I agree with Roger that comparing results with skimmate color and volume can be misleading. My main point with this skimmer is that, for me and my system, it is CONSISTENT. I had too many other units that would work well one day and stop the next. My DOC9010 runs like clockwork - the Swiss kind (or is that German?)
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aurorahokie
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I agree 100%!
I'm getting almost identical output every day and I haven't had to clean my glass for 2 days now. I'll be thrilled to get 3 days out of it. I'm still not thrilled about the riser plate construction in the extender kit, but absolutely everything else about this skimmer is excellent! I would definitely make the purchase again. And it's so easy to clean...I hope my current experience continues for years to come!
Chip
I'm getting almost identical output every day and I haven't had to clean my glass for 2 days now. I'll be thrilled to get 3 days out of it. I'm still not thrilled about the riser plate construction in the extender kit, but absolutely everything else about this skimmer is excellent! I would definitely make the purchase again. And it's so easy to clean...I hope my current experience continues for years to come!
Chip
h20cooled
Premium Member
I just got my 9005 skimmer installed on Thursday night and I'm already impressed with the amount of junk its pulling out. Plus it is now dead quiet. They are very impressive skimmers, its already pulled out more junk then my remora aquaC did in the year it was on the tank. There is just no comparison between the two skimmers...
Here are a couple of pictures of mine...
Rich
Before installation
Installed in 10G sump and fits great.
This morning (around 30 hours running)
Here are a couple of pictures of mine...
Rich
Before installation
Installed in 10G sump and fits great.
This morning (around 30 hours running)
Newreeflady
New member
This is too bad. The 9005 was in my price range, but with no sump kit it is not even possible. After adding the sump kit it doesn't seem to be worth it, then you need to upgrade to the 9010 only a few $ more. Then you realize how much you're spending to skim 40 gallons of water and decide it isn't worth it.
Well, this was what happened with my research anyhow. My suggestion, include the sump kit with the 9005. It comes with all of the others, and the lack of it makes the 9005 not worth purchasing.
Best,
-Angela
h20cooled
Premium Member
They are more expensive skimmer then what most people get for smaller tanks, the thing is this. The skimmer is one of the most important pieces of hardware on your reef, my belief is spend the money and get the best skimmer you can afford for your tank. The Tunze 9005 skimmer are rated up to 132G now would I run that skimmer on a 130G tank no but I would run it on something up to 75G. It is a very powerfull skimmer that hasn't been widely used in the US.
Rich
Rich
Newreeflady
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Yes, and it doesn't include the kit to put it in the sump. What a shame, it doesn't make it accessible to those with small reefs with sumps. It assumes that the majority of smaller reef owners are using it for HOT.
You will also notice that to upgrade to the 9010 from the 9005 is about $75, but once you add the sump package that upgrade costs only $30. Yet, the upgrade between the 9010 with the sump package to the 9015 with sump package is $100.
What's the deal? Why do the people wanting the 9005 get the short end of the stick? It almost makes no sense to buy it, why not just buy the 9010. Same footprint, larger collection cup essentially only $30 more.
All i'm saying is that if you're going to make the product, at least make it worth purchasing.
jm2c,
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You will also notice that to upgrade to the 9010 from the 9005 is about $75, but once you add the sump package that upgrade costs only $30. Yet, the upgrade between the 9010 with the sump package to the 9015 with sump package is $100.
What's the deal? Why do the people wanting the 9005 get the short end of the stick? It almost makes no sense to buy it, why not just buy the 9010. Same footprint, larger collection cup essentially only $30 more.
All i'm saying is that if you're going to make the product, at least make it worth purchasing.
jm2c,
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h20cooled
Premium Member
I think in Europe most people don't run sumps, so it wouldn't be as big of a deal over there.
I agree that the 9010 is a better deal, I should have done that but I was worried that I wouldn't be able to get the bigger cup out of them sump area because the door is small...
Rich
I agree that the 9010 is a better deal, I should have done that but I was worried that I wouldn't be able to get the bigger cup out of them sump area because the door is small...
