To quarantine or not
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lifeoffaith
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99.9% of people will tell you to quarantine. The other.1% will only tell you not to because the s*** hasn't hit the fan yet for them.
juniorrocketdad
New member
Quarantine if you can it's always better to but if you can't afford to find an lfs you trust and that can show you their qt process and odds are you will be fine, but if you can qt do it but if you're going to qt the wrong way you may cause more damage than you prevent so do your research
Deinonych
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LFS do not quarantine, no matter what they tell you. The very nature of their business model prevents effective quarantine.
ThRoewer
New member
Whatever quarantine process a LFS has (if any) will be insufficient for the aquarist who wants to make sure no diseases get into his tank.
A LFS's objective is a different one than that of a hobbyist.
What the LFS may do (and only the good ones even do this), is to prevent short term losses, not to ensure the fish are actually clean.
A LFS's objective is a different one than that of a hobbyist.
What the LFS may do (and only the good ones even do this), is to prevent short term losses, not to ensure the fish are actually clean.
juniorrocketdad
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This is the problem with reef central people are so close minded when in reality it's just not true, I have seen many lfs who quarantine even if it's observational qt they can easily treat if signs of disease show up, my lfs holds fish for a minimum of 72 days before even bringing them to the store
Deinonych
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It's not closed-mindedness, it's a simple observation. If you trust your LFS to "quarantine" your fish, more power to you. The only person I trust to QT properly is myself, and I have a healthy tank of disease-free fish to enjoy as a result.
CHSUB
"Certified Hobby Expert"
back in the day, i was a LFS employee and i can't fathom how one could qt fish for 72 days???
Pssst, you might need to check your math :strange:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2564297
If you have a quarantine setup and have the time to care for it. Then keep quarantining, that's common sense. But if your going to half a** it then its better not to.
QT FOR SURE...take it from me...
My LFS said that my potters angel was QT'd for 6 weeks, brought him home and in 24 hours he was covered in ICK and now almost every fish in my tank s infected. Ive lost my desjardini and 2 wrasses (timicki and royal pencil) due to the tank being infected.
I am now in the process of removing all my inverts and corals to a holding tank and I am treating my display with hyposalinity. It has been a royal pain in the *** and I have learned my lesson!
I will never introduce another animal t my tank without proper QT!
don't make the same mistake I did.
My LFS said that my potters angel was QT'd for 6 weeks, brought him home and in 24 hours he was covered in ICK and now almost every fish in my tank s infected. Ive lost my desjardini and 2 wrasses (timicki and royal pencil) due to the tank being infected.
I am now in the process of removing all my inverts and corals to a holding tank and I am treating my display with hyposalinity. It has been a royal pain in the *** and I have learned my lesson!
I will never introduce another animal t my tank without proper QT!
don't make the same mistake I did.
Just the price alone to feed those fish for 72 days.... Its impossible to make money at that rate :uhoh2:
ThRoewer
New member
Where does he hold them for 72 days if not in a QT system at the store? At the wholesaler or in the ocean?
Who is observing them, feeding them, treating them if sick while he works at the store? Lastly, who pays for all this?
This sounds pretty fishy to me.
Fish are the livestock most LFS make the least on if you factor in the cost of housing and feeding them and all the losses they inevitably will have.
I would kill for an LFS that had a QT option, where they charge you x amount and QT + treat a fish for you, you then come and pick it up when they're done the QT (obviously you'd pre-pay for the fish and service).
ie: $25-40 extra per fish for a in-house QT would be awesome for lazy people like myself
ie: $25-40 extra per fish for a in-house QT would be awesome for lazy people like myself
I would kill for an LFS that had a QT option, where they charge you x amount and QT + treat a fish for you, you then come and pick it up when they're done the QT (obviously you'd pre-pay for the fish and service).
ie: $25-40 extra per fish for a in-house QT would be awesome for lazy people like myself
I've had this conversation with a couple of LFS owners over the years, and concluded that it just isn't practical:
1. I think it'd be more that $25-40 per fish for a 'proper' QT
2. What would constitute a 'proper' QT?
3. What if the fish dies in the LFS during the QT process; who bears the cost of that?
4. What guarantees would you expect: what if the QT'd fish, upon introduction to your tank, were to develop ich?
LFS are always looking for new revenue streams. That the vast majority do not offer a QT service speaks volumes.
bat21
New member
Yeah, it's just not possible for stores to offer QT. The same reason you don't want to quarantine is what would make it impossible for them. You need a dedicated system for every single fish in quarantine. Let's say you have 20 fish in quarantine. That's 20 tanks, with 20 sets of whatever equipment is used. TTM is obviously out of the question, because then you would need 40 tanks and twice the space. Every fish would be on a different schedule. And let's not forget that ich can actually be transferred from tank to tank in the air.
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