Treating with Vitamin C

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I brought the topic up before about the possible similar affects of soaking food in selcon(which contains 200mg of VC) as appose to adding VC directily to the water but no one seemed to comment. So now that everyones on the same page, does anyone think similar affects on corals can be acheived by using selcon on a daily basis since its being added directly to a food source and allowed to "bond"(on a molecular level) to actual food being administered to the tank?
 
For some reason I can't log in to MD (I have posted there before) & my email isn't even registered there--weird...

I would have likeed to comment on Eric's assumption:
"Vitamin C comes in a lot of different forms. I assume people are adding Vitamin C they get at the store, and not pure ascorbate. Hence, they are probably adding sugars"

Which we all know is not true...

And on this comment:
"Well if the assumption is that it's acting as an antioxidant, it would make the most sense to add it during the day when almost all of the oxidative damage is occurring. When the lights go out, the ROS quickly diffuse away and the tissue becomes hypoxic. The fact that people are adding ascorbate at night and still reporting results is another piece of evidence pointing to the fact that the antioxidant property isn't responsible. "

We all know we have been recomending dosing 2x/day---morning & evening.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13007719#post13007719 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by toaster77
one could imagine if ascorbate was acting to improve photosynthesis or reduce phototoxicity/oxidative stress, then dosing during lights on might be more effective than dosing when lights off. you could imagine this variable is critical as many believe ascorbate has a short half-life in water, so there could be a world of difference depending on when you dose...

just another variable to think about.
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An opposing arguemnt to that is vitamin C breaks down faster when exposed to light, rendering it less effective during lights on.
 
in the Lesser experiment they treated the corals with ascrabte, then placed them in respiration chambers to monitor photosynthetic activity while during irradiation.

In the arctile he said they had to run these for long periods "often starting at 6:30am to 5:30pm. With such a sort treatment time and such a long irradiation time, with positive results might suggest that the protective properties of ascorbate can last up to 11hrs in the coral tissue.

Just a thought.

Cheers,

Josh
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13008736#post13008736 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LexSkizzle
I brought the topic up before about the possible similar affects of soaking food in selcon(which contains 200mg of VC) as appose to adding VC directily to the water but no one seemed to comment. So now that everyones on the same page, does anyone think similar affects on corals can be acheived by using selcon on a daily basis since its being added directly to a food source and allowed to "bond"(on a molecular level) to actual food being administered to the tank?
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It has been discussed several times, that this is not nearly the enough--or close to the amount we are dosing in our tanks.
 
LexSkizzle - Sorry Lex - I've read every post in this thread and have been following it closely over a month... I forgot you asked the same question.

Hyper-fortifying coral food with VC is the question on the table. Or the test to run. It still takes 2 identical animals with different treatments to achieve a reasonable test. Then repeatable by everyone everywhere many times before scientific law.

We're a long way from that here. But its rolling... :)
Great thread.
 
Many corals do not eat much food (like zoanthids), so adding VC to their food won't help them. Certainly didn't help mine any...
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13015246#post13015246 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pufferpunk
Many corals do not eat much food (like zoanthids), so adding VC to their food won't help them. Certainly didn't help mine any...
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There are plenty of zoanthids that exhibit prey capture, so testing if vitamin C added to their diet did anything would be fairly easy. Plus, if the zoanthids you're speaking of don't exhibit prey capture or take in food from the water "food" what makes you think they're are even capable of taking in vitamin C?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13016679#post13016679 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pufferpunk
I have seen many of my palys eating meaty foods but never my zoanthids. Eating & drinking are 2 different things.
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"Palys" are zoanthids... Whether that be true Palythoa, Protopalythoa, or Zoanthus sp. that are repeatedly called palys in the hobby.
 
Just not time to read the hundreds posts here. I droped a half pill of VC after I read the first page of the artical.....the ph and alk dropped down in my 30G tank. What should I use to bring it back? Rand's two part will be good to choose? but the original artical says the baking soda which is the Rand's receipe has not carbonates, bicarbonates and borates. What you guys use to bring the PH and ALk back up?
 
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