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Might work then. 
Treating with Vitamin C
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Kurt03
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Is the huge ORP hit a concern? Immediately after dosing my orp drops like a rock. It comes back up before the next dose but its really messing up my graphs 
Is there any way to minimize this? Or after a while does it not effect orp as much?
Is anyone dosing vitamin c with VSV? Ive been dosing vsv and dont really want to stop but dont want to add to much carbon source.
Also how much would you recommend in 180gal total volume. Medication dose and also maintenance dose.
Thanks
Is there any way to minimize this? Or after a while does it not effect orp as much?Is anyone dosing vitamin c with VSV? Ive been dosing vsv and dont really want to stop but dont want to add to much carbon source.
Also how much would you recommend in 180gal total volume. Medication dose and also maintenance dose.
Thanks
Kurt03
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mixture of vodka, sugar and vinegar.
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14528092#post14528092 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kurt03
Is the huge ORP hit a concern? Immediately after dosing my orp drops like a rock. It comes back up before the next dose but its really messing up my graphs
Is anyone dosing vitamin c with VSV? Ive been dosing vsv and dont really want to stop but dont want to add to much carbon source.
Also how much would you recommend in 180gal total volume. Medication dose and also maintenance dose.
Thanks
I'm using something along VSV currently while dosing VC. What I've found is small amounts of VC work well. I noticed a difference in softies at around 0.10ppm VC but now dose at 1ppm as it is easier to measure. I don't have a treatment dose worked out and it seems that it would need to be higher than 1ppm to potentially be beneficial.
The ORP will continue to drop and I don't think it will get better. I wouldn't worry about it though.
hi all,
i recently got hold of magnesium ascorbate powder in my country and i have been dosing it for about 2 weeks now...
it seems like my zoas' skirts have all become really short and there has been quite abit of algae bloom... i think i might have to stop the experiment for a few weeks first before trying again...
my tank is 1/2 zoas 1/2 clams.. not many other lps in the system and i haven't done much changes to my dosing regime (mainly just biodigest, bioptim and kalk topup) coloration wise, they all look quite the same actually...
the nutrition table on the bottle of magnesium ascorbate states the following
amount per serving (1 teaspoon)
vitamin c as ascorbic acid 2135mg
calcium as calcium carbonate 405mg
magnesium as magnesium carbonate 215mg
potassium as potassium carbonate 90mg
other ingredients cellulose
here are the pics
what i was trying to cure
some zoas before
same zoas after vit c
i must confess though that i haven't been testing my water parameters much recently but none of the other lps that i have seem to have any problem... the clams are all happy as well..
i recently got hold of magnesium ascorbate powder in my country and i have been dosing it for about 2 weeks now...
it seems like my zoas' skirts have all become really short and there has been quite abit of algae bloom... i think i might have to stop the experiment for a few weeks first before trying again...
my tank is 1/2 zoas 1/2 clams.. not many other lps in the system and i haven't done much changes to my dosing regime (mainly just biodigest, bioptim and kalk topup) coloration wise, they all look quite the same actually...
the nutrition table on the bottle of magnesium ascorbate states the following
amount per serving (1 teaspoon)
vitamin c as ascorbic acid 2135mg
calcium as calcium carbonate 405mg
magnesium as magnesium carbonate 215mg
potassium as potassium carbonate 90mg
other ingredients cellulose
here are the pics
what i was trying to cure
some zoas before
same zoas after vit c
i must confess though that i haven't been testing my water parameters much recently but none of the other lps that i have seem to have any problem... the clams are all happy as well..
jackblack559
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i have a biocube 29..how much should I start off with? Just want to dose for improvement
Pufferpunk
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Dosing Vitamin C Chart
Here you go:
Use this product:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=-7152293197697039798
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (good for first purchase).
To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.
Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.
You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc.
Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC
After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day.
Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I check the VC thread daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.
Be sure to take some "before" pics!
Here you go:
Use this product:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=-7152293197697039798
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (good for first purchase).
To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.
Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.
You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc.
Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC
After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day.
Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I check the VC thread daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.
Be sure to take some "before" pics!
Yes, there are some drawbacks on dosing any sort of organic molecule. Vodka dosing can result in a quick growth of bacteria that becomes visible in the water column. This may cause O2 depletion and can harm fish and corals. Sadly, it happens and as of yet there is no straightforward reason.
sabazerehi
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how long does vc stay "fresh" for? i know it absorbs water easily so it's important to keep it sealed well. i just want to make sure that i'm not using bad vc even though the bottle is only a few months old.
Pufferpunk
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Check the expiration date on the bottle. Mine says: 8/11. Keep it in the fridge.
sabazerehi
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mine is 8/11 as well, but i thought that only applied if the bottle wasn't opened.
Pufferpunk
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14530905#post14530905 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by markietan
hi all,
i recently got hold of magnesium ascorbate powder in my country and i have been dosing it for about 2 weeks now...
it seems like my zoas' skirts have all become really short and there has been quite abit of algae bloom... i think i might have to stop the experiment for a few weeks first before trying again...
my tank is 1/2 zoas 1/2 clams.. not many other lps in the system and i haven't done much changes to my dosing regime (mainly just biodigest, bioptim and kalk topup) coloration wise, they all look quite the same actually...
the nutrition table on the bottle of magnesium ascorbate states the following
amount per serving (1 teaspoon)
vitamin c as ascorbic acid 2135mg
calcium as calcium carbonate 405mg
magnesium as magnesium carbonate 215mg
potassium as potassium carbonate 90mg
other ingredients cellulose
here are the pics
what i was trying to cure
some zoas before
same zoas after vit c
i must confess though that i haven't been testing my water parameters much recently but none of the other lps that i have seem to have any problem... the clams are all happy as well..
Are those last pics of zoas that were melting & then treated with VC?
Pufferpunk
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