You tell me.... What is your current air draw compared to said vertex+

 

[rounder45]

Yep, one was over sized. Isn't the common advise to go big or go home?
But is an Alpha 250 on a 350g total system volume really THAT oversized?
And again, the amount of skim wasn't my only issue with it.
Others were properly sized.

There's more to skimmer nirvana than just the amount of skim in the cup.

You tell me.... What us your current air draw compared to said vertex

 

[d2mini]

You tell me.... What us your current air draw compared to said vertex

See previous replies. :facepalm:

 

[d2mini]

Maybe this has been discussed somewhere in the 25 pages of replies but how many of you have upgraded your venturi and did it really make a difference to the foam quality/extraction?

I don't have it, but I haven't seen any evidence that it makes a noticeable difference on his standard skimmers.

 

[rEeFnWrX]

Rounder.... it is simple, we've used pinwheels, you have not used a LR...

There are some pinwheels with similar design to LR but not many... funny thing is most believe those are the top pin wheel skimmers...

Now, having seen improvement in coral growth and color, darker skimmate and a set and forget water height since buying my LR 2 years ago I have no reason to even care to test air draw... so if it is that important, go buy one and test it yourself.

Efficiency is not #1 priority... that's just the typical LED defense story... 5 different LED units and a couple grand in the hole and the trusty good old T5 has me loving this hobby again... health of the tank is #1... not mathematical numbers that people theorize to be important.

 

[rEeFnWrX]

Your skimmer can only produce a foam head and skimmate if the water chemistry allows it.... if you hav3 a skimmer completely oversized it will form a head and produce skimmate for a short period and then go dormant. This is why when putting a mag12 on a svs24" you see foam a lot less frequently compared to when you have a mag9.

Now if your skimmer is constantly skimming and producing skimmate most likely it is undersized and unable to keep up with the bioload....

Water chemistry is key...

 

[rounder45]

Rounder.... it is simple, we've used pinwheels, you have not used a LR...

There are some pinwheels with similar design to LR but not many... funny thing is most believe those are the top pin wheel skimmers...

Now, having seen improvement in coral growth and color, darker skimmate and a set and forget water height since buying my LR 2 years ago I have no reason to even care to test air draw... so if it is that important, go buy one and test it yourself.

Efficiency is not #1 priority... that's just the typical LED defense story... 5 different LED units and a couple grand in the hole and the trusty good old T5 has me loving this hobby again... health of the tank is #1... not mathematical numbers that people theorize to be important.

Well.... You may not understand.... You could be proving the negative of what one may consider " overskimming "... Led has nothing to do with skimmer efficiency.