The official WP40 running on controller thread.
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Special thanks to all the threads here. Took a while to go through them all, but ... here is my Jebao to Apex harness. It runs 1 WP-40 and 1 WP-25 and loving it. Bought the waterproof connector through aliexpress, as mentioned in this thread, and the other parts at various locations.
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gregr
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Finally got two WP40s, did the wiring mod with Reef Angel cables, programmed with some moderate synched wave settings... Wish I'd done this years ago. Every single coral in my tank looks happy after moving a couple Euphyllias because they were getting too much flow. Love it!
Anybody else notice a really nice bump in pH? Mine jumped .1, which was a very nice surprise.
Anybody else notice a really nice bump in pH? Mine jumped .1, which was a very nice surprise.
FrostyChicken
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Here is my ghetto schematic as promised. I have no specifics on wire colors coming from the pump side as I have not hooked up my multimeter to it to find out. I know from the Jebao controller side of the unit, the light blue wire is negative ground (-24v), reddish/orange/brown wire is positive (+24v), and the remaining third wire is the va signal wire to the pump. Simply test the 3 wires with a multimeter and label them before starting any wiring or splices.
I just ordered my WP40 tonight and I can't wait to get it. I swear I'm not trying to beat a dead horse but I want to make sure I understand this all the way. I'd hate to smoke something wiring it up wrong. The way I read this is that one of the resistors attaches to the signal output from the Apex (my controller of choice). The other resistor tees into the 24 VDC - from both the connector to the pump and the DC power adapter. The signal wire from the pump connector is then wired in between the resistors. Did I get that right? Also, how do you make these connections? Soldering or can you use wirenuts or butt connectors?
FrostyChicken
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Additionally how important is it that the signal wire be exactly half way between the two resistors? If I solder the two resistors together in series and then solder the signal wire as close to the middle of them as I can based on eye-balling it is that good enough? Thanks for putting in all of the legwork you guys have. Pure genius and I can't say thank you enough!
Frosty
Please take this as constructive...from the above it seems you have little in the way of electronics experience. I strongly suggest you invest in the Reef Angel cable. It's then a simple matter of making sure the right wires from a Apex cable...joints should be soldered with heat shrink tubing covering the splices. You can find the proper color wires in this thread. Good luck and let us know how it works out.
Rallen
Please take this as constructive...from the above it seems you have little in the way of electronics experience. I strongly suggest you invest in the Reef Angel cable. It's then a simple matter of making sure the right wires from a Apex cable...joints should be soldered with heat shrink tubing covering the splices. You can find the proper color wires in this thread. Good luck and let us know how it works out.
Rallen
FrostyChicken
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RJ
No offense taken, especially since that's a pretty fair assessment. The extent of my soldering experience consists of tinning the ends of cables we used to repeatedly plug into DDC controller networks for air handling equipment. I'll give the Reef Angel cable a try, I'm very familiar with working with CAT 5 and understand how an RJ-45 pins out. If I wanted to try my hand at building my own from scratch could I solder everything together, plug it into my Apex and manually set speeds on the appropriate variable speed output and check it with a multimeter? Running between signal and 24VDC - with the meter should produce the appropriate voltage between 0 and 5 VDC right?
No offense taken, especially since that's a pretty fair assessment. The extent of my soldering experience consists of tinning the ends of cables we used to repeatedly plug into DDC controller networks for air handling equipment. I'll give the Reef Angel cable a try, I'm very familiar with working with CAT 5 and understand how an RJ-45 pins out. If I wanted to try my hand at building my own from scratch could I solder everything together, plug it into my Apex and manually set speeds on the appropriate variable speed output and check it with a multimeter? Running between signal and 24VDC - with the meter should produce the appropriate voltage between 0 and 5 VDC right?