Rich
In Europe in tank filters are very popular. From the stand point of manufacturing it only costs about $10 less to make 9005, maybe $1 less copper in the motor and $9 on the cup. The only way to make it cheaper is not include the hardware. For most small tanks it doesn't make much sense to have a sump over using it in tank. It takes up as much room to add an overflow and return as it does to just put the skimmer in tank. I had the same complaint and I fully acknowledge the math doesn't work if you want to use it in sump but the idea behind this skimmer was to build a skimmer for in tank use that could fit under a canopy due to it's low profile. You should know by now Germans generally don't work backwards from a price point. If you want a cheap skimmer, the 9002 will work as well as any skimmer under $200.
Flatlander
Premium Member
My thoughts exactly. I just took down my 65g MegaFlow and purchased a standard 75g tank,{no overflows}{no sumps}. About to order a new 9010 for that tank. 
Rodger. Being that the skimmer will be in the tank, any problem with fine bubbles in the tank or does the skimmer design take that into consideration?
Their is an adjustment to close off the inlet and this changes the amount of fresh water that is taken in with an adjustment from 80%-5%, when you take in very little new water and mainly recirc the water their are really no bubbles, if you have the intake completely open it is fair to expect some microbubbles, especially when the skimmer is new.
Flatlander
Premium Member
If water is not being processed through the skimmer at maximum capacity, would this not lower the skimmers efficiency?
It does. It has definite pros and cons. The recirc feature means that impurities enter by osmosis and plankton are not removed, however the skimming is passive and not as efficient. For a soft coral tank the passive skimming is best, for SPS, the open loop skimming is best.
Newreeflady
New member
I understand the point. Just curious, though. Wouldn't the 9010 be the same deal from the 9015. I mean, isn't the 9015 just a larger cup, too? In that respect, you would make your money back on the 9005 by selling the 9015
As for having a sump vs not having a sump. I had an all-hang-on equipment 65g tank. I'll never do it again.
Thanks,
Angela
Ive had my Tunze 9010 for a couple of weeks now, I think there may be a problem with the bottom place allowing water out. I have the in-sump connection setup and it sits in my sump.
When it is running I can see micro-bubbles escaping from underneath and the water flow from the return pipe does not appear to be as much as what I have seen from some of this pictures on this thread.
Does anyone have any suggestions or advice ? I have pulled it all apart and put it back together and nothing appears to be broken or out of place. I think it is just the gaps the bottom plate leaves when attatched.
Michael.
When it is running I can see micro-bubbles escaping from underneath and the water flow from the return pipe does not appear to be as much as what I have seen from some of this pictures on this thread.
Does anyone have any suggestions or advice ? I have pulled it all apart and put it back together and nothing appears to be broken or out of place. I think it is just the gaps the bottom plate leaves when attatched.
Michael.
chrissenator
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Most of Europeean aquarists use sump, Tunze is an old company in EU and has served EU aquarists in many years, long time before USA was aware of Tunze. :lol: It is sometime so funny to read some of your posting.
Make sure the bottom plate is engaging in the back and the plate has the suction cups installed and they are resting on a firm surface to press it upwards. Also, be sure the coupler between the intake and the pump has not slipped out of position allowing some bypass.
I would think a few are normal but I can't really see on either of the 2 9010's or the 9020 I have installed if this is the case on mine. The bottom of the sump is obscured by trim and their is too much movement and bubbles from other sources. If it is skimming properly and not making any unusual noise I would at least wait a couple weeks and see if it doesn't improve.
"Yes, and it doesn't include the kit to put it in the sump. What a shame, it doesn't make it accessible to those with small reefs with sumps. It assumes that the majority of smaller reef owners are using it for HOT."
skimmer is intank incase you didnt know ( usualy when people say HOT they think it hangs on the back of the tank)
rvitko
i have my 9010 ( think) in a small sump( to maintain water level so i can use it s a recirc) and i deliver about 10-20 gph to this sump
the skimmer is pulling out the same dark thick foam in the same ammounts as back when i had it in my real sump in the open circut mode >< love this skimmer
skimmer is intank incase you didnt know ( usualy when people say HOT they think it hangs on the back of the tank)
rvitko
i have my 9010 ( think) in a small sump( to maintain water level so i can use it s a recirc) and i deliver about 10-20 gph to this sump
the skimmer is pulling out the same dark thick foam in the same ammounts as back when i had it in my real sump in the open circut mode >< love this skimmer
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