Thumbs up for Ozone!

[epicentyr]

I just started with a 300mg/hr Enaly unit I turn it on for about 8 hrs/day. I dont run a dryer or direct carbon. It is injected into my ASM g4 skimmer and now my whole tank room smells like fish $##t. The difference in water clarity the next day was astonishing. I thought it was clear before.

Derek

 

[luvtennis]

Frankly, I can't believe that ozone is not used by ALL marine aquarists. YEs, it can harm your livestock if used improperly, but you would have to really try very hard for that to happen. Use a aquarium grade ozonizer. I use ozone, GAC, change 25% water weekly and have avoided most of the problems described on the forum. Now I just have to get a larger reef tank!

 

[sunglee32]

"Isn't it dangerous for ozone to get into display tank? As I've heard it can kill coral tissue, and damage fishes gills.

Sunglee, how much ozone and in what size tank do you run it?"

i have a 125 g and run 100mg/hr 24/7

 

[foxstop]

I just started with a 300mg/hr Enaly unit I turn it on for about 8 hrs/day. I dont run a dryer or direct carbon. It is injected into my ASM g4 skimmer and now my whole tank room smells like fish $##t. The difference in water clarity the next day was astonishing. I thought it was clear before.

Derek

Are you saying that the ozone you use imparts an odor to the room your tank is in?
Could you elaborate as to why?
My tank is in my living room and I am considering using ozone, but I really don't want to if it's going to make the room smell.

Brian

 

[mhurley]

I run my Aquazone 200 at about 10% now, injected into my big Geo skimmer. Tank is incredibly clear...some troublesome algae just melting away.

I run carbon all the time in a Magnum 350 canister and change 15% of my water every 2 weeks.

 

[mhurley]

I just started with a 300mg/hr Enaly unit I turn it on for about 8 hrs/day. I dont run a dryer or direct carbon. It is injected into my ASM g4 skimmer and now my whole tank room smells like fish $##t. The difference in water clarity the next day was astonishing. I thought it was clear before.

Derek

I would tend to believe this is because of the increased skimmer efficiency...pulling out more crud (to use a technical term).

IMO, you need to be running carbon. With that giant uncontrollable Enaly unit, you need to be a little more cautious.

 

[joelsaxton]

jeez - how do you change your water. 15% of 330g sounds like a pain.

 

[ReeferAl]

How do you guys operate the ozonisater..
Through an extra small skimmer - threw carbon and then like a mad man checking the redox or what?

You can hook it up to your regular skimmer if it is ozone compatible (check with the manufacturer. Some plastics and tubing will deteriorate). You could also hook it to an "ozone reactor" which works kind of like a skimmer where the skimmate isn't collected, but just swirls around. Most do connect it to the skimmer. I use a tee into the skimmer intake with a check-valve on the other branch- that is, air flows either through the ozonizer to the skimmer or straight to the skimmer but not through the ozonizer. The checkflow valve keeps the ozone from flowing back out into the room without going through the skimmer.

The water flowing out of the skimmer should then go through carbon to remove any residual ozone or its by-products so they don't return to the tank. It also is a nice idea to have the air exiting the skimmer pass over some carbon (although I don't and I cannot smell any ozone in the room).

With a 50 mg ozonizer you really can't harm anything as long as you use some carbon on the out-flow.
Allen

 

[ReeferAl]

Sorry I donÃ"šÃ‚´t understand.. beads? baking? ....:mixed:

The Red Sea unit sold in the States has a small cartidge that you fill with dessicant beads (silica gel beads I believe). The air flows through the air dryer and then the ozonizer. Ozone is not very effectively produced unless the air is dry. The beads change color when they absorb moisture. They can then be recharged by heating in the oven.

I have added a canister of Kent "phosphate sponge" (some ceramic granules that also act as a dessicant) to the airline before the silica gel beads. It absorbs moisture very well and can also be recharged in the oven. By having the beads after the Kent "sponge" I can still watch for a color change to know when to recharge, but I don't have to recharge nearly as often.
Allen

 

[mhurley]

jeez - how do you change your water. 15% of 330g sounds like a pain.

Probably closer to 10% actually since I have about 425 gallons of total system water...I have a 50 gallon mixing drum for the RO/DI water to mix up in.

 

[joelsaxton]

but how do you actually do it? Just fill up the reservoir and then manually mix all that salt? And how do you drain out the 50g from the tank itself?

I am thinking about changing the water using only NSW so less heavy metals.

 

[reefkeeper1]

So if I had a 150-gallon tank with an extra 70-gallons in my sump and refugium, I could use this 50 mg/hr ozonizer without needing a redox monitor or fear of killing fish or corals in the tank?

Red Sea Ozonizer

 

[joelsaxton]

I think you'd be fine, but I would be more comfortable with a monitor. Mine is controlled by my aquacontroller which will turn it off if ORP goes over 370 mV. My orp has been steadily rising and is in the 350 range. If ORP goes over 400 you might want to clean the probe to ensure accuracy.

 

[justgettinstarted]

those things do wonders in a tank!!!!

i was using our ozonizer @ work today and caught a wiff when i stuck my head in the hood to check out the reaction. That will knock you on your butt when they are running off a pure 02 tank and full speed. I could still taste it like 45 min later

 

[joelsaxton]

O3 is one of the nastiest oxidizers there is - might be the most.

 

[justgettinstarted]

those things do wonders in a tank!!!!

i was using our ozonizer @ work today and caught a wiff when i stuck my head in the hood to check out the reaction. That will knock you on your butt when they are running off a pure 02 tank and full speed. I could still taste it like 45 min later I guess that the biggest defference would be that the one we use in lab makes 2,500mg/hr @ 1L/min O2

 

[joelsaxton]

does your ozonizer use UV or electric current to generate the O3?

 

[reefkeeper1]

i was using our ozonizer @ work today and caught a wiff when i stuck my head in the hood to check out the reaction. That will knock you on your butt when they are running off a pure 02 tank and full speed. I could still taste it like 45 min later

When I need a quick pick me up in the office, I just walk into the kitchen, put my face in front of the Ionic Air Breeze Quadra, and inhale deeply

 

[epicentyr]

I do run carbon in my tank, but not directly on the output of the skimmer. The carbon is in the next chamber of my sump I think that it probably takes 2 minutes from the output of the skimmer until it pumped out into the main reef. I have about 350 gals total water volume and without an air dryer I estimate the output of my ozonizer at ~150mg/hr. I have heard of people running 150mg/hr 24/7 in tanks with ~200gal volume. I will probably run mine on a timer to come on 3 times/day for 2 hours/time. I dont think that this will be overkill.

Derek

 

[JMAONE]

The Red Sea unit sold in the States has a small cartidge that you fill with dessicant beads (silica gel beads I believe). The air flows through the air dryer and then the ozonizer. Ozone is not very effectively produced unless the air is dry. The beads change color when they absorb moisture. They can then be recharged by heating in the oven.

I have added a canister of Kent "phosphate sponge" (some ceramic granules that also act as a dessicant) to the airline before the silica gel beads. It absorbs moisture very well and can also be recharged in the oven. By having the beads after the Kent "sponge" I can still watch for a color change to know when to recharge, but I don't have to recharge nearly as often.
Allen

Got it! Thanks!