FrostyChicken
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Thanks RJ, you're a God send. Last question.....for the moment anyways. When I splice in the Ethernet cable to the Reef Angel cable how long of an Ethernet cable can I use before I need to start worrying about signal loss? Are we talking about lengths not usually experienced in reef keeping? I'm thinking about future endeavors where I plan to have a 75 gallon tank on the first floor common sumped to my 180 in the basement. Just curious. Thanks!
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate all the info it was a lot of help. Cheers
Bought a hobby box and a blank circut board and made a dual pump to apex cord, works perfectly thanks again.
Also these pumps on a controller are very impressive for what they are cant believe how well they work.
Bought a hobby box and a blank circut board and made a dual pump to apex cord, works perfectly thanks again.
Also these pumps on a controller are very impressive for what they are cant believe how well they work.
I'm traveling right now and don't have access to my manuals. Check your Apex information. Their are limits for TOTAL length of all RJ-45 cables. It's around 200 feet. Think you should be fine. Also DL "The Advanced Users Guide". Think you can find it in the vendors section here or you can find in the Neptune Users site. Sorry I don't have time to post links.
RJ
FrostyChicken
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Thanks again. I know that the IEEE limits the length of a network segment to 100m but I didn't know if that applied to a 0-5 VDC signal. I'll definitely mod the RA cable but I think I really want to eventually try my hand at building one.
just working on the programming now. I am having trouble with a "feed" profile I made that wont come on when the feedA is selected. I want the right pump to come on at 20% and only go to 50% over the 5min feed time here is what I have.
Feed profile
Ramp time (minutes) 5min
Start intensity 20
End intensity 50
Set Wave2
If Time 08:00 to 10:59 Then Wave1
If Time 11:00 to 14:00 Then Wave2
If Time 14:01 to 21:30 Then Wave1
If Time 21:31 to 07:59 Then night1
If Outlet Timer1 = ON Then Surge1
If Outlet Timer2 = ON Then Wave1
If Outlet Timer3 = ON Then Wave2
If FeedA 000 Then Feed
just working on the programming now. I am having trouble with a "feed" profile I made that wont come on when the feedA is selected. I want the right pump to come on at 20% and only go to 50% over the 5min feed time here is what I have.
Feed profile
Ramp time (minutes) 5min
Start intensity 20
End intensity 50
Set Wave2
If Time 08:00 to 10:59 Then Wave1
If Time 11:00 to 14:00 Then Wave2
If Time 14:01 to 21:30 Then Wave1
If Time 21:31 to 07:59 Then night1
If Outlet Timer1 = ON Then Surge1
If Outlet Timer2 = ON Then Wave1
If Outlet Timer3 = ON Then Wave2
If FeedA 000 Then Feed
Got it all sorted out. just had the pumps power bricks plugged into a powerbar that shuts off in feed mode.
FrostyChicken
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Can someone help me understand how the program outputs to the Variable Speed ports on the Apex? I pretty much understand the programming (both Slief's and wfogixxer's) as to how things ramp up and down. What I am confused on is how you know which of the VS ports is being controlled by the programming. In other words if I have 2 WP40s and a cable for each tied back to my Apex how do I know which VS port (and its associated WP40) is being controlled by which program? I know I've hijacked basically all of page 9 but any help would be greatly appreciated.
Do you put the programming under the VS you want to control just like you would any other port?
Thanks!
Do you put the programming under the VS you want to control just like you would any other port?
Thanks!
You put your program under the respectable VSP. Mine is just basic at the moment, this runs profile Wave1 unless it is between 9pm and 8am, then it runs profile WaveSleep2.
Fallback ON
Set Wave1
If Time 21:00 to 08:00 Then WaveSleep2
If FeedA 000 Then OFF
To know which port is which, well you should know if you made it. The pic below shows which pins are controlled by which VSP. Once you know which pins are V1 and V2, then you should know which pump is V1 and V2
iced98lx
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So if I shoot the pump 5v PWM out of something like this:
http://www.adafruit.com/products/815 It'll work fine, without the low pass filter and what nots?
That'd really make my afternoon.
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